My HIV Blood Test...

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    Aug 12, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    ... was negative again yesterday during a routine office check-up. And I told my doctor, most of whose practice is HIV+ men, that I had requested her lab tech include HIV testing for my blood draw done last week.

    Even though my risk for HIV is zero, I want to be able to tell others. like here on RJ, that I am regularly tested, regardless of my risk profile. I volunteer at an HIV/AIDS agency, and I need to be able to honestly tell others that I am tested regularly.

    I asked her, don't many gay men resist getting HIV tested? Oh, yes, she said, it's a big problem. And I replied that if I were to tell guys I don't need to get tested, because I'm at zero-risk, won't they say they're at zero risk, too, even if they're not, and avoid getting tested? Because it's human nature to want to believe everything is OK, and avoid any possibility of bad news. Yes, she said, that is exactly it -- denial.

    So my message today is get yourself tested. Whether you think you are an at-risk guy yourself or not, do it anyway. Do it for yourself, and do it for the example it sets for others in our community.
  • rioriz

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    Aug 12, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
    Just got my blood test last week with a claen bill of health. Its a shame how many dont get tested regularly...
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    Aug 12, 2010 11:15 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Wilton said
    So my message today is get yourself tested. Whether you think you are an at-risk guy yourself or not, do it anyway. Do it for yourself, and do it for the example it sets for others in our community.

    Well, no.

    It costs money, so if you are truly at no risk, you are wasting resources that could be better spent by getting tested anyway.

    False reasoning. Most communities offer free HIV testing, services that are not overloaded. It is very often the OraQuick mouth swab, which is not very expensive, and you get the results under 30 minutes.

    And as my doctor says, a problem is that it is human nature to THINK you aren't at risk, when you in fact never know if you're infected, until you're actually tested. You wanna trust another guy because he THINKS he's clean? Yeah, you go right ahead...

    Now the question I have is, WHY do you oppose HIV testing? I have never, in all my life, encountered a responsible gay man who had a problem with voluntary testing in our community. Can you please expound on your reasoning?

    As for the blood tests I have done on myself, I pay for it out of my own pocket. It costs no one anything. As I wrote above, I do it as an example to others, to encourage HIV testing among the gay community. Now what is wrong with that?
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    Aug 12, 2010 11:49 PM GMT
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    Wilton said
    False reasoning. Most communities offer free HIV testing, services that are not overloaded. It is very often the OraQuick mouth swab, which is not very expensive, and you get the results under 30 minutes.

    Now the question I have is, WHY do you oppose HIV testing? I have never, in all my life, encountered a responsible gay man who had a problem with voluntary testing in our community. Can you please expound on your reasoning?

    It is not free. Someone pays for it, or are you telling us that HIV tests, technicians, and all the required infrastructure grow on trees?

    If you truly are not at risk, as you said, then you are abusing the service by testing anyway. I understand you want to make a point. It is still unethical.

    And I didn't say I opposed HIV testing. You are twisting my words, which is also unethical.

    It IS free, at least at one community center here. Because *I* pay for it, with an annual grant. No tax dollars are spent, no public monies, and certainly nothing out of your own stingy pocket.

    Now you've made me brag, and I should be ashamed. And I'm not the only person who underwrites them. And I & my partner contribute to another HIV/AIDS agency, as well, to support their similar efforts. People who have met us here know this to be true. And our names appear in print, online and elsewhere for these efforts.

    And this happens in communities all across the US, and I dare say in other countries. So don't pull your self-centered Republican economics on me, buddy. Because I put my money where my mouth is, and give back much more than I get.

    And what I give is to the gay community, and especially to those with HIV/AIDS, in money and my services, which has been documented and shown here. Don't you even dare go there, pal. And when you oppose the private funding of HIV testing, through whatever sources, I really wonder what your true motivations here are.
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    Denial for some; unreasonable fear for others.

    I have a friend, 40 years old, who has just gotten tested for the first time.
    He's been afraid of actually hearing the words "You ARE HIV POSITIVE".

    He knew he couldn't handle it. He's prone to depression. And for the past 7 years that I've known him he's pretty much assumed that he probably was positive already, but by not knowing for sure, he could keep himself mentally stronger.

    He's also been pretty self destructive by smoking atleast 2 packs a day and eating total crap for a diet. He works out just enough to maintain his vanity waistline.

    This Monday morning, he got his first test, and only because he wanted to set a good example for his young nephew whom he loves dearly.

