Dating the Bible Boy

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    Feb 19, 2008 11:38 PM GMT
    icon_wink.gifI recently met a REALLY cute and REALLY nice guy at a fundraiser. We met up after the function and enjoyed pancakes at iHop.

    During the discussion, he kept bringing up God, Jesus and everything in between. He's openly gay and openly Christian.

    I have NEVER preached or "beat the bible" on anyone on a "first date", but this guy would just not let up. He was inviting me to retreats and local church funtions...I barely met the guy.

    Are all gay Christians preachy or are some of you mellow about the whole thing?

    Should I tell him that topics on religion make me feel uncomfortable?

    Should I just play the role of "interested guy" until I get him in bed?

    Do religious gay boys make good lovers?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Feb 19, 2008 11:50 PM GMT
    I'm a Catholic, and I don't preach to anyone. That's not to say, I never talk about God.

    I think you need to tell him to give it a rest, but in a nice way.

    To answer your third question.........NO. Don't do that to him. Sort the religion thing out with him, and if he is cool with that, then you can go to bed and have fun icon_smile.gif

    I'm sure they make great lovers icon_wink.gif

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    Feb 20, 2008 3:07 AM GMT
    Personally it would be a turn off to me -- I'm over the whole religion thing of any sort; been there done that and not going back.

    But seriously if it makes you uncomfortable tell him, but don't pretend to be interested when you aren't as that's only setting you both up for disappointment.

    Could very well be a good lover, religion probably doesn't mean much as far as that, but you may just have to find outicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 3:37 AM GMT
    Tell him you'll convert if he'll take you to bed and "fill you with the holy spirit" icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 3:42 AM GMT
    Ask him how he reconciles the discrepancies between being gay and being religious. That makes me a little nervous that he can strongly believe in religion when it condemns his sexuality, but he may have a very clever and acceptable solution.
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    Feb 20, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    Constantly rubbing The Word is almost no different than a bunch of gay guys rubbing it into the faces of everyone else every gay pride cycle. I'm a proud Catholic, don't subscribe to being a stereotypical queer of loathing religion (it's the preachers who MIS-interpret the scriptures; not the religion itself, boys), and I rarely, if ever, espouse my personal beliefs when knowing someone.

    But telling him nicely that you would appreciate his toning it down is one way to go without completely shutting him up, especially if you think he's a "REALLY cute and REALLY nice guy." The most he can do afterwards is attempt to make you see why he believes so much in his religion.
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    Feb 20, 2008 3:59 AM GMT
    Run.
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    Feb 20, 2008 5:04 AM GMT
    Run fast.
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    Feb 20, 2008 5:30 AM GMT
    No, really, RUN AWAY!
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    Feb 20, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    run! run away! run fast!

    really.....you are not gonna get around this.....if you want, take on roll in the hay ...and just dump him.
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    Feb 20, 2008 7:18 AM GMT
    Aw, come on, guys! Former could be onto something here. Who knows, the Christian guy could really come around. Let's welcome him into OUR congregation!

    I say, go for it. If Jesus comes between you and your squeeze, find out what Jesus is into.
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    Feb 20, 2008 7:31 AM GMT
    Sorry but you just met someone who you know nothing about and he knows nothing about you. The guy opens up with a religious line and then pushes religion on to you. That's not a good start.

    I wouldn't entertain the thought. Tell him you aren't a religious person or whatever and don't play the "interesting guy" role to his bible talk just to get him in bed. That's lame and what does that really say about you? If you're gonna go that route then maybe it wouldn't hurt if you actually took him up on his offer and attended a church.

    Just a thought.
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    Feb 20, 2008 7:34 AM GMT
    FormerFatso saidDo religious gay boys make good lovers?
    I have heard of sex that was a religious experience, but don't think this is what was meant. You could always give him a try, uh dating .. if you want to get rid of him you could always write a 666 on your forehead or something .. but then you might attract a satanist icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 8:01 AM GMT
    My dad was a Baptist preacher and I was brought up in the church. I am not, however, Christian... I renounced that religion long, long ago...

    When I meet people that start pushing their faith down my throat, I politely but firmly tell them I'm not interested in church or anything connected with it and I'd like it if we could leave Jesus out of our conversation. If they're cool, they'll get the message and won't be offended... otherwise, I walk away. I don't force my spiritual beliefs on others, and I will not have it done to me, no matter how horny I am for his body. Some gay Christians are, however, very cool people who don't feel the need to prostelytize and have lots of other interesting things to talk about.

    Definitely tell him you're not comfortable with that particular subject and you don't care to include it in your conversations. The worst that could happen is he'll start praying for your soul... but you can walk away. Playing the role of "interested guy" just to bed him is not cool. If that's all you want from him, then just tell him you don't care about his faith, you just wanna f*ck... either he will or he won't, but at least you've been honest.

