On Being a Wrestler

  • wrestlernatl

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    Aug 14, 2010 6:43 AM GMT


    I've been wrestling folk/freestyle since I was a kid. It takes many years to get good at wrestling. At last count I think there were way over 5,000 different moves and that wasn't counting the combinations. Just knowing how the moves are perfomed technically isn't the same as having worked them into your inventory of moves. Practice is essential, and that takes time. Wrestling is the most intellectually technical sport there is, like playing chess only there are more pieces to move, and more ways to move them (and, you don't have to wait your turn).

    Stick with wrestling as long as you can. Just because you are out of school and you aren't on a team anymore is no reason to stop. There are lots of clubs around the country, most likely there is one near you. If not, keep looking for other friends to wrestle, you will find some. Get some tshirts or a baseball cap that say "wrestling" on it if ya have to. If you are really ambitious, you might even start your own wrestling club.

    Wrestling will keep you in great shape as long as you stick with it, better than any other sport. You will get stronger and stay strong. I'm at least as strong now as I've ever been, as far as I can tell, and much stronger than most younger guys my size. Younger guys may have longer endurance, but I can't say that mine has gotten that much less than it has ever been. It's mostly a matter of staying with it.

    I mostly teach other guys how to wrestle these days, and I coach some wrestling camps. It isn't very often that I find a really competitive match. If I do it is usually with another guy who's been wrestling since he was a kid and at least into his 30's if not 40's, and very often quite a bit bigger than me. Younger guys in their 20's usually just don't have that much tecnique. If they wrestled in high school, that usually amounts to about 3 months of wrestling for each year, and most didn't wrestle more than 3. College wrestlers are of a different magnitude, and then again are those from Iowa or it's competitors. Then those of international competition. It takes years.

    If you do know how to wrestle, don't just stick with it for your own sake, but get out there and teach others. Help some other wrestlers with their technical skills. And you'll be surprized at how much that in it self will end up helping your own technique - when you know it good enough to teach it to someone else, then you really have understood it inside and out. That's how I teach the kids (and older guys as well), I watch how they teach it to one another, and when they can teach it, I know they have really learned it.

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    Aug 14, 2010 1:48 PM GMT
    Admittedly, I have never considered all of the benefits and details of the sport of wrestling (unless you count bedroom freestyle) but it is possibly the oldest sport. And unlike some sports that are primarily more engaging to play, wrestling has always struck me as a sporting activity where the spectator can take just as much from viewing as participating, appreaciating the athleticism, strength, flexibility, stamina involved. Etc.

    And yes, ok, additionally, it is freaking hot.
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    Aug 14, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
    WRESTLING IS THE KING OF SPORTS AND THE SPORT OF KINGS

    after wrestling, nothing in life is difficult


  • dannyboy1101

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    Aug 14, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
    I would argue that Gymnastics ties for first. The entire body is engaged constantly and though there is a plan to gymnastics versus the improvising of wrestling with another, I do think that gymnasts are among the best athletes. I so wish I had gotten involved in that as a kid.
  • safety43_mma1...

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    Aug 15, 2010 7:50 AM GMT
    Sumarokov saidWRESTLING IS THE KING OF SPORTS AND THE SPORT OF KINGS

    after wrestling, nothing in life is difficult


    wrestling is tuff no doubt about it but football isnt easy either. it is one of the sports that is the sport of kings.
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    Aug 15, 2010 8:50 AM GMT
    By no means easy or "fake"

    I had my foot in the world of pro breifly and I can honestly tell you it's choriographed and worked but the hits are real.

    Very unappreciated these days if you ask me,
    both pro and freestyle.
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    Aug 15, 2010 8:57 AM GMT
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  • wrestlernatl

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    Aug 22, 2010 4:25 AM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidI would argue that Gymnastics ties for first. The entire body is engaged constantly and though there is a plan to gymnastics versus the improvising of wrestling with another, I do think that gymnasts are among the best athletes. I so wish I had gotten involved in that as a kid.


    Wrestling isn't generally about improvising. Well, at first it is, of course. But the more you learn of it, the moves actually become yours when you can perform them without thinking about them, as in gymnastics.

    Or as in music, or any other art which combines use of the mind with use of the body. With practice, there's the effect of "muscle memory" where the muscles automatically know, or "remember" how to do it without you having to think about it. With the effect that your awareness rises above having to think about it - in music, you control the dynamics and feeling in the music being expressed automatically by the muscle memory of the body. In wrestling (also you find this taught in eastern martial arts systems) your awareness rises above having to think about what to move, but being aware chooses the one move most appropriate to the situation (the one move of which you have awareness), and the body automatically performs it.

    In wrestling, if you have to think about what you are going to do next, you will probably be pinned before you have the chance to do it. A great deal of it is rather automatic. There tends to be 'patterns' or 'systems' followed by wrestlers in one general area, which patterns or systems have been used a lot and become somewhat automatic. This is why good wrestling coaches try to get their teams to wrestle teams from other parts of the country, so their wrestlers are exposed to different methods, different moves, and techniques, and their automatic responses are able to handle more new situations.

    In music, if you have to think about what you are playing next, well, it's not gonna be really easy to pull it off right. The answer?

    Practice, practice, practice!
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    Oct 04, 2010 2:22 PM GMT
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:09 AM GMT
    I would disagree with dannyboy. Wrestling is the toughest sport, requiring strength, super endurance, skill, and speed. Spend a few minutes on the mats with a good evenly matches opponent and you will see how athletic a sport it is. I need to mention its hot too!

    Any gynmasts that think they are better athletes than wrestlers...bring it on and lets see!
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:14 AM GMT
    Ive been wrestling 12 years.. I never think when I do it. I just go with it.
    The idea that you have to use preset moves is laughable. I love it when tards try to do a fireman or something like that. I mean you can see their hips and feet move into position.
    If you have been doing it for years and still have to think what move to do when you see an opening.. you are doing it wrong.

