Gaining Muscle Mass... Concerned/Needing Advicve

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    Aug 26, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    Hey guys,

    So I'm 19 years old, about 6'1'' and weigh 157 lbs... So i'm pretty skinny, and underweight. I workout three times a week lifting, and run a mile twice a week.

    Here's my concern... I did the research and apparently I am supposed to consume about 3100 calories a day, 158 grams of protein/carbs, and about 65g of fat. The past couple of days I would say I have definitely increased the amount I eat, especially in the protein/calories portion of the diet.

    Here's my concern, when I continue to eat this much, I feel as if I am not putting on muscle, but instead I am putting on fat, and losing tone in my abs. How can I follow such a diet and continue to feel good about myself? I know I could up the amount I work out to four days a week, maybe five, but I don't have the time due to college.

    Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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    Sep 05, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    each body and metab are diff and you need to make sure that your body is intended for that amount of intake. your muscle development is dependent on frame and regimen. maybe talk with a trainer. I've tried for years to bulk up but i am tall and slim with fine bones, and it just don't happen for me. I have a swimmers physique, and i'm reasonalby accepting of that....hope this helps out a bit. Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Sep 05, 2010 5:38 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    krwright13 said
    Fat cells are forevericon_eek.gif


    What does this mean? For somebody like me who is overweight? I lost 30 pounds so far... hope that's 30 pounds of fat!icon_sad.gif
  • InsatiableBlo...

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    Sep 05, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
    You can't gain fat cells.
    The amount your born with is the amount you will have for life. Overeating causes them to swell.
    Eat around 4000-5000 calories a day of lean, low fat foods. Get in the habit of reading the nutritional facts on the side of food items.
    Have 3 hardcore workouts a week, with low reps and high weight. If your not sore the next day, you didnt workout hard enough.

    Hope this helps, good luck!
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    Sep 05, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    viveutvivas saidThe fat cells remain, unfortunately. They just deflate.

    And a deflated fat cell is an angry fat cell. It thinks it is starving (well, because it is), and will keep pumping our hormones that will make your brain hungry for the rest of your life. That is why very few people ever successfully keep the weight off for long.

    And that is why it is better not to gain the fat cells in the first place.
    that is an absolute load of bullshit, your born with a certain number of fat cells, they expand and contract as you gain and lose fat, the number fat cells neither increases or decreases they remain the number you started off with and you'll die with the same number (assuming you don't get lipo).

    Your body will think it's starving when you aren't getting enough calories and will begin to hold onto fat stores for as long as possible and start pulling apart muscle for energy instead.

    A fat cell is neither angry nor happy and your body is only doing what its designed to do, store energy for times when external sources are low.
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    Sep 05, 2010 11:56 PM GMT
    Honestly, forget about xx grams protein per pound of bodyweight ratio thing. That shit gets regurgitated so much in books, on the internet, in gym locker rooms, etc. Just eat clean and be aware of the changes in your body. Only you know how much protein/carb/fat your body needs. Sounds like you already figured it out. And just in time before you got too bloated.

    If your current work/school schedule limits your workout time, then there's absolutely no need to maintain such a high calorie diet. Cut back on the calories just enough to help you maintain a lean body. You will still continue to make muscular gains, but it will come more gradually. When your schedule frees up, you can bump up the calories a little and increase the intensity of your workouts.
  • HankFit247

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    Sep 06, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
    just count your protein and be smart about the foods you consume.

    1-1.5 grams of protein per body weight/goal weight per day.
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    lilTanker saidthat is an absolute load of bullshit, your born with a certain number of fat cells, they expand and contract as you gain and lose fat, the number fat cells neither increases or decreases they remain the number you started off with and you'll die with the same number (assuming you don't get lipo).



    You, sir, are the purveyor of bullshit. icon_razz.gif

    The total number of fat cells in the human body does increase when a person gains a large amount of weight. The normal small daily or weekly fluctuations in a person’s weight are usually associated with an incremental increase or decrease in the average size of the individual’s fat cells. However, there is a maximum size to which fat cells can grow. With significant weight gain new fat cells are created from fibroblasts.

    On the other hand, when a patient loses a substantial amount of weight by dieting, the fat cells simply shrink in size but do not necessarily diminish in number.

    So even if you lose weight, you may have more fat cells than before you gained it.

    When you gain weight, your fat cells increase in volume, and in some cases number (see above), and start to aromatize more testosterone into estrogen, and too much estrogen causes a tendency to gain even more weight and make weight loss difficult. Also, larger fat cells cause insulin resistance, which makes weight gain easy and weight loss hard, and this may continue after you have lost the weight.

    In the end, the evidence is just too overwhelming. Only a minuscule minority of people who lose fat ever keeps it off.


    plagiarism
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:18 AM GMT
    marineboi1 said
    plagiarism
    http://www.liposuction.com/faqs/obesity.php


    I am still trying to get the damn indenting right so I can finish the post, give me a break! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    lilTanker said
    A fat cell is neither angry nor happy...


