iPhone or Android?

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    Aug 22, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    I recently decided to start saving up toward a new phone, since my BlackBerry is on its last leg. I've always been a fan of the overall design of the iPhone (being a closet Macophile and whatnot), however I've been told by many people that I'd be better off with an Android phone. Now, while my heart's been set on an iPhone for a while, I've also been hearing about a lot of the issues with the iPhone 4.

    Which should I go for? I know either will be a step up from my BlackBerry, but since they cost a crap load of money, I want to make sure I'm betting on the right horse here.
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    Aug 22, 2010 4:24 AM GMT
    pyralis said...I want to make sure I'm betting on the right horse here.

    Well, a lot depends on where you will be riding this horse, and for what purpose. I now have my second iPhone, a new 4 after my 3GS, but I'm no fanatic about any one product. Rather, the product must fit the person and the place.

    The iPhone is more media oriented, the Blackberry more business and e-mail. I don't know the strengths of the Android, except that it tries to emulate the iPhone. I'm retired, so I don't need the e-mail and texting, I prefer having a big screen on which I can show my thousands of photos to my friends in stunning "rectinal display" clarity, for which the iPhone 4 cannot be beat.

    The iPhone also syncs with my iMac flawlessly, and I've used Macs for decades. But maybe you have Windows, which it can also sync to.

    In South Florida the AT&T network is reliable, despite persistent myths you hear about it. Recent industry studies suggest AT&T's wireless weaknesses are history in much of the US. But you are in Alaska, and I don't know where else you may travel, so other carriers may have the edge there.

    These are the variables you must consider: your needs, and your location. Don't be swayed by hype and brand loyalty. I love Apple, have never been let down, but does that mean anything in Fairbanks? Your decision should be tailored to your circumstances.
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    Aug 22, 2010 5:06 AM GMT
    Depends on what you want in a phone. If you care about apps and not so much about making phone calls, then get an iphone. If you actually make phone calls, then get an Android phone.

    Sounds like you really want an iphone. So get an iphone. Or you can either one, and try it out for 30 days. If you don't like it, then return it. All wireless providers have a 30 grace period. Just read the fine print.
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    Aug 22, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    I have had an iPhone 3g and now an iPhone 4. I also have a Nokia E72, and a Samsung Rugby II. For apps and the screen, you can't beat the iPhone. The iPhone is also fine for making and receiving calls.
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    Aug 22, 2010 5:36 AM GMT
    Though, I am an android fan for LIFE, i have to admit that the i(everything) is great. Reason being, there is only ONE device that has the operating system (e.g. ONE iPhone, ONE iPad, ONE iPod, etc), so there is time to adjust and perfect))
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    Aug 22, 2010 5:47 AM GMT
    android for the win . not only easier to multitask on it plus coming out with so many apps and you can mod it . iphone are for basic users
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    Aug 22, 2010 5:48 AM GMT
    newbie2bb saidandroid for the win . not only easier to multitask on it plus coming out with so many apps and you can mod it . iphone are for basic users


    iTards, lol
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:26 AM GMT
    I have an iPhone and am disappointed with it now.
    Apple is way to restrictive on their devices, how you are allowed to browse the web, and what kind of apps you can put on it.
    Android phones are more customizable and open with technology too.
    Who cares about form when you lose function!

    I'm moving to an Android based phone, just haven't decided whether to just end my contract now and pay the early cancel fee or wait for it to expire.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:32 AM GMT
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIFE...

    As soon as I hear the words "fan for LIFE" I consider you've lost the argument, no matter what side you take. It's like Ford vs. Chevy, or one football team vs. another. You've abandoned thinking for team loyalty.

    Now when you can list your objective points, and not talk about being a fan, you might be doing something.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:34 AM GMT
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIF...


    ???
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:38 AM GMT
    GBRelentless said
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIF...


    ???