    I actually found golf to be difficult than wrestling or mma. :
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
    I've been getting into wresting lately... well, more like realizing my fetish icon_redface.gif

    But I when I get to it, I fight my best - I don't "job" or do it to get horned up or get off. I fight like a real fighter. I'm looking forward to wrestling more - if I had a regular I think this would be a great and fun way to stay in shape.
  • MisterT

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    Jan 15, 2011 6:33 AM GMT
    bcgrapple saidI would disagree with dannyboy. Wrestling is the toughest sport, requiring strength, super endurance, skill, and speed. Spend a few minutes on the mats with a good evenly matches opponent and you will see how athletic a sport it is. I need to mention its hot too!

    Any gynmasts that think they are better athletes than wrestlers...bring it on and lets see!


    If you want to have a gymnast challenge a wrestler at wrestling, I also want to see a wrestler try to compete against a gymnast on a gymnasts turf. Neither one of them are easy, and both take many years to be proficient.

    Can't compare them head to head, while both require strength, they are completely different sports requiring different skills. It would be like comparing a super car to a monster truck in competition. Neither one could compete realistically in the other one's world.

    I admire both sports, and each has it's merits. I have done some grappling myself, and while I enjoy it, it is not my favorite activity to participate in, but I can hold my own if taken to the ground, of course i go mma style, using martial arts and pressure point tactics when fighting, and if it goes to grappling, pressure points are also very handy. I would not do well in greco-roman style wresting.
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    Feb 02, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    Wrestling beats any sport. If you don't believe me, try one chokehold and see for yourself. The only other sport that comes very close is martial arts. Both of these sports require a high tolerance for prolonged pain. I'm not talking about professional wrestling--that kind of "wrestling" denegrates the sport. Nor am I talking about submission/sex wrestling, which also denegrates the sport.
  • MisterT

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    Feb 02, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    Anyone that is passionate about the sport they are in will say it's the best sport. No sport is perfect all the way around, and I've yet to see an athlete proficient in one sport effectively compete again one one another sport. Each sport has it's own advantages and disadvantages.

    The sport i enjoy the most is MMA, I trained for years in TKD(only took it to 2nd dan), with some Hapkido, boxing, and grappling thrown in. I'm now adding other styles, just to be more well rounded. Not saying I will ever try out for UFC, but I do enjoy the sport, and it's a great workout.

    The balance, strength, and coordination found in gymnastics is very admirable though.
  • MagillaNectar

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    Feb 02, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    I started doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a little while back. For those who don't know, it's a form of wrestling but everything this guy said is true. You get into amazing shape as it requires strength and endurance. At the same time though, it's like a game of chess except where the guy you're playing with is trying to choke you. Sometimes I do get distracted by the attractive guys especially when you're that close to them but once you realize they're gonna hurt you if you don't react, you snap out of it pretty quickly. Wrestling/BJJ/ or any martial art where sparing is the main form of training - is in my opinion the most useful sport.

    Edit: I hate porn revolving around wrestling because the guys have no idea how to wrestle and they usually get some body builder too jacked up on steroids that would never be in a real wrestling match.
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    antonomad saidhttp://www.wrestleandfuck.com/indexFZ.php?inc=videos


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    MagillaNectar saidI started doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a little while back. For those who don't know, it's a form of wrestling but everything this guy said is true. You get into amazing shape as it requires strength and endurance. At the same time though, it's like a game of chess except where the guy you're playing with is trying to choke you. Sometimes I do get distracted by the attractive guys especially when you're that close to them but once you realize they're gonna hurt you if you don't react, you snap out of it pretty quickly. Wrestling/BJJ/ or any martial art where sparing is the main form of training - is in my opinion the most useful sport.

    Edit: I hate porn revolving around wrestling because the guys have no idea how to wrestle and they usually get some body builder too jacked up on steroids that would never be in a real wrestling match.



    I would add that in submission grappling/bjj, which is my base. I have never been more in the moment. In eastern spirituality it would be called "mindfulness". My entire awareness is focused on the moment and the connection between mind and body. The only other awareness is of the opponent who is in the same state of mindfulness as you. The chess match of the body/mind is unlike anything I have ever experienced spiritually. The rest of the world and everything in it is gone and the only thing I am aware of is the roll.

    It is also the ultimate workout. More and better than anything at the gym. Resistance and cardio in one. Every possible muscle comes into play. Your head becomes another appendage like and arm or a leg. Why do you think we got such thick necks?

    It is also one of the most intimate and erotic things on earth!! But, of course, that happens after the first few tap outs
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    Mar 05, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills

    ESPN says wrestling is the fifth hardest sport.

    Boxing, apparently, is the first.

    I'm going to take ESPN's assertions over yours.
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    Apr 02, 2012 12:49 PM GMT
    ESPN also ranks Basketball as being a harder sport than Wrestling..........not a chance!
  • Txfighter13

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    Jun 18, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    Why don't we just train? Hard as we can?
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    Jun 18, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    wrestlernatl said
    Wrestling is the most intellectually technical sport there is



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  • Txfighter13

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    Jun 18, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
    Gynastics harder than wrestling. Yeah and my dick doesnt get rock hard around Tom Brady
  • Coachfan

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    Jul 16, 2012 3:00 AM GMT
    wrestlernatl,

    Thanks forthe posting and words of encouragement. Wrestling is a great sport!
  • unicoman1

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    Jul 16, 2012 3:02 AM GMT
    used to have a wrestling league in my area... Unfortunately it folded.. was the most intense non-sexual workout immaginable. The athleticism and tests of strength are unrelated anywhere,.!