Can one remain classy yet still curse like a sailor?

  • Import

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    Aug 24, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    The beautiful art of having a trash mouth.... Is it possible to use words like fuck, shit, cunt, ass, etc in conversation without appearing to look like a low-life?

    Obviously, there's a time and place for curse words, but I find certain people that use them, especially in a professional environment to be utterly trashy. Yet, I often cuss throughout the day just because it is part of my daily vernacular.....Like whilst driving, or talking to friends I'll curse up a storm, but when speaking to people I don't know, I'll hold my tongue.

    What are your views on cursing?
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    Aug 24, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    I feel like given certain circumstances, even the queen would swear.

    I also feel like if you curse in front of your friends they won't find you any less classy, but if you barely know someone and say something like cuntlapper or some other...foul term then it might not go over well. That said I have a foul mouth regardless of who I am with, except at work.... well except when I'm coaching gym or trampoline. Then I curse like you wouldn't believe.
  • commoncoll

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    Aug 24, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
    Say, under erotic conditions, some people like words. Using foul language is Ok there. It just makes it more aberrant, more degenerative, more forbidden.
    But anywhere else, I don't think cursing should be warranted. Your friends don't really care about your classiness. They are probably just as class as you are.
    I, personally, don't curse. Or rather the furthest I go is "bloody", "darn it"/"dang it"
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:11 PM GMT
    The problem is that many americans are so fucking controlled by a conservative religious morality and mentality which condemns them that they can´t hear the word fuck without quivering.

    Also, what is the obsession with "remaining classy". That sounds like Hyacinth Bucket

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDcJyLzgnQ

    Like SouthBeach, Hyacinth rarely uses the public system.
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    Also

    j_squared said if you barely know someone and say something like cuntlapper or some other...foul term then it might not go over well..


    this was epic.
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidAlso, what is the obsession with "remaining classy". That sounds like Hyacinth Bucket


    It's Bouquet.
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    go to NYC

    ton of aboriginal professionals..

    ..like my uncle (from Brooklyn originally) who's always suited for work (lawyer) yet shits out the potty train whenever he opens his mouth.. funniest guy tho

    he bridges financial & construction teams together so his clients (also suited/bespoked) naturally love it as they speak the same way lol
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    heartrobb said
    Lostboy saidAlso, what is the obsession with "remaining classy". That sounds like Hyacinth Bucket


    It's Bouquet.


    "Spell it? Yes, B U C K E T. NO, it´s Bouquet"
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    Aug 24, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    solak saidgo to NYC

    ton of aboriginal professionals..

    ..like my uncle (from Brooklyn originally) who's always suited for work (lawyer) yet shits out the potty train whenever he opens his mouth.. funniest guy tho

    he bridges financial & construction teams together so his clients (also suited/bespoked) naturally love it as they speak the same way lol


    This is what I was going to say - after being in NYC for a long time I started working for the same company in LA and I was constantly getting told that I used too much "salty" language.

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    Aug 24, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    Nothing wrong with cursing. There's a time and a place for it though. However, I generally think it takes greater skill to insult someone without the use of profanity.
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:29 PM GMT
    No, a gentleman never uses vulgar language. And when anyone around me uses such words I scold them, for offending me. Vulgar language coarsens us, and lessens us.

    All my friends will say you will never hear a coarse word pass my lips. I simply cannot say such things, even when I was in the Army. The few times I write it here are for effect, but you won't hear that from me in person.

    And besides, I was US Army, not Navy. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:39 PM GMT
    Import saidCan one remain classy yet still curse like a sailor?
    You bet your goddamn fucking ass I can. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
    Wilton saidNo, a gentleman never uses vulgar language. And when anyone around me uses such words I scold them, for offending me. Vulgar language coarsens us, and lessens us.

    All my friends will tell you never hear a coarse word pass my lips. I simply cannot say such things, even when I was in the Army. The few times I write it here are for effect, but you won't hear that from me in person.

    And besides, I was US Army, not Navy. icon_wink.gif
    I was in the Navy. Now I'm at a job where the owner has SEVERAL magnets stuck around the office, and they all read the same thing: "I don't have a dirty mouth, I just like to say FUCK a lot." icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:43 PM GMT
    "Pardon me, do you have any fucking Grey Poupon?"