    Sorry, I hit the Submit somehow while I was still composing. icon_redface.gif
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:41 AM GMT
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIFE, i have to admit that the i(everything) is great. Reason being, there is only ONE device that has the operating system (e.g. ONE iPhone, ONE iPad, ONE iPod, etc), so there is time to adjust and perfect))


    Different versions of the same device types are kind of breaking that up now though like older versions of the iPhone.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:42 AM GMT
    GBRelentless said
    newbie2bb saidandroid for the win . not only easier to multitask on it plus coming out with so many apps and you can mod it . iphone are for basic users


    iTards, lol


    That's the truth icon_sad.gif (I have an iPhone!).
    Apple/Steve Jobs treats it's users like they are idiots that can't think for themselves. It's like they mind over you and so many iOS users just step in line with it. It's so frustrating.
    When I get an Android phone it's going to feel so great.
    Apple has become the bad guys in their own 1984 commercial.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:47 AM GMT
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIFE...

    As soon as I hear the words "fan for LIFE" I consider you've lost the argument, no matter what side you take. It's like Ford vs. Chevy, or one football team vs. another. You've abandoned thinking for team loyalty.

    Now when you can list your objective points, and not talk about being a fan, you might be doing something.


    Ok, maybe I have used the word "Fan" inappropriately, however, coming from a development standpoint, 'Android' is much more user friendly.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:48 AM GMT
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless said
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIF...


    ???

    Sorry, I hit the Submit somehow while I was still composing. icon_redface.gif


    Understandable, It happens to the best of us...
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
    Anto said
    GBRelentless said
    newbie2bb saidandroid for the win . not only easier to multitask on it plus coming out with so many apps and you can mod it . iphone are for basic users


    iTards, lol


    That's the truth icon_sad.gif (I have an iPhone!).
    Apple/Steve Jobs treats it's users like they are idiots that can't think for themselves. It's like they mind over you and so many iOS users just step in line with it. It's so frustrating.
    When I get an Android phone it's going to feel so great.
    Apple has become the bad guys in their own 1984 commercial.


    Now, i really do not have any hostility towards Apple and its products, its more so how the customers are treated (and not realized they are being treated like dummies). Staff and Customers are being brainwashed into thinking Apple products are the best, yet, most customers have no set reason as to WHY they choose the products.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
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    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIFE...

    As soon as I hear the words "fan for LIFE" I consider you've lost the argument, no matter what side you take. It's like Ford vs. Chevy, or one football team vs. another. You've abandoned thinking for team loyalty.

    Now when you can list your objective points, and not talk about being a fan, you might be doing something.


    Ok, maybe I have used the word "Fan" inappropriately, however, coming from a development standpoint, 'Android' is much more user friendly.

    But less integration and consistency with its apps. And we may have different definitions of "user friendly." If you're talking about software developers. perhaps.

    But I am not a developer, I am an end user, I just want the stuff to work. And Apple stuff does, predictably & reliably. Why would I not want that? Why would I prefer the often chaotic software outside the Apple world? Steve Jobs imposes discipline & standards, with the result that I can expect a consistent and recognizable experience, not confusion.
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:56 AM GMT
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    Aug 22, 2010 6:56 AM GMT
    If you want to browse the full internet with your phone go with the Android since it supports Adobe Flash.
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    Aug 22, 2010 7:00 AM GMT
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless said
    Wilton said
    GBRelentless saidThough, I am an android fan for LIFE...

    As soon as I hear the words "fan for LIFE" I consider you've lost the argument, no matter what side you take. It's like Ford vs. Chevy, or one football team vs. another. You've abandoned thinking for team loyalty.

    Now when you can list your objective points, and not talk about being a fan, you might be doing something.


    Ok, maybe I have used the word "Fan" inappropriately, however, coming from a development standpoint, 'Android' is much more user friendly.

    But less integrated and consistent with its apps. And we may have different definitions of "user friendly." If you're talking about software developers. perhaps.

    But I am not a developer, I am an end user, I just want the stuff to work. And Apple stuff does, predictably & reliably. Why would I not want that?


    and i understand that completely, however, would you give up your iPhone to try other devices? How do you know about the predictability and reliability of 'Apple' products unless you try other products. Unless you are mentioning that Apple products are the best products BECAUSE apple says so?

    it is not you, I know plenty of people who use apple products simply because they are APPLE products.
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    Aug 22, 2010 7:54 AM GMT
    But I am not a developer, I am an end user, I just want the stuff to work. And Apple stuff does, predictably & reliably. Why would I not want that?

