The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move

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    Aug 25, 2010 12:19 PM GMT
    Article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201315000

    Just to briefly sum up the article, the US 9th Circuit of Appeals ruled it is perfectly legal for the gov't to come on your property and plant a GPS device on your personal vehicle to track your every move w/o a warrant.

    I mean I maybe tired from a pretty restless night but this just screams a loss of personal freedoms. Is this something I'm just now noticing or has this been in a long time coming? I've never read George Orwell book about the futuristic police state but it seems to be approaching faster and faster.

    What are other signs that this 'police-state' idea is becoming more reality than fiction?

    Thanks guys
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    Aug 25, 2010 12:27 PM GMT
    If the government tracks my car down, they're going to find I'm guilty of driving to:

    LA Fitness
    Starbucks
    Wells Fargo
    Ralphs
    Pavilions

    I'm in so much fucking trouble man!

    This does suck though.
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    Aug 25, 2010 12:46 PM GMT
    I just don't like the idea that unless you've installed a fence around your property your car is far game to tracking. This was stated in the article.

    One of the judges Alex Kozinski made a point to mention if you do not protect your property with a fence or place your car in a garage then your car is far game as anyone with feet can walk up to it. While that maybe true and seems to fair (to an extent) the US gov't placing a bug on a car to track movement w/o a warrant is criminal.

    It reminds me of old Soprano episodes where the FBI bugged Tony Sopranos home w/o him being there. So now all the gov't needs is speculation they can bug your car. Things seem to be getting out of control, or at least now I'm more aware of it.
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    Aug 26, 2010 12:18 AM GMT
    It would appear that you conveniently left out a very important part of this incident.

    The man who government officials wanted to track was suspected of being a drug dealer. And, indeed, he was. He pleaded guilty.

    Never the less, coming onto the man's private property, for the express purpose of attaching a GPS device to his vehicle, appears to be a clear invasion of the man's privacy.

    Incidentally, I wish our government would spend my tax dollars on a long list of crimes that are far more threatening than marijuana cultivation and use.

    And, government invasion of citizens' privacy is nothing new.
    During the George W. Bush presidency, the Republicans were intercepting our telephone calls and our internet use, and using the results any way they wanted, without a warrant.
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    Aug 26, 2010 12:45 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidWhen the government can force citizens to purchase a good or service from a private entity or be subject to punishment (in the form of a fine, tax or prison time), that is a government that is out of control.

    I am talking about the new Healthcare Law for those of you who haven't follwed my prior posts on this.

    Now... the government can not only plant a GPS device on your vehicle and track your every move, but they can also, if they choose, force you to purchase that GPS device. The precedent has been set thanks to the new Healthcare law.

    But... it's all for the good of society. Just remember that. icon_wink.gif


    How is the new healthcare law directly correlated to planting a GPS device in your care? With your logic, the precedent has been set thanks to the fact that the government also makes you pay taxes for roads, schools, libraries, etc.

    I know you're trying to be serious here, but you made an illusory correlation between the two subjects.
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    Aug 26, 2010 1:08 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    JB82 saidHow is the new healthcare law directly correlated to planting a GPS device in your care? With your logic, the precedent has been set thanks to the fact that the government also makes you pay taxes for roads, schools, libraries, etc.


    Both are far beyond the constitutional authority of the Federal government.


    Yes both have similar themes: expanding Federal government authority. I agree with you on that. It's a fact really.

    But did the existence of the new healthcare law DIRECTLY result in the existence of the government's ability planting a GPS device in your car?



    southbeach1500 said
    JB82 saidWith your logic, the precedent has been set thanks to the fact that the government also makes you pay taxes for roads, schools, libraries, etc.


    The Constitution gives the Federal government the power to tax.

    Gotcha, thanks for clarifying.