AZ Gov. Jan Brewer embarrasses herself during the AZ Governor's race debate...

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    Sep 03, 2010 4:58 AM GMT
    as well as embarrassing the state of AZ.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/09/jan_brewers_terribly_awkward_d.html?wprss=plum-line

    And Brewer continues to refuse to apologize for lying and saying that AZ is so unsafe that there are people being beheaded in the AZ desert by illegal immigrants.

    http://www.kpho.com/news/24858113/detail.html

    A statement that is completely false and extremely irresponsible.
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    Sep 03, 2010 5:27 AM GMT
    She may be in the early stages of Alzheimer's.

    That, or she's just fucking crazy.
  • tennsjock

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    Sep 03, 2010 6:09 AM GMT
    ouch! that was so painful to watch. are you sure she's not running for class president ... in middle school?
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    Sep 03, 2010 6:21 AM GMT
    tennsjock saidouch! that was so painful to watch. are you sure she's not running for class president ... in middle school?


    If she were, she probably wouldn't get elected.

    But watch her get re-elected governor (though I hope not).

    Btw, there's already been some discussion of the KPHO segment in the linked thread.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1122671
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    Sep 03, 2010 10:35 AM GMT
    Republicans don't care


    ie: George W Bush bush-idiot.jpg

    and Sara Palin sarah-palin-turkey-slaughter-big.jpg?w=3
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    Sep 03, 2010 10:48 AM GMT
    OtterJoq saidShe may be in the early stages of Alzheimer's.

    That, or she's just fucking crazy.


    Or, as is common with republicans and teabaggers, she has a loose concept of "truth" when it doesn't align with "getting what I want".
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    Sep 03, 2010 11:45 AM GMT
    GQjock saidRepublicans don't care


    ie: George W Bush bush-idiot.jpg

    and Sara Palin sarah-palin-turkey-slaughter-big.jpg?w=3

    Yeah, the polls say she'll be reelected. These are the kind of candidates Republicans like best -- inarticulate liars, who reinforce their own bigotries & prejudices.
  • DalTX

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    Sep 03, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
    Nice prep work Einstein. She makes Shit-for-brains Palin look like
    Churchill.
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    Sep 03, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    I may be missing something here, but this seems to be an issue with Mexican drug lords not illegal immigration. Two different issues with only a small area of commonality.

    http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/arizonas-immigration-law-creates-pol


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    Sep 04, 2010 2:52 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidI don't know I can trust those guys crooksandliars.com.



    Now that's funny.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 04, 2010 2:39 PM GMT
    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is a typical fear mongering, right wing zealot that hopefully will get booted out of office this fall. This woman is ignorant beyond belief but as of late, that has become increasingly atypical of the GOP. Go figure.
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    Sep 04, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidArizona Governor Jan Brewer is a typical fear mongering, right wing zealot that hopefully will get booted out of office this fall. This woman is ignorant beyond belief but as of late, that has become increasingly atypical of the GOP. Go figure.


    Aww, sorry to disappoint you but she has the backing of the majority of people living in Arizona, including a great deal of latinos who all became citizens according to the law. know this may come as a huge surprise, but some people do actually believe in obeying the law!
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    Sep 04, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    Mocktwinkie, you need to stop putting stock in these polls because they only sample a very small percetage of people. As for Jan Brewer's supposed lead in the polls, you need to keep in mind that Arizona is a predominately red republican state. As for many of Arizona's Hispanics backing Brewer for reelection, I find that highly questionable and that is why most of these polls are far fetched. It has nothing to do with obeying the law.
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    Sep 04, 2010 5:38 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    roadbikeRob saidArizona Governor Jan Brewer is a typical fear mongering, right wing zealot that hopefully will get booted out of office this fall. This woman is ignorant beyond belief but as of late, that has become increasingly atypical of the GOP. Go figure.


    Aww, sorry to disappoint you but she has the backing of the majority of people living in Arizona, including a great deal of latinos who all became citizens according to the law. know this may come as a huge surprise, but some people do actually believe in obeying the law!

    Back in July, the Denver Post and a local TV station conducted a poll asking if Colorado voters would like to see a law similar to the Arizona law passed on Colorado. According to that poll, 61% of all likely voters were in favor, and 62% of all likely Hispanic voters were in favor. (Posted links before, but this time if anyone wants to see it, they can just google.)
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    Sep 04, 2010 8:07 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidShe admitted she wasn't saying it correctly. That is why she corrected herself and apologized. She know she was in embarrassed and that is why she was speechless. People taking her too seriously and misled when she made a speech.

    This what she was trying to say:
    "I misspoke, but you know, let me be clear, I am concerned about the border region because it continues to be reported in Mexico that there's a lot of violence going on and we don't want that going into Arizona."

