A Gay Conspiracy (rolls eyes)

  • metta

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    Sep 01, 2010 8:39 AM GMT
    Anti-Bullying Policies are a Gay Conspiracy, Says Mega Church

    http://gawker.com/5626199/anti+bullying-policies-are-a-gay-conspiracy-says-mega-church
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    Sep 01, 2010 9:06 AM GMT
    They want gay people to stop talking about child-bullying? hahahahahah fucking idiot Christians.
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    Sep 01, 2010 10:33 AM GMT
    So... not getting bullied is what makes people gay?
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    Sep 01, 2010 10:54 AM GMT
    That "minister" (aka: self-loathing gay-hating closet queen) need to be shot.
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    Sep 01, 2010 11:33 AM GMT
    Oh it's just good ol' "Dr." Dobson.

    He's always good for a laugh! Besides... this "argument" isn't at all new.
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    Sep 01, 2010 11:40 AM GMT
    my parents were suprised when i wanted to throw rocks at the gay rights activists when i was a kid but i told them its in the bible. I would have thrown rocks at the gay kids in school too if we hadn't been forming boy bands and practicing kissing. Nobody really explained what gay was to me until high school......
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    Sep 01, 2010 12:04 PM GMT
    Focus on the Family was founded in the 70's by Dr. James C. Dobson, who once offered these tips on raising a fine young American boy:

    Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

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  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 01, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
    It is remarkably twisted. I'm amazed they can make a case without their listeners laughing out loud.
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    Sep 01, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
    Par for the course for these folks.

    One of my favorite posts in the comments section:

    "When Jesus was a Senior at Nazareth High he would walk the halls bumping into sinners and be all "FAG!" and knock the books out their hands. Oh how the Disciples would laugh. As they walked away Peter would always do that fake I'm gonna punch you trick and make 'em flinch. It was awesome."
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    Sep 01, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
    reppaT saidFocus on the Family was founded in the 70's by Dr. James C. Dobson, who once offered these tips on raising a fine young American boy:

    Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

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    That's kind of mind-blowing, as in rather disturbing. Not that I don't believe you... but what is the source for that?
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    Sep 01, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    This quote is in the article posted by metta8.

    alphatrigger said
    reppaT saidFocus on the Family was founded in the 70's by Dr. James C. Dobson, who once offered these tips on raising a fine young American boy:

    Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

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    That's kind of mind-blowing, as in rather disturbing. Not that I don't believe you... but what is the source for that?
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    Sep 01, 2010 1:10 PM GMT
    Hahah.... yup. found it there.

    Still rather disturbing.
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    Sep 01, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
    Because conservatives are fundamentally about "a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality".

  • Menergy_1

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    Sep 01, 2010 1:22 PM GMT
    Another "real life" example of "righteousness":

    From Joe.My.God's blog:


    After the suicides of three gay teens in just one year, a Minnesota school district has rebuffed offers from LGBT groups to help with anti-bullying education, citing a 2009 edict that "sexual orientation is not to be taught in the district." This, despite charges that one of the teens killed himself last year after being harassed by two of his own teachers. As LGBT groups continue to push for anti-bullying programs, a group of Christian parents has naturally formed an opposition organization.
    In July, a shadow group of parents formed in the district with the intention on staving off any advances for LGBT students. The Parents Action League launched its website in June along with a petition that reads, “Whereas homosexual behavior exposes participants to many life-threatening health risks; and whereas the classroom environment needs to be solely focused on academics; Therefore, we the undersigned citizens of Anoka-Hennepin School District No. 11 do whole heartedly support and desire that the School Board adhere to … the AH District 11 Sexual Orientation Curriculum Policy.” When the Minnesota Independent asked who founded the group and if it had any connections to other “pro-family” groups in the state, an unsigned email came back: “We think our website explains very well what we’re about and who founded it – citizens in the Anoka Hennepin School District.” When questioned about ways to get more information about the group’s activities, the Independent was told via email, “We do not see your name on our on-line petition. Once you sign the petition, we may be contacting you” [emphasis theirs].
    Currently the website for the Parents Action League bears only this message: "We have never been inundated with so much hate and disdain for a differing viewpoint than that of the pro-gay movement. Our group has NEVER written anything hateful on our site or to any member of the GET group with whom we strongly disagree. Apparently, tolerance, kindness and decency are only to be extended to the pro-gay viewpoint - talk about your bullying!"
    http://minnesotaindependent.com/64047/anti-gay-group-organizes-in-anoka-schools-as-community-deals-with-gay-suicides
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    Sep 01, 2010 1:53 PM GMT
    bigtallman saidBecause conservatives are fundamentally about "a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality".



    Ideally, a conservative is fundamentally about returning to policies that worked before... and keeping the policies that work now, while discarding the ones that do not work.

    And while it is said in our founding documents that we are all "equal under the law", and are "created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights..."

    ... we are not likely to ever have full and true equality in all measures of the word (economic, social, talent, etc).
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
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    bigtallman saidBecause conservatives are fundamentally about "a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality".



    Ideally, a conservative is fundamentally about returning to policies that worked before... and keeping the policies that work now, while discarding the ones that do not work.

    And while it is said in our founding documents that we are all "equal under the law", and are "created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights..."

    ... we are not likely to ever have full and true equality in all measures of the word (economic, social, talent, etc).


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidThey want gay people to stop talking about child-bullying? hahahahahah fucking idiot Christians.


    ain't that a broad brush, brother? something like 'fucking idiot gays??? Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    this is what's really going to happen!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZuK_wYrqp8
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:35 PM GMT
    bigtallman saidhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox


    Interesting read. There is likely something to this.

    But a certain willingness to see things as right or wrong, good or evil, ill-planned or well-planned should not necessarily be viewed as a "neurosis".

    And there are plenty of folks on the far left who can be just as myopic and close-minded about their positions, failing to see any room for nuance or accommodation for the views of those on the right when determining policy.
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
    alphatrigger said
    bigtallman saidhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox


    Interesting read. There is likely something to this.

    But a certain willingness to see things as right or wrong, good or evil, ill-planned or well-planned should not necessarily be viewed as a "neurosis".

    And there are plenty of folks on the far left who can be just as myopic and close-minded about their positions, failing to see any room for nuance or accommodation for the views of those on the right when determining policy.


    At issue is the inability to see and/or accept nuance and ambiguity when that inability leads to making assertions and actions that have a negative outcome.

    Not all things are equal. Not all opinions are valid. Not everyone is right. Your last sentence is logically unsupportable.
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
    Well consider this:

    For some in the hard left, single-payer is as much of a non-negotiable as the winning war in Iraq was for many neo-conservatives.

    Or perhaps more germane to us:

    "Proposition 8 must be repealed/overturned".

    I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of RJ'ers (if not the wider LGBT population) will not only agree, but will hold that anything less (civil unions/partnerships/etc -- "nuances" of gay partnerships, if you will) is not acceptable.
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidWell consider this:

    For some in the hard left, single-payer is as much of a non-negotiable as the winning war in Iraq was for many neo-conservatives.

    Or perhaps more germane to us:

    "Proposition 8 must be repealed/overturned".

    I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of RJ'ers (if not the wider LGBT population) will not only agree, but will hold that anything less (civil unions/partnerships/etc -- "nuances" of gay partnerships, if you will) is not acceptable.


    Inability to see nuance where nuance exists. Ambiguity where ambiguity exists.

    Gosh you're frustrating.
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    Sep 01, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
    One of the reasons for my bumper sticker: SO MANY CHRISTIANS, SO FEW LIONS. icon_twisted.gif