Neighborhood comes together to defend gay couple against religious homophobes!

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    Aug 25, 2010 1:05 AM GMT
    I thought that this was a great video. Basically, members of a church have been coming out for 7 years and harassing a gay couple living on this street. Well this time the neighbors come to the couple's defense and bitch slap these haters off the street (not literally lol).

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    Aug 25, 2010 1:17 AM GMT
    Awesome .......
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:23 AM GMT
    That's the kind of neighborhood I want to live in. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:25 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThat's the kind of neighborhood I want to live in. icon_biggrin.gif



    I know that's exactly what I was thinking! I think that these kind of reactions to blatant homophobia will become more and more common as time goes on.
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:26 AM GMT
    Awesome indeed, stand up to the bigots and hypocrites.

    WyoLifter said I think that these kind of reactions to blatant homophobia will become more and more common as time goes on.


    Agreed. It's already common in some neighborhoods.
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:32 AM GMT
    So where is this, and when? Sure to cause distress with the right-wingers here.
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:35 AM GMT
    Wilton saidSo where is this, and when? Sure to cause distress with the right-wingers here.


    I believe in Canada somewhere, but as for when I don't know. The video was added on Aug 22 but who knows when it was actually taken.
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    Aug 25, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    Wilton saidSo where is this, and when? Sure to cause distress with the right-wingers here.


    Why would it cause distress? That's awesome that the neighborhood would do this! What is with you trying to twist what it means to be rightwing. One does not have to be religious to be rightwing.
  • allatonce

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    Aug 25, 2010 1:38 AM GMT
    This happened up here in Toronto. Proud to be Canadian sometimes!
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:23 AM GMT
    This is why I love Canadians and this country. I love how they even argue politely..lol.
    I think this is in Toronto. Something like this would never happen in Montreal. Many people here hate religion with a passion..haha.
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    Warms the heart
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:54 AM GMT
    wow!! i'm Catholic and I always question why religious homophobes would even think about doing that. What happened to "love your neighbors, love your enemies." it's about love. God made man, and man are his creations. Apparently they don't appreciate God often, cuz they question his creations.
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    If it is in Canada, the religious bullies are not fully aware of the language or the meaning of the the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

    It states...

    "2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
    (a) freedom of conscience and religion;
    (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
    (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
    (d) freedom of association."

    But nowhere does it does actually say "freedom of speech". That is a term from the Constitution of the United States.

    And while they have their freedoms of opinions, expression, conscience, etc, so too does everyone else. Including homosexuals and their neighbours.

    Because in Canada...

    "7. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice."

    And if you use your rights to trample the rights of others, you clearly don't respect rights and perhaps don't deserve them.
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    Aug 25, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
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    Wilton saidSo where is this, and when? Sure to cause distress with the right-wingers here.


    Why would it cause distress? That's awesome that the neighborhood would do this! What is with you trying to twist what it means to be rightwing. One does not have to be religious to be rightwing.

    Fair enough. I withdraw my remark and apologize, if it offended you, and misrepresented views you hold.
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    Aug 25, 2010 8:40 AM GMT
    "Your not welcome here"


    I loved that.
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    Aug 25, 2010 3:24 PM GMT
    " Section 319(1): Public Incitement of Hatred

    The crime of "publicly inciting hatred" has four main elements. To contravene the Code, a person must:

    * communicate statements,
    * in a public place,
    * incite hatred against an identifiable group,
    * in such a way that there will likely be a breach of the peace.

    Under section 319, "communicating" includes communicating by telephone, broadcasting or other audible or visible means; a "public place" is one to which the public has access by right or invitation, express or implied; and "statements" means words (spoken, written or recorded), gestures, and signs or other visible representations.

    All the above elements must be proven for a court to find an accused guilty of either:

    * an indictable offence, for which the punishment is imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
    * an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    Section 319(2) defines the additional offence of communicating statements, other than in private conversation, that wilfully promote hatred against an identifiable group."
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    Aug 25, 2010 3:29 PM GMT
    Cool. I knew it looked familiar. Not sure where the street is. I loved how they all turned back with their tails between their legs.

