Glen Beck rally - incoherent and factually wrong

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    Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
    This frightens me. They're riled up with lies so that they will vote against their own self-interests. Thanks, fox news and rupert murdoch.



    I wonder what these people would say about gay people....
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    Aug 31, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    This video is going viral today...I love it!
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    Aug 31, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    bigtallman saidThis frightens me. They're riled up with lies so that they will vote against their own self-interests. Thanks, fox news and rupert murdoch.

    I wonder what these people would say about gay people....

    Don't forget the billionaire Koch brothers, who are funding this alleged "grass roots movement." And former Republican leader Dick Armey, who is directing it. Not to mention FOX News, which is cheerleading it, with their lead cheerleader, Glenn Beck.

    As for gay people, the majority of teabaggers hate us, echoing the official Republican Party and right-wing line. We are the enemies of family values, the Republican mantra.
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    Aug 31, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    Yea my friend sent this to me earlier, The video REALLY picks up at 3:24 when all those people claim Glenn Beck never called Obama a racist.

    Also, just listen to how they reference god in just about everything, God damn.
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    Aug 31, 2010 6:56 PM GMT
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    As for gay people, the majority of teabaggers hate us, echoing the official Republican Party and right-wing line.


    True dat.
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    Aug 31, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    What is this kid trying to prove? He makes video after video interviewing intellectually challenged people to make his point that anyone who identifies with the tea party is a loony?

    I think there was a video floating around of someone from fox news interviewing people at Berkeley and they acted just as ignorant.

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    Aug 31, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    i see a bunch of fat, white people... none of them look too poor to eat. i'm sorry, but you should at least look malnourished if you're going to try for sympathy for your cause. i mean really... it's kinda like watching a field of sally struthers impersonators asking for MORE MORE MORE.

    if these people get any more (of whatever the hell it is they think they are lacking), they might pop. why are there so few (none?) black people there saying that this happening on the anniversary of the "i have a dream speech" is appropriate?
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    Aug 31, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    We don't need a sex tape, we have this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Nonsense:_Glenn_Beck_and_the_Triumph_of_Ignorance

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    Aug 31, 2010 7:51 PM GMT
    And it's not the particular people he interviewed that's sad. Zaitchik puts it better than anything I can say:

    http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010052023/glenn-becks-common-nonsense-interview-alex-zaitchikSR: Beck has set himself up as this sort of revisionist history and civics teacher. What do you think it means for the country that we've got two million people watching his fractured-fairy-tale versions of history every day?

    AZ: It doesn't speak very well for the state of conservatism, that's for sure. It wasn't that long ago that those people representing conservatism in high-profile positions were people like Bill Buckley, who -- disagree with him as you might have on the issues -- was fairly educated, and didn't make statements that were so wildly at odds with reality. So I think first and foremost, it's a statement on conservatism more than it's a statement on the country.

    You also need to keep it in perspective that it's only a very small percentage of the country at large that's watching this guy, and those people tend to be the more hardcore conservatives.

    And to the extent that it is a reflection on the country, it's a sign of the fracturing of media into these niche communities where people get their politics -- and in this case, their ignorance -- reinforced. The old gatekeeper system is, of course, done. You no longer have people producing what used to be called "quality television." You don't have three networks and PBS deciding what goes on television. Now you have FOX producers, and people like Glenn Beck, who are able to draw audiences -- who formerly were forced to go on community television or become street corner preachers and stuff -- are now on FOX News.

    May I even suggest the analogy of a certain beer hall preacher?icon_exclaim.gif
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    Aug 31, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
    “PROTECT WHITE CRACKER BABIES”

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    Aug 31, 2010 8:11 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhat is this kid trying to prove? He makes video after video interviewing intellectually challenged people to make his point that anyone who identifies with the tea party is a loony?

    I think there was a video floating around of someone from fox news interviewing people at Berkeley and they acted just as ignorant.



    Yeah, there´s this skinny white kid on a website I use who also keeps flogging a dead horse, trying to prove to others his unrealistic political ideology which he believes. only he´s less successful than the kid in the video as HE¨S BATSHIT INSANE, his position is incoherent while the kid in the video has a point.
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    Aug 31, 2010 8:19 PM GMT
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    Aug 31, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidWhat is this kid trying to prove? He makes video after video interviewing intellectually challenged people to make his point that anyone who identifies with the tea party is a loony?

    I think there was a video floating around of someone from fox news interviewing people at Berkeley and they acted just as ignorant.



    Yeah, there´s this skinny white kid on a website I use who also keeps flogging a dead horse, trying to prove to others his unrealistic political ideology which he believes. only he´s less successful than the kid in the video as HE¨S BATSHIT INSANE, his position is incoherent while the kid in the video has a point.


    Except I'm half "white".
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    Aug 31, 2010 9:32 PM GMT
    That's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 31, 2010 9:36 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    I know, right? It was like an al fresco Cracker Barrel restaurant.
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    Aug 31, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    I was surprised some of them actually made a couple valid points. One being the fact that illegal aliens could be bringing over communicable diseases. If there's no screening process there's no way of knowing what's coming over.
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    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    I was surprised some of them actually made a couple valid points. One being the fact that illegal aliens could be bringing over communicable diseases. If there's no screening process there's no way of knowing what's coming over.