    She said she was referring to beheadings and other cartel-related violence in Mexico in comments she made earlier this summer about decapitated bodies found in the state's southern region.


    When and where did she clarify this?

    And which "speechless" episode are you referring to? The one most people are thinking of as the speechless episode at the beginning of the debate? If so, I'm confused by your description.
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair said

    She was speechless when she was outside with bunch of dumb people asking her so many useless questions after the debate. I think she was clarified this before her speech then she got messed up.


    According to the CNN report linked below, "Brewer's office never clarified the basis for her beheading statement."

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/02/brewer-takes-heat-for-not-addressing-beheading-claim/

    She was asked a similar question more than a month ago and she refused to really answer it that time, too. If you haven't yet watched this news report, you might find it interesting.



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    Sep 05, 2010 8:57 AM GMT
    One of the reasons* given for justifying the AZ immigration law is an increase in violent crime, speculated to be due to drug cartels and illegal immigrants. Is there any data to support this claim?

    According to the FBI, crime across all categories - murder, rape, assault, burglary - reached a peak in 1993 and has been steadily declining since then. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_01.html. This table displays crime rates across the entire country. I haven't been searching very long, so I'm curious to see if anyone can produce data for AZ alone.

    *I know this is not the only reason people give for supporting this legislation, but for now I just want to focus on this one claim and examine the evidence to see if it supports this justification.
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    Sep 05, 2010 9:42 AM GMT
    tennsjock saidOne of the reasons* given for justifying the AZ immigration law is an increase in violent crime, speculated to be due to drug cartels and illegal immigrants. Is there any data to support this claim?

    According to the FBI, crime across all categories - murder, rape, assault, burglary - reached a peak in 1993 and has been steadily declining since then. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_01.html. This table displays crime rates across the entire country. I haven't been searching very long, so I'm curious to see if anyone can produce data for AZ alone.

    *I know this is not the only reason people give for supporting this legislation, but for now I just want to focus on this one claim and examine the evidence to see if it supports this justification.


    Watch the video in the post (from me) directly above yours. The answer to your question can be found there. The subject was also brought up by Brewer's Democratic opponent in the debate.
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    Sep 06, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair said
    Politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com????? I don't believe everything on CNN.


    I don't believe everything I read everywhere, but I hope you're not suggesting that relentlessly middle-of-the-road CNN has some sort of liberal bias.

    In any case, I can't find any reference suggesting that Brewer has clarified her statement. It seems unlikely that there wouldn't be one SOMEWHERE (perhaps on Fox, where she has appeared frequently) if she had.
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    Sep 06, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
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    tennsjock saidOne of the reasons* given for justifying the AZ immigration law is an increase in violent crime, speculated to be due to drug cartels and illegal immigrants. Is there any data to support this claim?

    According to the FBI, crime across all categories - murder, rape, assault, burglary - reached a peak in 1993 and has been steadily declining since then. http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_01.html. This table displays crime rates across the entire country. I haven't been searching very long, so I'm curious to see if anyone can produce data for AZ alone.

    *I know this is not the only reason people give for supporting this legislation, but for now I just want to focus on this one claim and examine the evidence to see if it supports this justification.


    Watch the video in the post (from me) directly above yours. The answer to your question can be found there. The subject was also brought up by Brewer's Democratic opponent in the debate.


    Thanks for the post! That pretty well answers my questions.
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    Sep 06, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
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    roadbikeRob saidArizona Governor Jan Brewer is a typical fear mongering, right wing zealot that hopefully will get booted out of office this fall. This woman is ignorant beyond belief but as of late, that has become increasingly atypical of the GOP. Go figure.


    Aww, sorry to disappoint you but she has the backing of the majority of people living in Arizona, including a great deal of latinos who all became citizens according to the law. know this may come as a huge surprise, but some people do actually believe in obeying the law!


    It takes a real leader to do what she did. Yes her performance was embarrassing the other night, but who cares. Its not everyday that a politician acts in the best interest of the people and she does have the backing of the majority of people in AZ, in fact until she signed that law she was in trouble for reelection, Now she is heavily favored for reelection and will be one of the 30+ GOP Governors elected this fall.
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    Sep 07, 2010 5:41 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    roadbikeRob saidArizona Governor Jan Brewer is a typical fear mongering, right wing zealot that hopefully will get booted out of office this fall. This woman is ignorant beyond belief but as of late, that has become increasingly atypical of the GOP. Go figure.


    Aww, sorry to disappoint you but she has the backing of the majority of people living in Arizona, including a great deal of latinos who all became citizens according to the law. know this may come as a huge surprise, but some people do actually believe in obeying the law!



    LMAO!
    Passing an UNCONSTITUTIONAL law is NOT "obeying the law".

    And do you "believe in" telling the truth?
    Or is LYING, like Brewer did, okay with you?