    It is called metaphor icon_rolleyes.gif


    a stupid one icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:30 AM GMT
    Viveutvivas saidSays the faceless nameless troll


    says the so called "professor" who
    - plagiarizes shit on the internet until he is called on it
    - is faceless and most likely stole pics from the internet
    - apparently has a time machine because his age is 38 one day, 45 the next and 40 shortly after
    - has a superior-than-thou bullshit attitude

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    Sep 06, 2010 12:39 AM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    marineboi1 saidsays the so called "professor" who
    - plagiarizes shit on the internet until he is called on it
    - is faceless and most likely stole pics from the internet
    - apparently has a time machine because his age is 38 one day, 45 the next and 40 shortly after
    - has a superior-than-thou bullshit attitude

    icon_rolleyes.gif


    Have you gone totally insane? icon_eek.gif


    i know it probably hurts to be called on your bullshit. plenty people here think you're an uptight asshole.
  • NYCguy74

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    Sep 06, 2010 12:55 AM GMT
    KRWright13 saidThe past couple of days I would say I have definitely increased the amount I eat,


    a couple of days could just be water retention, and probably not enough time to see a major change from diet alone. give it a couple weeks. your body can go up and down with doing the same thing every day.

    those numbers look like a good starting point.

    make sure you are avoiding simple and processed carbs. go for whole grains and natural sugars like fruit.

    and go for the good fats, nuts, avocados, olive oil etc. instead of saturated fats from meat, some is ok, but everything in moderation.

    spread the protein (and the calories in general) throughout the day into smaller portions instead of 3 big meals. aim for 5 to 6.
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:59 AM GMT
    hryadm said
    viveutvivas said
    krwright13 said
    Fat cells are forevericon_eek.gif


    What does this mean? For somebody like me who is overweight? I lost 30 pounds so far... hope that's 30 pounds of fat!icon_sad.gif


    Freakin' A! Congrats!
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    Sep 06, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidFor the record, a person can increase his or her number of fat cells. They can increase for a variety of reasons. But the main cause is from being morbidly obese to begin with.

    And fat cells do not expand or contract. That is what muscle cells do. Fat cells either become larger or smaller due to diet and exercise (or lack thereof).


    MuchMoreThanMuscle,

    Can you decrease fat cells too?
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    Sep 06, 2010 3:52 PM GMT
    darius30 said
    hryadm said
    viveutvivas said
    krwright13 said
    Fat cells are forevericon_eek.gif


    What does this mean? For somebody like me who is overweight? I lost 30 pounds so far... hope that's 30 pounds of fat!icon_sad.gif


    Freakin' A! Congrats!


    Thanks! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 06, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
    KRWright13 said Hey guys,

    So I'm 19 years old, about 6'1'' and weigh 157 lbs... So i'm pretty skinny, and underweight. I workout three times a week lifting, and run a mile twice a week.

    Here's my concern... I did the research and apparently I am supposed to consume about 3100 calories a day, 158 grams of protein/carbs, and about 65g of fat. The past couple of days I would say I have definitely increased the amount I eat, especially in the protein/calories portion of the diet.

    Here's my concern, when I continue to eat this much, I feel as if I am not putting on muscle, but instead I am putting on fat, and losing tone in my abs. How can I follow such a diet and continue to feel good about myself? I know I could up the amount I work out to four days a week, maybe five, but I don't have the time due to college.

    Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
    Ok, here is your first problem buddy with your workout plan you need to cut out the cardio. There is no reason for guys like yourself to do cardio. The next thing you need to do is try eating about 3000 calories a day and start taking protein shakes during and immediately after your workout. when you take the one after your workout drink a gatorade or juice before drinking the protein shake. do not drink the entire gatorade. finally, you should be hitting each muscle at least twice a week and you should be increasing the weight at least once during each set. hopefully, this will get you some serious gains.
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    Sep 06, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidOk, here is your first problem buddy with your workout plan you need to cut out the cardio. There is no reason for guys like yourself to do cardio.


    I wouldn't say you should entirely cut the cardio. That would leave out an important aspect of training...

    I have a similar problem. Gaining takes a long time, but slow progress is better than no progress! My trainer didn't say to eliminate cardio, but to limit it or it would become counterproductive. No more than 20ish minutes on a cardio day.
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    Sep 06, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
    Personally..

    What i'd recommend is talking to someone or befriending someone who's a trainer and or a nutritionist.

    The saying "it's 60% diet 40% work out" for me works. Everyone's body is different ofcourse. I'd recommend you sit down with people in real life rather than online because they can monitor your progress for you and see what works and what doesn't work for you.

    Yes it will cost money, however i believe the end result is worth the payments.

    I started at 134-135 lbs. But, i'm 5'5. Still that was considered underweight for my hieght. I'm now 165lbs after just 1 year. If i can do it... ANYONE can. Seriously, i used to be one lazy bastard but i stuck with it. I wanted a life style change and that's what i did.

    Working, as many people will disagree with me, is an addiction. Once you start to fall in love with the machines and the diet, it's quite hard to stop. I've not had a pizza, pasta or soda in over a year. I have a good diet plan and i stick to it. I don't and never counted my calories, which is probably the reason why i can't gain another 20 lbs. I eat chicken only and veggies and egg whites and i have carbs in there such as oatmeal, cereal, yogurt.. I have tons of milk with almost every meal. I love milk.

    You just have to figure out what's right for your body. Don't listen to many people online. They will try to say what's best for you when they don't know your life style. Find someone in your life that you can work with on a weekly or daily basis. Best advice i can give. The only problem with my advice is that it costs money. However, as i said before.. It's well worth it.

    -Hope this helps at least. And sorry, i don't mean to preach.
    -Sammy.