HCG?

  • Riahtherockst...

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    Aug 12, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    HCG VLCD anyone done it? Talk to me people.
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    Aug 13, 2010 12:01 PM GMT
    I don't have to try it to know it's just another weight loss scam.
    There is no such thing as a fitness pill. There is only catchy marketing hype.
    If you want to lose weight, diet and exercise - as a lifestyle - is the only thing that works.
  • Reicher

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    Aug 28, 2010 11:38 AM GMT
    I did this diet and lost 26 pounds, in 3 weeks. I didn't take the pill form I did the injections. Still haven't gained any weight back and it's been 4 months. Probable just as easy to change your eating habits.
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    Aug 28, 2010 12:09 PM GMT
    I can't imagine that stuff is good for your body.
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    Aug 31, 2010 12:11 PM GMT
    HCG will cause a rise in testosterone which will cause a resulting rise in estrogen, which can cause all kinds of problems in men - like growing breasts.
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    Aug 31, 2010 12:28 PM GMT
    You only take HCG for 3 weeks and then hop off it. You won't be on it long enough to hit any estrogen side effects. One of the other posters is right though, most of the VLCD is about being on VERY LOW CALORIES. All the HCG'll do is level you out so you don't feel quite as sluggish and allow your body to maintain a bit more muscle mass than normal.

    Try dieting normally. Carb cycling works better. Same benes of dropping your calories, but you do it progressively and then go back to eating normally so your body can regulate.

    It'll work either way. Just be prepared to be a major bitch. No food = crabby!
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    Aug 31, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    Xian_Buffed saidYou only take HCG for 3 weeks and then hop off it. You won't be on it long enough to hit any estrogen side effects.


    It's not the duration but the amount; it seems to be a lower dose than I am reading that people use for PCT and report gyno symptoms from.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Mar 25, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    Xian_Buffed saidYou only take HCG for 3 weeks and then hop off it. You won't be on it long enough to hit any estrogen side effects. One of the other posters is right though, most of the VLCD is about being on VERY LOW CALORIES. All the HCG'll do is level you out so you don't feel quite as sluggish and allow your body to maintain a bit more muscle mass than normal.

    Try dieting normally. Carb cycling works better. Same benes of dropping your calories, but you do it progressively and then go back to eating normally so your body can regulate.

    It'll work either way. Just be prepared to be a major bitch. No food = crabby!


    man your right..im an evil prick everyday. but 9 lbs in 7 days (by inj)
    damn.
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    Mar 25, 2011 2:34 AM GMT
    Human chorionic gonadotropin is thought to cause cancer in excess amounts.
    Yes, small dosages aids to the pregnancy process. It also can repress the immune system. Did I mention its only found in woman...
    Why the fuck are you eating it.

    Stupid people these days.
    "organizations collect urine from pregnant women to extract hCG for use"
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Mar 25, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    mnboy.. trust me im a medical professional and im solid on what im doing. My partner is a physician also. you think pregnant piss is bad if I told you half the stuff you consume in meds and OTC meds you'd puke.

    it's working and very low doses.
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    Mar 25, 2011 5:14 AM GMT
    mnboy saidHuman chorionic gonadotropin is thought to cause cancer in excess amounts.
    Yes, small dosages aids to the pregnancy process. It also can repress the immune system. Did I mention its only found in woman...
    Why the fuck are you eating it.

    Stupid people these days.
    "organizations collect urine from pregnant women to extract hCG for use"


    HCG is recombinant these days... meaning it is a genetically identical molecule to naturally (endogenously) produced HCG. it is not collected from the urine of pregnant women. it is a 'mimic' of leutinizing hormone (LH) which is produced in the pituitary gland of both genders. in females, a rapid rise in LH promotes ovulation. in males, LH stimulates testicular Leydig cells and results in the production of testosterone.

    if a man is on testosterone supplementation, his testicular Leydig cells will become quiescent as the natural gonadotrophs in the pituitary gland think the testicles are producing too much testosterone (feedback suppression)... the gonadotrophs in the pituitary gland will thus stop producing LH. the use of HCG in males should be limited to 'reawakening' the Leydig cells (as an LH substitute) when testosterone therapy has caused testicular atrophy (Leydig cell 'shutdown'). testicular atrophy can be prevented/minimized/reversed in this way. it will 'restore' testicles to their original (genetically programmed) size, but does not make them bigger than they were in the first place.

    it should be pointed out that some clinicians speculate that Leydig cells may not 'rebound' to their original level of activity if testosterone therapy is used for very long periods of time. and a poster above is correct... once the androgen pathway is primed and 'full', 'extra' testosterone is aromatised to estrogens in various body tissues, causing 'bitch tits' and a host of other feminizing processes.
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    Mar 25, 2011 12:32 PM GMT
    hCG is produced from the syncytiotrophoblast cell layer.
    I have no idea what you are talking about but it is incorrect.
    This chemical is only found in woman. Specifically, during pregnancy.
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    Mar 26, 2011 12:36 PM GMT
    HCG is produced by the placenta during pregnancy.

    HCG is not found normally in males. If HCG is found in a male, it was produced by a malignancy. The most common cancer in males associated with HCG is testicular cancer. Other malignancies like choriocarcinomas, stomach and colon cancer may be associated with HCG production. Oncologists monitor the level of HCG after surgery, radiation or chemo. If the levels remain at 0 for several years the individual has been cured. If HCG is found once again, the malignancy has reoccurred.

    HCG is FDA approved to induce ovulation in infertile females. There are a few other approved but uncommon indications for it's use

    HCG is used by bodybuilders during a steroid cycle to restore the depressed levels of testosterone that result from the anabolic steroids. This of course is not an FDA approved indication.

    HCG can either be obtained from the urine of pregnant women or can be synthetically made by recombinant methods. Pregnyl is one brand of HCG obtained from urine and Ovidrel is one brand of synthetic HCG

    HCG therapy may have side effects and the patient needs monitored for these issues. Females can even develop a life threatening condition called ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) http://www.drugs.com/hcg.html

    The FDA has required labeling and advertising of HCG to state:
    HCG has not been demonstrated to be effective adjunctive therapy in the treatment of obesity. There is no substantial evidence that it increases weight loss beyond that resulting from caloric restriction, that it causes a more attractive or "normal" distribution of fat, or that it decreases the hunger and discomfort associated with calorie-restricted diets.


  • martuco

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    Jun 25, 2011 11:27 PM GMT
    I recently started (five weeks ago) a hormone therapy program. I have low t (169) The doctor i'm seeing but me on 1ml injection a week of testosterome cyp, two hcg injctions of 2.5 per week and anastrozole (.5mg) caps. prior to all of this i was on anti-anxiety pills (for about 10yrs) was losing muscle, had almost zero energy, diabetic and high blood preasure....i'm 48 and felt like i was on my death bed. all i can say is that this therapy has given me back my life. i have energy to workout, focus, self-confidence, no anxiety attacks, glucose is almost normal (without meds). but i do worry about the side effects. i was just wondering if anyone has done this type of therapy?icon_question.gif