    Classy.
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:45 PM GMT
    Sometimes a few choice words slip out but but it's rare. People I think are classy hardly ever curse either.

    But when I hear someone (male or female) cursing a lot and being vulgar I think they are either uneducated or allowing their emotions to replace reasoning, or both. They don't have the intelligence to communicate and express themselves so they curse.

    Intelligence is classy.

    Strange, but cursing to yourself under your breathe is ok I think.icon_confused.gif And if someone was breaking into my house you can bet I would curse.
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    I'M constantly told I say goddamn way too much
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:47 PM GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
    why don't u go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.....ha ha ha
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:56 PM GMT
    josephga saidwhy don't u go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.....ha ha ha
    This is sitting on the boss' desk:
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    Aug 24, 2010 7:59 PM GMT
    KissingPro saidSometimes a few choice words slip out but but it's rare. People I think are classy harsly ever curse either.

    But when I hear someone (male or female) cursing a lot and being vulgar I think they are either uneducated or allowing their emotions to replace reasoning, or both. They can't communicate and express themselves so they curse.

    Intelligence is classy.

    Ah, education, or just class? Class has nothing to do with money, or background, or anything but who you choose to be. Class equals character, in the final analysis.

    My late father had almost no education. Suddenly fatherless at age 8, he had to struggle to survive, his young adulthood spent during the US Great Depression. He never even got to attend high school.

    And in my entire life, I never heard him swear. Nor say a single coarse or vulgar word. Always the gentleman, I could have worse models for a father. Refined & elegant, I learned from him most of what I needed to know about being a man.

    And so vulgar language repulses me, and I snap at those around me who engage in it. "There are children at the next table!" I exclaim, when someone at my own table uses offensive words in public. No excuse for it, and I simply will not accept it.
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    Aug 24, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    For me it isn't a part of my everyday language for a variety of reasons. I do think using words that are perceived to be "cuss" or "foul" words can work to your disadvantage. However if I'm very unhappy at a specific moment, the release of foul language can seem appropriate. I think its all in how it's used.
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    Aug 24, 2010 8:04 PM GMT
    Wilton said
    KissingPro saidSometimes a few choice words slip out but but it's rare. People I think are classy harsly ever curse either.

    But when I hear someone (male or female) cursing a lot and being vulgar I think they are either uneducated or allowing their emotions to replace reasoning, or both. They can't communicate and express themselves so they curse.

    Intelligence is classy.

    Ah, education, or just class? .


    Agreed. I know people with little formal education who have more class in the pinky finger than a Harvard school graduate could ever hope to have in their whole body. I guess I meant "dense" , or lacking manners, or being unintelligent which may or may not have something to do with formal education.
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    Aug 24, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
    Yes!!! Billie Joe from Green Day can rattle off the F-Bombs in general conversation, but it's so casual that it doesn't matter (go to Ireland and house-wives do the same). Lady Gaga, on the other hand SCREAMS the M-F'er, which is so NOT lady-like. I loved her show, but could have done without the swearing. It all depends on how it's done, what what words one uses.
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    Aug 24, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
    i worked on the street for 20 years where 'professional' verbiage was neither used, nor understood. 'excuse me sire might i have a word perhaps' didn't cut 'get ur fukken ass over here before i kick it here' which icon_cool.gifworked everytime. George Carlin had a talent for being able to say 'fuck' and make it sound like a wonderful type of pastry. I like to think i can get by with that. Besides it's how i speak, people don't like it 'pastry' 'em.......
  • Webster666

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    Aug 24, 2010 11:32 PM GMT
    An ex partner and I were driving down the freeway, when another driver did something that my partner (he was driving) didn't like. He screamed, "FUCK YOU !" out the window. I calmly said, "I guess you showed him." After a few beats, what I meant sank in, and he never did it again.

    Regardless of where you work, cussing or swear words are a choice that can become a habit. And, when it becomes a habit, those words will invariably slip out at inopportune times.

    On the other hand, if you're in the habit of using "clean" language, you don't run the risk of embarrassment, and you don't come across as boorish to the very people whom you might want to impress, such as a potential new boyfriend, coworkers, bosses, a job interviewer, etc.

    People who choose to talk "like that" around me, lose a lot of points.