What if Hillary went quietly into the night?

  • redheaded_dud...

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    Feb 24, 2008 8:28 PM GMT
    It's almost unimaginable to think she would do so, but what if Hillary Clinton exited the race now? That's just what a writer from Newsweek says she should do.
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/114725/output/print

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    Feb 24, 2008 8:43 PM GMT
    Sen Clinton's campaign is too entrenched to quit right now. She still has give-or-take about half the support of democrats and the personal motivation to continue, albeit the odds are slowly beginning to stack against her. The single most deciding factor now would be how Hillary fares in Texas and Ohio. Based on the article and several others I have read, she needs more than just win both of those states but more so win by a clear margin much like Obama's previous victories after Super Tuesday. If that does not happen, then expect an announcement to come from her camp Wednesday March 5th. And if that announcement is anything other than dropping out of the race, expect her to be criticized and further isolated by the media and other politicians that are eager to see closure in all this.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 24, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    Quietly in the night? That would be an odd time for her to take the oath of office...

    I think thats a greater possiblity than anything else.
  • SkyMiles

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    Feb 25, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    It could happen, but I do think Ohio and Texas should have their say. If Hillary lost those, then I'd say it would a testament to good judgement to bow out. If she wins, then it's still game on.
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    Feb 25, 2008 4:28 AM GMT
    What if they tie again? I voted for hillary already in massachusetts and she won my state but both of the candidates keep splitting there delegates no m,atter who wins the state.
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    Feb 25, 2008 4:53 AM GMT
    gosh, i hope she doesn't win. She disappoints me more and more, especially with her latest dramatic shrieking fit.



    What a disappointment
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    Feb 25, 2008 4:57 AM GMT
    That's shrieking?
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    Feb 25, 2008 5:07 AM GMT
    "...She disappoints me more and more, especially with her latest dramatic shrieking fit...."

    I just watched the whole thing. I see a forceful woman, effectively making a point, whether you agree with that point or not. By characterizing it as "shrieking", you;re making my point from another thread. Clinton is held to a higher standard of conduct because she is a woman.

    When a man is on the offensive on such issues, he is "assertive", "dynamic", "forceful". But, Clinton is "shrieking."

    This, gentlemen, is the issue in a nutshell, no matter what the issues, no matter whether you like Clinton or Obama. There is such an anti-woman bias in this country, that many men, simply cannot stand to see a forceful woman in such a position of power.
  • irishkcguy

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    Feb 25, 2008 5:44 AM GMT
    She will never go quietly. She put up with Bill's shit for years specifically so she could be president. This will get very, very ugly. The last poll I read had Obama up 49-42 nationally. He has almost a million more votes nationally than she has. He has 100 more delegates than she has. He has won more overall states than she has. She will not accept that. If she bows out gracefully I will be stunned and also impressed at her doing the right thing.
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    Feb 25, 2008 12:33 PM GMT

    Hillary doesn't strike me as a person who would quit in the middle of the race. I believe she sacrificed a lot of her personal happiness and dreams to accommodate the political ambition of her husband and hers. She felt the status and power the President of US has. It is a great aphrodisiac. Hillary will definitely not waiver at the first sign of trouble. She will fight until the end.

    I'm not sure who would be a better president.icon_redface.gif But i think this election will go into history books, as a woman and an afro-american are both seriously running for presidency of USA and with a huge number of voters supporting them. icon_biggrin.gif It's a sign that something has changed in the way people think and perceive the World and politics. Imagine: if ten years ago somebody had said that people will choose their new President between a black man and a woman (if we forget for a moment the republican party), would anyone have believed it? icon_idea.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 25, 2008 1:09 PM GMT
    sickothesame saidgosh, i hope she doesn't win. She disappoints me more and more, especially with her latest dramatic shrieking fit.



    What a disappointment



    I think she's great, far from a disappointment. If she doesn't win, I'm sure she will back Obama and work for his election. There was no shrieking fit, thats
    overly dramatic. icon_mad.gif
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    Feb 25, 2008 5:53 PM GMT
    After March 4th I hope she leaves with some shred of dignity. Now, that her campaign is swirling in the bottom of the bowl, she had this to day this weekend.



    and now we have a Drudge Report saying her campaign was circulating this photo

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    a photo of Obama on a diplomatic trip to Somalia wearing the traditional garb of Somali's: something senators do all the time.

    If she wants to exit with some dignity she better hold on to some.
  • darkeyedresol...

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    Feb 25, 2008 5:59 PM GMT
    She is leading in ohio with about 8 to 9 points with what come out today, and Texas seems to be tight for both of them.

    It does a disservice to those working for her in those states to stop, and the Clintons are known for their ability to come back from the brink.

    I think she will bow out after these primaries if it goes badly for her, people should have a choice...not all of us want Obama to win.

    I really don't...
  • redheaded_dud...

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    Feb 26, 2008 2:24 AM GMT
    darkeyedresolve saidShe is leading in ohio with about 8 to 9 points with what come out today, and Texas seems to be tight for both of them.

    It does a disservice to those working for her in those states to stop, and the Clintons are known for their ability to come back from the brink.

    I think she will bow out after these primaries if it goes badly for her, people should have a choice...not all of us want Obama to win.

    I really don't...


    It's a really tight race in both Ohio and Texas, but Hillary has a significant lead in Pennsylvania, if you believe the polls. It's a real horse race this year, that's for sure.

    BTW, if you haven't looked at this site, and you're even a little bit interested in politics, it is fairly balanced on which stories they use, and their polls are a good amalgam of various major polls. An informed electorate is a good thing, right? icon_smile.gif
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

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    Feb 26, 2008 3:04 AM GMT
    That was far from misogyny, although you may disagree. And I would consider that shrieking. It has nothing to do with gender. Whenever McCain talks he seems to be trying to stifle his strong desire to fly off the handle. I consider it shrieking because it is a death throes. Like the plagiarism issue and everything else she tries to do, it is frenetic and desperate. The lack of content is what adds to me calling it shrieking. She sets up strawmen and falls to the same Rovian tactics she attempts to decry. But the problem is if you are already a Hillary supporter, you won't see anything she does as wrong.

    I'm not holding her to a different standard. She is the last Dem left (except Gravel, right) and she comes up woefully short of what I would consider "honesty."
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    Feb 26, 2008 4:16 AM GMT
    Well guys it isn't looking very good for her in all honesty. She seems to be losing a few points in the polls to Obama, every couple of days in these states coming up for March 4. She would have to win by about 20 or more points to pull ahead and save her candidacy. I think that she will be honorable for the sake of the party, so I'm going to say that she'll do what it takes to have a favorable result for her no-matter the outcome, win or lose. I will back Obama, and I hope we can all do that, we sure don't want McCain the flip flopper in the presidency to give us another 100 years of occupation and BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN.
  • mcwclewis

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    Feb 26, 2008 6:59 AM GMT
    "But the problem is if you are already a Hillary supporter, you won't see anything she does as wrong."

    Same with any politician, buddy.
  • redheaded_dud...

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    Feb 27, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
    I thought the weakest part of her performance on tonight's Ohio debate was when she pointed out that she was being asked questions first. I was surprised that she brought it up, because it made her seem like she was complaining about being asked questions in a debate.

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    Feb 27, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    I need to watch tonights debate, but after the one in Austin, I think I am a hilary supporter.

    I would love to see them both in office Pres. and Vice.
  • redheaded_dud...

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    Feb 28, 2008 3:11 AM GMT
    obscenewish saidThat's shrieking?


    Clinton chokes (up). Found this on YouTube and just thought it was odd, but it made me laugh. Please, get Barack a pillow!