Women's Right To Go Topless

  • metta

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    Aug 23, 2010 5:22 AM GMT
    Women's Right To Go Topless

    http://alturl.com/mgvuv

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-topless-demonstration-20100823,0,893499.story


    I always thought that it was dumb to stop women from going topless. Men have breasts as well. Just seems wrong.


    http://www.gotopless.org
  • beaujangle

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    Aug 23, 2010 12:12 PM GMT
    No, women's breasts are different from men's chest!
  • neosyllogy

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    Aug 23, 2010 12:17 PM GMT
    Good for them.
    It is a ridiculous bit of legally enshrined sexism.
    I'd put pasties on and march with 'em!
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    Aug 23, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    Some thoughts: men did once have to wear tops at public beaches to cover their nipples. And many overweight men do have loose breasts whose shape looks not much different from females. A paradox is that during the same era when men had to wear tops at beaches, they weren't allowed to wear anything at all at many indoor pools during male-only swim periods.

    The Bara Brost women's topless movement in Sweden makes the argument that if women must wear a swim top, so must men, or else both sexes should be able to go equally topless. Bara Brost has had some success in recent years in getting permission for going topless in a few public swimming pools. But not as radical for the Swedes, who often have mixed-sex nudity in saunas, and a good number of nude beaches and lakes.

    Some years ago the wearing of pasties on Florida beaches was a short-lived fad, before towns cracked down. South Beach has a reputation for allowing toplessness, but technically it's illegal. The beach patrol often overlooks it, however, if the woman remains prone on a blanket or lounge chair, even on her back, but will require a top go on if she sits up or walks around the sand.

    Some Key West hotels have permitted their guests to go topless on their property outdoors, while public toplessness on beaches is not strictly legal. But being Key West it sometimes just happens, and the beach patrol often does nothing about it.

    Of course, there's also the officially sanctioned clothing optional beach just a little north of Miami Beach, and many women who want to be legally topless but not fully nude will go there. I always find it amusing to see topless women strolling that beach with their totally naked male companions. Not that I want the women to take their bottoms off, and I'm busy watching the men, anyway. But it does seem a bit incongruous.
  • LJay

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    Aug 23, 2010 1:40 PM GMT
    Why does life have to be so complicated? Why do we have to debate such stuff?

    Let everybody go any whch way they want and get on with the rest of life.
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    Aug 23, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
    Sorry i dont agree women have a right to go topless.Everything is not individual rights..sorry.
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    Aug 23, 2010 2:06 PM GMT
    lol, if you think about it, few women will consider men's nipples a sexual object (in fact I've yet to hear any woman comment excitedly on a man's nipples.)

    A woman's nipples, however, are an endless obsession with straight males.

    As well, a lot of women would scream bloody murder if they were ogled by men whilst topless, citing sexual harrassment.

    lol, what an odd topic.



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    Aug 23, 2010 2:29 PM GMT
    metta8 saidWomen's Right To Go Topless


    I told this story recently in another thread about transexuals. I knew a guy who was going through the process of getting a sex change, and his first step was hormone therapy. His woman's breasts had finally developed, and he was so proud of them.

    So we're sitting together at this gay bar, he dressed as a woman, when he suddenly says to me: "Let me show them to you!" And he unbuttons his blouse and pulls it open, exposing these good-sized tits that would please many woman to have. I was a little shocked, knowing that club was subjected to visits from undercover cops, and nudity was not permitted at any public places in that town.

    "Oh, it's OK," he said with a laugh. "I'm still legally a man, so I can't be arrested." (And which is why I've been using male pronouns for him here. Later he did legally become a woman) Well, even so, it was a little disconcerting to be sitting next to someone who LOOKED and DRESSED as a woman, with bare breasts hanging out that looked for all the world like a woman's.

    He covered up again after a few minutes, I think realizing how silly he looked doing that. But a while later he went around the bar flashing some of the other guys, until the club's owner, tending bar that day, asked him to stop.

    A strange incident, which makes me wonder -- if he wasn't doing anything illegal, then why couldn't a biological woman do the same thing? If he sat next to a woman and they both opened their blouses and their physical appearance looked the same, could one person be illegal and not the other?

    Or would having breasts that looked like a woman's be enough to get him in trouble? What about overweight guys who have breasts as big as a woman's? Is it the KNOWING who's the male and who's the female the issue, and not the actual appearance? But if that's the case, we're back to the same question -- is it really the sight of female flesh that must be kept covered, or the THOUGHT that it's female flesh?
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    Aug 23, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    If women finally get the right to go topless, I want the right to wear tank tops in venues with dress codes, because women already do. icon_wink.gif
  • Vaughn

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    Aug 23, 2010 2:46 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIf women finally get the right to go topless, I want the right to wear tank tops in venues with dress codes, because women already do. icon_wink.gif


    Yes!
  • Vaughn

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    Aug 23, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    meninlove said lol, if you think about it, few women will consider men's nipples a sexual object (in fact I've yet to hear any woman comment excitedly on a man's nipples.)

    A woman's nipples, however, are an endless obsession with straight males.

    As well, a lot of women would scream bloody murder if they were ogled by men whilst topless, citing sexual harrassment.

    lol, what an odd topic.





    I have. If they thing being ogled while topless is a crime then they should wear a top. Everyone just wants to be allowed to objectify themselves equally.
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    Aug 23, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
    Already legal in Portland, Maine icon_razz.gif