"I'm not gay" Mehlman coming out

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    Another republican who repeatedly lied in order to maintain position and advantage. I bet he's written a book.

    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/08/mehlman.html#comments
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
    Good God...This was the worst-kept secret in Washington.

    Just another Republican hypocrite who lied about who he was in order to get ahead.

    This is news?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
    This just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
    Mehlman lives in Chelsea?!

    Oh, I could have fun with this. It makes me want to reach out to a few folks in my old stomping grounds ... hmm.

    Great link, and great response (by reading this, I know the writer and I would get along famously)
    - - -

    "So, how can Ken Mehlman redeem himself? I want to hear from Ken that he is sorry for being the architect of the 2004 Bush reelection campaign. I want to hear from Ken that he is sorry for his role in developing strategy that resulted in George W. Bush threatening to veto ENDA or any bill containing hate crimes laws. I want to hear from Ken that he is sorry for the pressing of two Federal Marriage Amendments as political tools. I want to hear from Ken that he is sorry for developing the 72-hour strategy, using homophobic churches to become political arms of the GOP before Election Day.

    And those state marriage amendments. I want to hear him apologize for every one of those, too.

    And then there is one other little thing. You see, while you and I had the horrible feelings of being treated so poorly by our President, while teens were receiving the messaging 'gay is bad' giving them 'permission' to gay bash, while our rights were being stripped state by state, Ken was out there laughing all the way to the bank. So, if Ken is really sorry, and he very well may be, then all he needs to do is sell his condo and donate the funds to the causes he worked against so hard for all those years. He's done a lot of damage to a lot of organizations, while making a lot of moeny. A LOT of money. It's time to put his money where his mouth is. Ken Mehlman is sitting in a $3,770,000.00 (that's $3.77 million) condo in Chelsea while we have lost our right to marry in almost 40 states.

    THEN, and only then, should Mehlman be welcomed into our community."
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidGood God...This was the worst-kept secret in Washington.

    Just another Republican hypocrite who lied about who he was in order to get ahead.

    This is news?

    No this is not news -- par for the course. What disturbs me more, however, is the members here who promote this right-wing shit against us. More than a closeted gay Republican, I hate a gay who openly calls himself a Republican, and holds the exact same anti-gay views.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
    Aaron Shock. Lindsay Graham ....

    Just saying.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.


    No, this means Mehlman actively supported anti-gay politicians. This makes him a whore...a self-loathing whore.

    One more reason I'm proud to be a former Republican.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:01 PM GMT
    It's taken him 43 years? In this day and age to get "comfortable" with who he is? This is a blatant joke and completely unacceptable! I feel the climate for coming out eased-up back in the 1990s when Mehlman was already in his twenties (I came out when I was 21, in 1991). Much like the original poster of this topic stated, he ostensibly wanted to maintain position and advantage, but at what cost?? What an asshole!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.


    LOL right, "society" has a hard time accepting heterosexuals for who they are, so much so that they lie about their orientation.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
    cadudesf saidIt's taken him 43 years? In this day and age to get "comfortable" with who he is? This is a blatant joke and completely unacceptable! I feel the climate for coming out eased-up back in the 1990s when Mehlman was already in his twenties (I came out when I was 21, in 1991). Much like the original poster of this topic stated, he ostensibly wanted to maintain position and advantage, but at what cost?? What an asshole!


    What a Republican.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie saidThis just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.


    No, this means Mehlman actively supported anti-gay politicians. This makes him a whore...a self-loathing whore.

    One more reason I'm proud to be a former Republican.


    Society plays a factor in driving people to do this.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:22 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie saidThis just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.


    No, this means Mehlman actively supported anti-gay politicians. This makes him a whore...a self-loathing whore.

    One more reason I'm proud to be a former Republican.


    Society plays a factor in driving people to do this.


    The hard-right (fundamentalist, anti-intellectual) turn the GOP took during the Reagan administration, a direction which intensified during the Dubyah Debacle, forces people like Mehlman to lie about their very being in order to continue to make a buck.

    He's a whore, and it's really rather pathetic of you to try to somehow absolve his hideously self-loathing actions by blaming on some nebulous "society." I live in the same "society," and I've never had to lie about who I am in order to save face. Then again, I've never actively worked for my enemy, so I guess I don't know what Mehlman's going through.

    And sure, he's got a book in the works. Here's hoping it's as successful as Mary Cheney's pile of crap book. What'd that torpid little tome sell, 12 copies?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie said
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie saidThis just means society still has a long way to go in terms of accepting people for who they are regardless of their orientation.


    No, this means Mehlman actively supported anti-gay politicians. This makes him a whore...a self-loathing whore.

    One more reason I'm proud to be a former Republican.


    Society plays a factor in driving people to do this.


    The hard-right (fundamentalist, anti-intellectual) turn the GOP took during the Reagan administration, a direction which intensified during the Dubyah Debacle, forces people like Mehlman to lie about their very being in order to continue to make a buck.

    He's a whore, and it's really rather pathetic of you to try to somehow absolve his hideously self-loathing actions by blaming on some nebulous "society." I live in the same "society," and I've never had to lie about who I am in order to save face. Then again, I've never actively worked for my enemy, so I guess I don't know what Mehlman's going through.

    And sure, he's got a book in the works. Here's hoping it's as successful as Mary Cheney's pile of crap book. What'd that torpid little tome sell, 12 copies?


    Oh please, spare me these kinds of hypocritical pretentions. We all know that with politics there is no total ethical purity with any candidate. You voted for barack obama knowing his official stance is against gay marriage. So it's okay for him to publicly deny a certain position that otherwise he'd be in favor of in order to have more overall support and appeal from the people? I guess in your world you don't believe in voting for the lesser of two evils?

