Glenn Beck: Gay Marriage No Threat To Me, Or America

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    Aug 13, 2010 4:29 AM GMT
    http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/glenn-beck-gay-marriage-no-threat-to-me-or-america/

    Glenn Beck: "I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

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    Aug 13, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    Yup, there's no question that more and more people on the right are realizing that this is no longer a winning issue for them.
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    Aug 13, 2010 4:55 AM GMT





    ""I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

    ....so he says today. I wonder what he'd say if gay marriage is struck down again?


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    Aug 13, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    meninlove said




    ""I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

    ....so he says today. I wonder what he'd say if gay marriage is struck down again?





    Nice vids.
    Which prove we're seeing a classic case of Republican flip-flopping from Mr. Beck.

    And for Beck to think he shares anything in common with Thomas Jefferson is just laugh out loud hilarious.
    What a comedian.
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    Aug 13, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    This explains Mr Wiffle-Waffle a little better. First he says this, then that.

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    Aug 13, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    meninlove said This explains Mr Wiffle-Waffle a little better. First he says this, then that.





    So does this...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100812/pl_yblog_upshot/poll-majority-of-americans-support-gay-marriage

    In fact, it explains why a LOT of Republicans are suddenly losing the hate speech against gays.
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    Aug 13, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    Well, that's a good thing, Rick.

    Republicans are people too, and many have good hearts, but Mr Beck? Srsly? I think he's an opportunist of the worst sort.

    -Doug
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    Aug 13, 2010 10:05 AM GMT





    ""I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

    What a freakin' lying sack of sh*t ........ and I mean that in the Worst way possible icon_confused.gif

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    Aug 13, 2010 10:07 AM GMT
    He is a pig.
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    Aug 13, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHahahaha..... there you all go again going berserk just over the mention of Glenn Beck..... It's frightening how undeveloped and prone to knee-jerk reactions your little brains are... hahahahahaha



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    Aug 13, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    the only thing g.beck et al. believe in is "show me the money". he and his ilk have found that they were increasingly isolating themselves as their hysterics became more obviously irrational and fabricated. so now, he, and his crowd are trying to worm their way back by seemingly, and that is the key word, seemingly, being a voice of reason and compassion. one need only review his rantings of the past to reveal his duplicity, and pandering nature...
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/glenn-beck-gay-marriage-no-threat-to-me-or-america/

    Glenn Beck: "I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

    That is all.


    as if glenn beck really cares about gays. as soon as the right realizes they're on the wrong side of history they're going to start saying how judge walker was a republican appointee and they in fact are responsible for allowing gay marriage. you can be a conservative and i have no problem with that, but if you're honestly going to play dumb as if beck has never used his vitriol against gays then you're worse than stupid: you're intentionally defending a bigot.
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidhttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/glenn-beck-gay-marriage-no-threat-to-me-or-america/

    Glenn Beck: "I believe — I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?"

    That is all.


    as if glenn beck really cares about gays. as soon as the right realizes they're on the wrong side of history they're going to start saying how judge walker was a republican appointee and they in fact are responsible for allowing gay marriage. you can be a conservative and i have no problem with that, but if you're honestly going to play dumb as if beck has never used his vitriol against gays then you're worse than stupid: you're intentionally defending a bigot.


    Truth!
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
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    as if glenn beck really cares about gays. as soon as the right realizes they're on the wrong side of history they're going to start saying how judge walker was a republican appointee and they in fact are responsible for allowing gay marriage.


    This is true, but it is also true of any career politician or media personality whose whole life is centered on politics (or comments on politics) and being on the "correct" side. That's independent of political or liberal/conservative affiliation.

    Of course, it is REALLY apparently dishonest and insulting when those who favored limiting rights on one group suddenly claim that they support the very rights they originally wanted to deny. But, better late than never. The people on the far right are particularly obvious when they do this because their views usually are to unlimit states' rights but to limit individual rights on the basis of their own religious views.

    I've really been consistent on the fact that I thought that gay marriage was a done deal, eventually. It's just that the arguments of those who want to prevent it are so illogical, mean-spirited and religious-based, that any intelligent, logical person would want to upchuck. They also are very self-righteous (as in the arguments on the stay...in which the pro 8 people said that their arguments in the trial would suffice, even though they just lost that).

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    Aug 13, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    fastprof said
    calibro said
    as if glenn beck really cares about gays. as soon as the right realizes they're on the wrong side of history they're going to start saying how judge walker was a republican appointee and they in fact are responsible for allowing gay marriage.


    This is true, but it is also true of any career politician or media personality whose whole life is centered on politics (or comments on politics) and being on the "correct" side. That's independent of political or liberal/conservative affiliation.