    HE WAS NEGATIVE. Now I will be curious if his health habits change for the better. For years he's assumed AIDS would kill him anyway, so why bother with a fitness plan.

    I wonder how many other guys are living in needless fear, and how this background anxiety might be affecting their lives.

    Yeah, I say get tested. You can handle the truth. Another friend of mine tested positive two months ago. He had pneumonia that wouldn't respond to treatment so he finally had an HIV test. He started meds within a week or so of diagnosis and says he feels 'strong' for the first time in years.
  • AlanGZ

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    Aug 13, 2010 2:32 AM GMT
    Yeah same for me, i am getting tested on a regular basis....not because i do not trust guys i dated but because i think it s important to know its status...
  • KepaArg

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    Aug 13, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    I do get tested myself twice a year, just to be sure even though I always have anal sex with a condom. I include Hep C and the other diseases with every test.

    @Wilton: I do have a question since we're on the topic and maybe you might have some knowledge. My friend went and did his test and when he got the results it stated ''Another sample is requested'' and when he went back he was negative. At the time of the first test he had the flu and an ear infection, could this have given him a false positive the first time? If so, how common is this? Thanks icon_smile.gif

    Edit: I'm just curious as to if the body is weaker and fighting an infection could it affect the test.

    Edit 2: In response to Ozmuscles comments to alter my question...I do believe my friend had to wait a window period, but not sure how long. They said the ELISA test didn't produce a negative result, but the Western blot did which is why they asked him to come back at another date. When he did go back (without flu or ear infection) both came back negative.
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    I'm due for my quarterly test, I'll go on Saturday. It's stupid how many people won't take the half hour and get the damn test done.
  • tbeaux

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    Aug 13, 2010 2:38 AM GMT
    I got tested on Wednesday and still waiting for the results! A bit nervous, but everything should be okay.
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    rioriz saidJust got my blood test last week with a claen bill of health. Its a shame how many dont get tested regularly...


    a 'clean bill of health' is not synonymous with 'HIV-negative'... Nor is the reverse true. you may perceive that you need to be HIV-negative to be well, however, I suspect that many of our 1200-1300 patients who are HIV+ are indeed healthier than you. a bit of knowledge and sensitivity go a long way... It's also sexy.
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    collegekid2004 saidI'm due for my quarterly test, I'll go on Saturday. It's stupid how many people won't take the half hour and get the damn test done.


    Good luck!
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    ...you need to be tested twice - with a three month gap I believe - even though the first test maybe negative, it takes a while for the virus, if it is present to, to show...

    If you practice safe sex the risk is low.

    If once in a while you slip up, PEP treatments within 72 hours of the period you had unsafe sex is an option...

    However, the best is prevention - safe sex always icon_smile.gif

    See

    http://www.abc.net.au/health/library/stories/2005/11/17/1831305.htm
  • got2get2it

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    Aug 13, 2010 3:02 AM GMT
    time for my HIV test. thanks for the reminder!
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:36 AM GMT
    Wilton said... was negative again yesterday during a routine office check-up. And I told my doctor, most of whose practice is HIV+ men, that I had requested her lab tech include HIV testing for my blood draw done last week.

    Even though my risk for HIV is zero, I want to be able to tell others. like here on RJ, that I am regularly tested, regardless of my risk profile. I volunteer at an HIV/AIDS agency, and I need to be able to honestly tell others that I am tested regularly.

    I asked her, don't many gay men resist getting HIV tested? Oh, yes, she said, it's a big problem. And I replied that if I were to tell guys I don't need to get tested, because I'm at zero-risk, won't they say they're at zero risk, too, even if they're not, and avoid getting tested? Because it's human nature to want to believe everything is OK, and avoid any possibility of bad news. Yes, she said, that is exactly it -- denial.

    So my message today is get yourself tested. Whether you think you are an at-risk guy yourself or not, do it anyway. Do it for yourself, and do it for the example it sets for others in our community.


    Great message, thanks for posting. More of us in the gay community should get tested for the exact reason you did-to be able to tell others that we are HIV- and to encourage others to get tested. It is SO important, yet so many of us just neglect to get tested because we think we're fine.
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:42 AM GMT
    Sam here. Got the results tuesday. Everything came back negative. When I asked the doctor last week, about getting a panel done, before I knew it, he put the big cotton swab down my throat, gave me the cup to pee in, and sent me to the lab to have the blood drawn. I was in and out within 20 minutes last week.