    Wow, I guess that means you support every single solitary thing that the democrats do!!!!

    Please give me an example of one politician you have voted for that hasn't lied about anything at all!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    Nice Dodge, twinkie. Is it a Viper?

    You're absolving Mehlman, pure and simple. Shame on you.

    Time was, a man was held accountable for his actions. Mehlman has ACTIVELY worked AGAINST equality for the LGBT community. Am I pleased with everything Obama has said and done regarding LGBT issues? Hell, no. Am I glad Barack is in office instead of windsock McCain and fucking moron Palin? Hell, yes.

    You make it sound like Obama has done nothing for equality of rights for all; methinks you've been listening to too much FOX "News."


  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    Not that I'm absolving Mehlman, but give him time to prove himself. If he joins the Log Cabin Republicans, his soul may be saved yet.icon_cool.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidNot that I'm absolving Mehlman, but give him time to prove himself. If he joins the Log Cabin Republicans, his soul may be saved yet.icon_cool.gif


    If he joined the LCR, he'd double their membership. And as far as his soul being saved, it's a well known fact that one must sell one's soul in order to join the LCR.

    I have found it impossible to have a cogent, reasoned conversation with an LCR member. There are a LOT of them in the Ft. Lauderdale/Wilton Manors area of Florida. To them, it's all about money. Basic human rights are of no concern to them as long as they have daddy's money in the bank.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidNice Dodge, twinkie. Is it a Viper?





    Ha! I was looking through his profile, thinking I'd see him showing off a Viper.

    Srsly.

    icon_redface.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidNice Dodge, twinkie. Is it a Viper?

    You're absolving Mehlman, pure and simple. Shame on you.

    Time was, a man was held accountable for his actions. Mehlman has ACTIVELY worked AGAINST equality for the LGBT community. Am I pleased with everything Obama has said and done regarding LGBT issues? Hell, no. Am I glad Barack is in office instead of windsock McCain and fucking moron Palin? Hell, yes.

    You make it sound like Obama has done nothing for equality of rights for all; methinks you've been listening to too much FOX "News."




    No I'm not, but I think you're judging him harshly and I was simply saying that some people feel pressured to keep their orientation secret because of a lack of acceptance in society in general. However, you have a point that he was going out of his way to act against the interests of gay people while he had the power to do so.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:56 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Society plays a factor in driving people to do this.


    I thought Republicanism was supposed to be about personal responsibility.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:58 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said

    No I'm not, but I think you're judging him harshly


    OF COURSE I'M JUDGING HIM HARSHLY! He helped pass anti-marriage equality legislation in dozens of states!

    He's a self-loathing whore who undermined his own self-worth in order to remain in the employ of bigots and homophobes. I'm not sure it's possible to judge this fucked-up creep too harshly.

    Do you remember his incessant, repeated denials about his sexuality? Good God, I can't imagine knowing of his litany of lies and even beginning to support him. What sort of psychological hoops must one jump through to arrive at where you seem to be, mock?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    mocktwinkie said
    Society plays a factor in driving people to do this.


    I thought Republicanism was supposed to be about personal responsibility.


    Pre-Reagan/Bush, it was. Now it's about lying and covering up in order to get ahead.

    That's why I left.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    Do you remember his incessant, repeated denials about his sexuality? Good God, I can't imagine knowing of his litany of lies and even beginning to support him. What sort of psychological hoops must one jump through to arrive at where you seem to be, mock?


    There is no reasoning with people like twinkie.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 11:02 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    OtterJoq said
    Do you remember his incessant, repeated denials about his sexuality? Good God, I can't imagine knowing of his litany of lies and even beginning to support him. What sort of psychological hoops must one jump through to arrive at where you seem to be, mock?


    There is no reasoning with people like twinkie.


    I really want to, but in this thread, he's simply not making any sense. How can he justify Mehlman's egregious actions by blaming "society?" What a cop out.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 11:04 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie said

    No I'm not, but I think you're judging him harshly


    OF COURSE I'M JUDGING HIM HARSHLY! He helped pass anti-marriage equality legislation in dozens of states!

    He's a self-loathing whore who undermined his own self-worth in order to remain in the employ of bigots and homophobes. I'm not sure it's possible to judge this fucked-up creep too harshly.

    Do you remember his incessant, repeated denials about his sexuality? Good God, I can't imagine knowing of his litany of lies and even beginning to support him. What sort of psychological hoops must one jump through to arrive at where you seem to be, mock?


    Your initial reaction was that he "lied" about it to "get ahead", as though this is the first time a politician has ever done such a thing.

    You're trying to blame republicans in general instead of strictly talking about the actions of Mehlman. If you are wanting to find some blame, then pick society in general over republicanism.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Aug 25, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    OtterJoq said
    mocktwinkie said

    No I'm not, but I think you're judging him harshly


    OF COURSE I'M JUDGING HIM HARSHLY! He helped pass anti-marriage equality legislation in dozens of states!

    He's a self-loathing whore who undermined his own self-worth in order to remain in the employ of bigots and homophobes. I'm not sure it's possible to judge this fucked-up creep too harshly.

    Do you remember his incessant, repeated denials about his sexuality? Good God, I can't imagine knowing of his litany of lies and even beginning to support him. What sort of psychological hoops must one jump through to arrive at where you seem to be, mock?


    Your initial reaction was that he "lied" about it to "get ahead", as though this is the first time a politician has ever done such a thing.


    Of course this isn't the first time a politician has lied. But it's been a long time since someone has lied for this long, this forcefully, this fervently. As a Republican yourself, don't you feel the least bit upset and betrayed by this man? How could you NOT?

    I don't get why you're sticking up for this cowardly hypocrite.