    As opposed to the screenign process of "legal" immigrants? That's a ridiculous, xenophobic statement. Of course, the Mexicans are bringing over all the crazy diseases. It makes me very sad that you found anything on that valid.

    In general terms, what I found absolutely stunning was how many of them didn't seem to know much about Glenn Beck!
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:03 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    I was surprised some of them actually made a couple valid points. One being the fact that illegal aliens could be bringing over communicable diseases. If there's no screening process there's no way of knowing what's coming over.


    As opposed to the screenign process of "legal" immigrants? That's a ridiculous, xenophobic statement. Of course, the Mexicans are bringing over all the crazy diseases. It makes me very sad that you found anything on that valid.

    In general terms, what I found absolutely stunning was how many of them didn't seem to know much about Glenn Beck!


    It's not xenophobic in the least. You obviously don't even know the meaning of the word. And what do mexicans in particular have to do with anything? It's the general principle that people could be just walking in with communicable diseases and there's no way to find out where they may be coming from. The third world has numerous diseases.

    Where do you think HIV came from? ...Haiti, most likely.
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:04 PM GMT
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:17 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    Oh you must have missed all the polling places in November where Obama voters were interviewed post-vote where they had no clue what Obama stood for. It works both ways...there are ill-informed people on both sides. Don't single out these people just because you disagree with them.
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
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    Where do you think HIV came from? ...Haiti, most likely.


    Off topic, but please try to at least back up your beliefs with some reading.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_HIV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R.
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:43 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 saidThat's stunning. Stunning.

    Those had to be the dumbest, least informed people I've ever seen in one place. icon_eek.gif


    I was surprised some of them actually made a couple valid points. One being the fact that illegal aliens could be bringing over communicable diseases. If there's no screening process there's no way of knowing what's coming over.


    As opposed to the screenign process of "legal" immigrants? That's a ridiculous, xenophobic statement. Of course, the Mexicans are bringing over all the crazy diseases. It makes me very sad that you found anything on that valid.

    In general terms, what I found absolutely stunning was how many of them didn't seem to know much about Glenn Beck!


    It's not xenophobic in the least. You obviously don't even know the meaning of the word. And what do mexicans in particular have to do with anything? It's the general principle that people could be just walking in with communicable diseases and there's no way to find out where they may be coming from. The third world has numerous diseases.

    Where do you think HIV came from? ...Haiti, most likely.


    Actually, HIV was traced to Africa where it jumped from primates to humans during the slaughter and eating of certain monkeys.

    And most of the third world diseases are not an issue in the West since they are diseases of poverty (Malaria, etc.).
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:51 PM GMT
    Off topic again, but TB is actually an issue, both from legal and illegal immigrants. Remember the Hepatitis A/strawberry incident? One unfortunate side effect of cheap strawberries picked by undocumented immigrants.
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    Aug 31, 2010 11:58 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidIt's the general principle that people could be just walking in with communicable diseases and there's no way to find out where they may be coming from. The third world has numerous diseases.

    Where do you think HIV came from? ...Haiti, most likely.


    A few moments thought will demonstrate the stupidity of your proposal.

    Firstly, when HIV was originally brought into the US, it was not understood what caused the disease was nor how to detect it.

    Secondly, disease is not only communicated by humans; it is more often carried by vermin, etc. As much as we might wish to screen the rodents entering the country (whether from land borders or shipping), the task is manifestly futile.

    Thirdly, we should ask ourselves the following question: are illegal immigrants a significant or leading cause of the introduction of disease? It seems highly unlikely that this is the case. Firstly, because illegal immigrants are likely to cross the border significantly less frequently than the average citizen (for obvious reasons) and secondly because epidemic transmission in its initial stages proceeds through small numbers of highly improbably events; we should look to those who travel legally and frequently to exotic places, and legal visitors to the US from such climes for the the most likely mode of introduction.
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    mocktwinkie saidIt's the general principle that people could be just walking in with communicable diseases and there's no way to find out where they may be coming from. The third world has numerous diseases.

    Where do you think HIV came from? ...Haiti, most likely.


    A few moments thought will demonstrate the stupidity of your proposal.

    Firstly, when HIV was originally brought into the US, it was not understood what caused the disease was nor how to detect it.

    Secondly, disease is not only communicated by humans; it is more often carried by vermin, etc. As much as we might wish to screen the rodents entering the country (whether from land borders or shipping), the task is manifestly futile.

    Thirdly, we should ask ourselves the following question: are illegal immigrants a significant or leading cause of the introduction of disease? It seems highly unlikely that this is the case. Firstly, because illegal immigrants are likely to cross the border significantly less frequently than the average citizen (for obvious reasons) and secondly because epidemic transmission in its initial stages proceeds through small numbers of highly improbably events; we should look to those who travel legally and frequently to exotic places, and legal visitors to the US from such climes for the the most likely mode of introduction.


    There are plenty of reasons to be against illegal immigration regardless of whether or not this is deemed something important. I just found it to be a good point raised, especially from such otherwise seemingly unintelligent people.

    I also never suggested that HIV was the result of illegal immigration. It probably came from legal immigration.