    Of course, it is REALLY apparently dishonest and insulting when those who favored limiting rights on one group suddenly claim that they support the very rights they originally wanted to deny. But, better late than never. The people on the far right are particularly obvious when they do this because their views usually are to unlimit states' rights but to limit individual rights on the basis of their own religious views.

    I've really been consistent on the fact that I thought that gay marriage was a done deal, eventually. It's just that the arguments of those who want to prevent it are so illogical, mean-spirited and religious-based, that any intelligent, logical person would want to upchuck. They also are very self-righteous (as in the arguments on the stay...in which the pro 8 people said that their arguments in the trial would suffice, even though they just lost that).



    oh i agree. i feel obama will also try to take credit for this. neither political party is responsible for the end of this: it will be an independent judiciary, just the way segregation was finally ended.
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    Aug 13, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    today i have just a little more hope in the future of this country and the ability of the system to work.
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    calibro said i feel obama will also try to take credit for this. neither political party is responsible for the end of this: it will be an independent judiciary, just the way segregation was finally ended.


    But that would still be huge. Just as Schwarzenegger putting on his big boy pants and announcing his support, and his recommendation that the stay be lifted was a huge thing in this struggle.

    Remember how the Soviet Union seemingly crumbled overnight? That will happen with the gay marriage issue. Suddenly, resistance will be gone.
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    Aug 13, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Remember that Obama is against gay marriage for "religious" reasons (even though his church supports gay marriage). If this is our friend, I say let's find better friends.


    All the traditionalists in the mainstream religions oppose same sex marriage. It's internally consistent with their views that there should be no sex without procreation (if you follow the logic). Those are their rules, not that many follow them behind closed doors.

    That's why the Prop 8 thing is really a separation of church and state issue too. It's also why apparently rational people who also happen to be religious hold on to this vestige of total illogical thinking....opposing same sex marriage.

    However, as in the case of Schwarzenegger, Obama will come around. Is it hypocritical? Yes. But he will come around. Not true at all of the rabid wing of the Republican party.
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    fastprof said
    Remember how the Soviet Union seemingly crumbled overnight? That will happen with the gay marriage issue. Suddenly, resistance will be gone.

    Ah, you've changed your main profile pic yet again! icon_lol.gif


    Oh good. That irritates you for some reason. I'll have to "change" it more frequently.

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    Aug 13, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
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    fastprof said
    Remember how the Soviet Union seemingly crumbled overnight? That will happen with the gay marriage issue. Suddenly, resistance will be gone.

    Ah, you've changed your main profile pic yet again! icon_lol.gif


    and you make an ad hominem attack yet again icon_rolleyes.gif
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    calibro said
    southbeach1500 said
    fastprof said
    Remember how the Soviet Union seemingly crumbled overnight? That will happen with the gay marriage issue. Suddenly, resistance will be gone.

    Ah, you've changed your main profile pic yet again! icon_lol.gif


    and you make an ad hominem attack yet again icon_rolleyes.gif


    And I think that the new pictures of fastprof and calibro are extra yummy, so maybe SB is just jealous.
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    Aug 13, 2010 5:25 PM GMT
    fastprof said

    That's why the Prop 8 thing is really a separation of church and state issue too.


    it's funny, in one of the clips above, beck talks about how, by legalizing same sex marriages, as opposed to just civil unions, he is lamenting that the government will begin telling churches what to do. first, there is NO legislation that will require churches to marry gay couples if they don't want to...they are merely granting same sec couples the opportunity to do so. finding a church would still be kinda hard to do at this point. southern baptists can still, and forever more, say no to same sex couples if they so desire. the government will never be able to tell them they have to.

    and second, has he even noticed who signs the marriage license in weddings done in churches?? it's the pastor/priest/etc who executes the contract of marriage. the government IS involved in marriage and they stand at the altar right beside the presiding officiant...i'm surprised more divorces don't involve suing the pastor for signing the marriage license.


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    Aug 13, 2010 5:42 PM GMT
    For the record, Churches here in Canada can opt not to perform gay marriage, but some still do. Dunno where he got THAT from. I guess from the same source saying we have scary health care and eat baby seals.
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    Aug 13, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
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    And I think that the new pictures of fastprof and calibro are extra yummy, so maybe SB is just jealous.


    Thank you.

    It's not new, however. I just rotate my pictures just because I get sick of looking at the same view of myself. It's bad enough to look at myself in the mirror in the morning. icon_biggrin.gif

    I don't even consider southbeach's comment an "ad hominem" attack. It's a little like him saying "...I see you've washed your car again..." It's an observation, no more than that. Very obvious way for him to get himself attention by being at the bottom comment on a Forum thread.

    Thank you, Calibro, though.
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    Aug 13, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said He belonged to a church that supports and performs gay marriage. His stance was, to me, the ultimate in gratuitous hypocrisy.


    Oh. In that case, I agree.