    Some religious boys make good lovers, some don't... just like non-religious boys. Just watch out for us preacher's kids... we're hell on wheels when we wanna be... icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 8:06 AM GMT
    "Was the son of a preacher man" LOL.
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    Feb 20, 2008 8:37 AM GMT
    Meizer79 said"Was the son of a preacher man" LOL.

    Thanks, Meizer... I hear Dusty Springfield in my head now... icon_lol.gif Oh god, did I just tell my age?
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    Feb 20, 2008 8:41 AM GMT
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  • qalbi30

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    Feb 20, 2008 10:57 AM GMT
    Quote Gandhi to him and see how he reacts.

    "I like your Christ but I do not like your Christians,they are not like your Christ" it may give him some food for thought.

    And if you get him to bed be prepared for a soul searching discussion afterwards.

    Good luck.
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    Feb 20, 2008 11:05 AM GMT
    Tell him you're an athiest. ;-)
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    Feb 20, 2008 11:11 AM GMT
    All gay christians are not preachy. I believe in judging a tree by its fruit (no pun intended).

    "Do religious gay BOYS make good lovers?"
    I don't know, ask your local parish priest...(ok that was a joke)

    It would also help if you would specify what you think will happen once you're done pretending to be interested and you've known him (in the biblical sense, of course; we gay christians cannot use dirty wordsicon_biggrin.gif)

    If you're considering a possible relationship that includes more than sex, remember that his religious zeal will always be there.
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    Feb 20, 2008 12:00 PM GMT
    Meizer79Sorry but you just met someone who you know nothing about and he knows nothing about you. The guy opens up with a religious line and then pushes religion on to you. That's not a good start.


    I would say that too.

    FormerFatsoI have NEVER preached or "beat the bible" on anyone on a "first date", but this guy would just not let up. He was inviting me to retreats and local church funtions...I barely met the guy.


    This is what's really scary.

    Personally, even though I'm atheist I wouldn't mind dating a religious guy (of any religion). The debates would be fun in a relationship anyway. But someone who clearly pushes it down on you is BAD NEWS.

    He's probably way more interested in saving your soul than having you as a person in a relationship.

    I also suggest RUN. icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 20, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
    There's a difference between Christians and Catholics or other religions. In my experience, of all my friends, only the Christians randomly bring up anything about God in everyday conversations. Although they both have devout followers, Christians are usually much more "preachy" as they see it as a much higher priority to "spread the good news" than Catholics do as it gives them a much better chance to get into heaven. This is independent of their sexual orientation, but many gay Christians see it as their only means of redemption because they still see themselves as inherently sinful because of their homosexuality. If that is the case, perhaps YOU would be the one doing God's work by helping him to reconcile his conscience. Then again, if he remains stereotypically Christian he might think you're doing the devil's work.
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    Feb 20, 2008 4:08 PM GMT
    My partner is a practicing Catholic, and although he would like me to go to mass with him, he does not press the issue. Strangely enough since I have come out nearly all of my gay friends have been Catholic! I am not sure why though.

    This person that continuously talks about god and going to retreats and church functions sounds like he comes from one of the more conservative Protestant denominations (e.g. Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, Pentecostal). People in these denominations are more likely to take the bible literally and see it as their mission in life to spread "the word". I personally would not feel comfortable dating someone like that being agnostic. Nothing wrong with someone being gay and Christian I just do not want them pressuring me to "convert".
  • jarhead5536

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    Feb 20, 2008 4:19 PM GMT
    Anyone reading my comments here would think that I am very pushy and vocal about my Christianity, but in truth I am not. I only get in your face when I am attacked, and regrettably I get attacked a lot here.

    Most mainline liberal Protestants are very quiet about their faith, considering it a private and personal matter. That's the reason the mainline denominations are shrinking, because we are squeamish about actual evangelism...
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    Feb 20, 2008 5:03 PM GMT
    I always think the best knowledge and wisdom comes from first hand experience. I can't tell you anything about this guy, because I don't know him. Maybe he just talks about his religious views because he's never had anyone talk to him about anything else - maybe he wants that? On the other hand, he could be as bad these other guys fear him to be.

    But, we can't tell, and you can't tell unless you try. If he's good, than you've found something rare in the gay christian flock; and if he's not, than you can just come back and tell us what it was like, and let us learn from your example.

    I personally don't care what someone's denomination is, how devout they are to their religion or spirituality, or lack thereof any; as long as we get along and can agree to either agree to disagree, or share in some shared fundamental beliefs, than it's all good by me.

    It's my belief that people are more than the sum of their parts. And that goes every aspect of someone's life. If I was you, I'd give him a chance, and rate him on what you think is most important overall. But please. Don't let one aspect of his life become too much an issue for the two of you.

    And if you're only doing this to get laid, just say yes to whatever he says... if you have nothing against faking being "born again", than go ahead and abuse that, but make sure to leave when he's still sleeping... it's best that way.