    It doesn't just work quit like that though. Ever browse the internet on it? You can't view certain types of content on web pages because Apple has decided they don't want you to be able to view such content, like third party plugin technology.
    Do you care about openness? How about censorship? Apple practices this with shifting discretion about what kind of apps and media content can or cannot be allowed in their store or how it must be modified according to Apple's moral compass first, sometimes hypocritically or with double standards.
    You might not care if the apps you have serve you well but what about the principle of it? How can you be supportive of that?
    Some examples:
    Apple App Store Bans Pulitzer-Winning Satirist for Satire

    Apple Censorship: From The 'Kama Sutra' To 'Ulysses,' 9 Books And Book Apps Apple Has Censored Or Rejected

    Apple Rejects Kid-Friendly Programming App

    App Store craziness: banning the word 'Android'

    Apple restriction on how developers can develop for the iPhone banning cross compilers
    Steve Jobs Debates Developers Over Apple's New App Policy
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    Aug 22, 2010 8:40 AM GMT
    GBRelentless saidand i understand that completely, however, would you give up your iPhone to try other devices? How do you know about the predictability and reliability of 'Apple' products unless you try other products.

    And would you do the same, and have you yourself done the same, trying Apple products?

    Prior to the iPhone, I used the Palm as my PDA for about 11 years. I was reluctant to move to a smartphone because they were too large & clumsy.

    But finally I did with the iPhone 3GS last year. I must admit I missed the ability of the Palm to take hand-written notes on the screen with a stylus. But at least the iPhone can take voice dictation, as my more recent Palms could.

    So I have a little experience with other products. And some of my friends have Blackberrys, which I find silly, lumpy things, with tiny screens. Apple is about elegance and integration. My iPhone 4 is a miracle of modern technology, the screen resolution the best on Earth, the thinest phone there is, the available apps numbering over a quarter of a million right now.

    My partner jokes with me that the only thing it can't do is make coffee, but it's a GPS, compass, flashlight, carpenter's level, airline tracker, weather reporter, grocery shopping guide, personal health monitor, and dozens of other things with the apps I have that I use daily.

    We're out driving somewhere, and he wants to grab a bite to eat, and I ask him what kind of food he'd like. I look it up on the iPhone, find a place with good reviews, and I get map directions to there from our current location. It's fucking amazing.

    And we're 2 really old guys, in our 60s & 70s, and we can do this stuff, it's not like hard. We refuse to be left behind by technology, nor intimidated by it. So we have the best, the newest, and we use it every day. He's using Windows 7 on his office computer, and I'm using Mac Snow Leopard at home.

    And I have judged the iPhone 4 to be the most brilliant smartphone on Earth at this moment, You may want to dispute that, but everything I read gives the nod to Apple, or else it's a very close call. depending on what your needs are. Resent Apple all you like, but they are fucking geniuses.
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    Aug 22, 2010 8:57 AM GMT
    Anto saidIt doesn't just work quit [sic] like that though. Ever browse the internet on it? You can't view certain types of content on web pages because Apple has decided they don't want you to be able to view such content, like third party plugin technology.

    No, using the latest Safari browser on my Mac that really doesn't happen. There was a previous time when some sites gave me problems, but I haven't run into any of that lately.

    I think the problem wasn't with Apple, but with Microsoft. Which was compelling everyone to adopt protocols that only complied with Internet Explorer. That's partly how they destroyed Netscape Navigator. Which still survives, I believe, in Chrome.

    In any case, if a site should not allow me to use it fully, because it requires IE exclusively, I pass on it. If they wanna be an MS slave, fine, but I won't play that game. I've yet to find something online I wanted that I couldn't get with the Mac browser Safari.

    It's Microsoft that has tried to shut everyone out. And they can go fuck themselves. If you wanna establish protocols where I can't fully utilize your site unless I'm using IE on Windows, then count me out. The Internet is too big to be attempting that tactic.
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    Aug 23, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    Talking about iPhone/Android though.
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    Aug 23, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    Wilton saidI think the problem wasn't with Apple, but with Microsoft. Which was compelling everyone to adopt protocols that only complied with Internet Explorer. That's partly how they destroyed Netscape Navigator. Which still survives, I believe, in Chrome.

    It survives in Firefox. Both Microsoft and Apple are guilty of forcing users to interact only with their products.

    My iPhone is jailbroken...but I'm considering going to an Android phone just to see what it's all about.