    Personally, I would have taken the lady's church hat and worked it. Wonder if she would have burned it afterwards.
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    Aug 25, 2010 3:33 PM GMT
    LOL, and now the big media has it...


    http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100824/church-conflict-100824/20100824?hub=Toronto

    "ctvtoronto.ca

    Tensions have erupted between residents of an east-Toronto neighbourhood and a church group accused of preaching hate outside the home of a local same-sex couple.

    Over the weekend about a dozen parishioners were confronted by about 10 residents of the street.

    Local resident Geoff Skelding captured the moment on video and posted it to YouTube -- allegedly after the group prayed outside the home of the gay couple and condemned them as sinners.

    "We have a right to call the police," says one of the residents in the video. "We don't want your kind of people on the street, you're hateful people, that's what you are, you're hateful."

    The confrontation took place in the Leslieville neighbourhood near Dundas Street East and Greenwood Avenue. It's the same community where the church, Highfield Road Gospel Hall, is located.

    The video shows only the confrontation and not the alleged actions that led up to it. In it the parishioners, wearing suits and dresses and carrying Bibles, defend their right to express their beliefs.

    "Freedom of speech," says one woman. "If you don't want to hear, go in your house, close the door."

    "We have the authority to preach the gospel," says another man. He adds: "We've been doing this for 70 years."

    One of the residents quickly responds: "And we've hated it for the whole time! Because we'll have a nice night and there will be people yelling."

    Two of the parishioners appear to act as spokespeople for the group, while the others stand on the sidewalk watching the debate.

    Eventually the church group leaves, sent on their way with a chorus of parting shots from residents:

    "We don't go to your house and tell you what to believe," says one.

    Another shouts: "You don't know what love means."

    Another yells: "Stay the hell out of my neighbourhood."

    "You are not welcome," says another.

    In the description of the video he posted to YouTube, Skelding said the parishioners have been active in the area for years.

    "Apparently they have been grouping in front of a couple's house and reading their bible loudly for the past 7 years," he wrote.

    "They may have also driven another couple from the area as well by doing the same thing. Tonight most of our neighbours came out and were successful in getting them to leave. The people who go to that church don't even live in our area!"

    Attempts by CTV News to contact representatives of Highfield Road Gospel Hall on Tuesday were unsuccessful."


    ...it makes me wonder why they haven't been targeting the over weight (gluttony) or singles clubs (lust), the casinos or the luxurious hotels (greed avarice) , etc as many of those faiths consider all sins equal. (interestingly homosexuality is not one of the seven deadly sins)

    -Doug
  • Laurence

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    Aug 25, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    The gay couple involved are very tolerant. Seven years of putting up with homophobia on their door-step is a long time.

    I would've been watering my garden (and the street) with a hose-pipe long before now.

    Why do people use religion as a reason to spout hateful views?

    Lozx
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
    what took the neighbours SEVEN years to react in defense of their community? That's the question that boggles me.
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    Sam52 saidwhat took the neighbours SEVEN years to react in defense of their community? That's the question that boggles me.

    Good question, Sam. But do we know what form of previous gay hostility this had been over the years? Perhaps this was one of the first times this group had actually attempted to picket their home in person, to which the neighbors responded.

    Maybe this group had previously preached against them in their own church, or sent out letters to the neighbors, and made harassing calls & visits to the gay couple. Do we know if this group has been picketing in the street out front for 7 years, before the neighbors finally responded?
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 25, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    There was another thread on this over the last couple of days provided by Metta8... in the Greenwood & Dundas neighborhood of Toronto (I've been there). Too bad it took so long, but glad the neighbors stood up for one of their own.
  • solak

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    Aug 25, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    please tell the Congregation to come to NYC to spread their word to the 'troubled,' particularly on 18th and 9th Ave.

    that would be a fun video. icon_cool.gif

    $50 bucks says he's banging the pastor.
  • truetub

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    Aug 25, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    that IS the neighbourhood I live in [a few streets removed], and I'll admit I felt great about living in Toronto that people, who are usually reserved about speaking up, felt strongly enough to take a public stand.
  • Moonraker

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    Aug 25, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
    I feel like I should take this time to do some apologetics. Not all Christians are like that, they are loud, but they hold the minority view. Please don't think all hold those views. When did Christ ever stand outside someone's house and yell? Never, he always was eating with them, getting to know them, and not judging them.
    I feel so bad that those people went through 7 years of that.
    That is a terrible way to represent the Church, and Christians. So sorry.