    He called and left me a voicemail saying everything was negative.

    My insurance pays for the tests.
    That is one $15 copay I will gladly pay each quarter for the knowing.
  • Sparkycat

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    Aug 13, 2010 3:45 AM GMT
    Does anyone know if the oral HIV test is as accurate as the blood test?
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    Sparkycat saidDoes anyone know if the oral HIV test is as accurate as the blood test?


    My doctor tells me that the oral HIV test can be either Negative or inconclusive. People who get inconclusive do other tests that are longer and require blood work, but those too can then show as negative.

    I don't think it can come up as Negative then some tests later actually show Positive. Not that I've heard anyways.

    BTW- good on you WIlton. Glad to see there are people who give. It's a fine message. The Technicians and volunteers at these site do this so they can prevent spread. If everyone just assumed they didn't have it, we would have a fair larger risk.
  • somedaytoo

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    Aug 13, 2010 4:02 AM GMT
    Recently tested and happy with my negative result. Can't you just see the smile on my face.icon_smile.gif
  • MidwesternKid

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    Aug 13, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    I got tested as soon as my ex told me he had unprotected sex with someone else while we were as well. Thankfully I am clean...I can't say the same for my ex. He refuses to get tested.
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    Aug 13, 2010 4:20 AM GMT
    MidwesternKid saidI got tested as soon as my ex told me he had unprotected sex with someone else while we were as well. Thankfully I am clean...I can't say the same for my ex. He refuses to get tested.


    HIV+ people are 'clean'... They just have a virus you apparently don't. The dysphemism 'clean' is offensive. Hopefully you can learn to just say 'HIV-negative' instead.
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    Aug 13, 2010 4:31 AM GMT
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    rioriz saidJust got my blood test last week with a claen bill of health. Its a shame how many dont get tested regularly...


    a 'clean bill of health' is not synonymous with 'HIV-negative'... Nor is the reverse true. you may perceive that you need to be HIV-negative to be well, however, I suspect that many of our 1200-1300 patients who are HIV+ are indeed healthier than you. a bit of knowledge and sensitivity go a long way... It's also sexy.


    No offense bud but I feel you are taking this way out of context. I was just using a common saying. I take personal offense to the sensitivity part since 1.) I am involved as a patient in an ongoing vaccine trial for the HIV virus and 2.) my ex, who i cared for deeply, was HIV+, and I knew beforehand. So I think I am very knowledgeable and sensitive to this issue!
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    Aug 13, 2010 4:42 AM GMT
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    rightasrain said
    rioriz saidJust got my blood test last week with a claen bill of health. Its a shame how many dont get tested regularly...


    a 'clean bill of health' is not synonymous with 'HIV-negative'... Nor is the reverse true. you may perceive that you need to be HIV-negative to be well, however, I suspect that many of our 1200-1300 patients who are HIV+ are indeed healthier than you. a bit of knowledge and sensitivity go a long way... It's also sexy.


    No offense bud but I feel you are taking this way out of context. I was just using a common saying. I take personal offense to the sensitivity part since 1.) I am involved as a patient in an ongoing vaccine trial for the HIV virus and 2.) my ex, who i cared for deeply, was HIV+, and I knew beforehand. So I think I am very knowledgeable and sensitive to this issue!


    good for you... And thanks for your contribution to science. While I applaud your efforts, I think your previous comment contributes to continued misperceptions about HIV and the ability to remain well with the virus. I've been advocating on behalf of and treating HIV+ patients for 25 years, and will continue to challenge people to set examples... As you are doing.
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    Aug 13, 2010 5:13 AM GMT
    Just tested yesterday actually and it was so quick and painless. Got my HIV results in 10min and was on my way. Thank you for starting this thread and I hope everyone gets to see this and decides to do the right thing for themselves and their partner/future partners. Even if we only get one guy to get tested its well worth it.

    Love you RJ
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    Aug 13, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    rioriz said. I was just using a common saying.
    Is that kinda like using the "n" word? Just sayin....................
    rioriz saidI take personal offense to the sensitivity part since 1.) I am involved as a patient in an ongoing vaccine trial for the HIV virus and 2.) my ex, who i cared for deeply, was HIV+, and I knew beforehand. So I think I am very knowledgeable and sensitive to this issue!
  • DrewT

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    Aug 13, 2010 5:35 AM GMT
    If I were having sex, I'd get tested. Even so, I did get tested last year, and of course it came back negative.