Antidepressants

  • alphatop

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    Sep 03, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
    After major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis. I've been medicated ever since, and started to take Zoloft 100mg (which is Serbian name for amazing Prozac). My shrink (Russian, btw), says that I should be taking them one year, since I've tried to commit suicide ( Jukio Mishima, Japanese writer and samurai who committed harakiri, ritual suicide by cutting his guts with a sword and than his soldier beheaded him, as a touching end ceremony of how real jocks ( or samurai ) ended his life. Needless to say, I am writer, among other things, and Mishima is my hero, among other anti-heroes ).
    I also moved my ass in Yunnan province in southern China, in the eternal spring city Kunming, the capital, with the most amazing scenery ever. So, no more winter, depression and shit. I just LOVE Sunshine...
    When should I stop taking those meds? I am into Chinese medicine and martial arts, and those guys don't have pills for every disorder, like Westerners do...And I don't live in the West anymore...
  • turbid2wenty

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    Sep 03, 2010 10:41 AM GMT
    First and foremost, ask your doctor -- he/she can't force you to stay on the meds, even if it's just because you don't want to be on them.

    That said, having been on an SSRI before, you really do not want to just stop taking it. There's something called discontinuation syndrome, and it isn't fun. Check this out: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016%2FS0006-3223%2898%2900126-7.

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    Sep 03, 2010 10:56 AM GMT
    oldboy saidAfter major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis. I've been medicated ever since, and started to take Zoloft 100mg (which is Serbian name for amazing Prozac). My shrink (Russian, btw), says that I should be taking them one year, since I've tried to commit suicide ( Jukio Mishima, Japanese writer and samurai who committed harakiri, ritual suicide by cutting his guts with a sword and than his soldier beheaded him, as a touching end ceremony of how real jocks ( or samurai ) ended his life. Needless to say, I am writer, among other things, and Mishima is my hero, among other anti-heroes ).
    I also moved my ass in Yunnan province in southern China, in the eternal spring city Kunming, the capital, with the most amazing scenery ever. So, no more winter, depression and shit. I just LOVE Sunshine...
    When should I stop taking those meds? I am into Chinese medicine and martial arts, and those guys don't have pills for every disorder, like Westerners do...And I don't live in the West anymore...


    Sadness caused by lack of light and depressing scenery affects me too, so it's possible you don't need them anymore.

    One point: chinese medicine does take a more wholistic view, which is good, but those herbs are no less powerful drugs than what you get from a western pharmacy.
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    Sep 03, 2010 11:09 AM GMT


    Wrong place to be asking.

    You need to speak to your doctor, once you're taking this medication, do not stop unless it's in a very controlled way.

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    Sep 03, 2010 11:41 AM GMT
    oldboy saidAfter major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis. I've been medicated ever since, and started to take Zoloft 100mg (which is Serbian name for amazing Prozac). My shrink (Russian, btw), says that I should be taking them one year, since I've tried to commit suicide ( Jukio Mishima, Japanese writer and samurai who committed harakiri, ritual suicide by cutting his guts with a sword and than his soldier beheaded him, as a touching end ceremony of how real jocks ( or samurai ) ended his life. Needless to say, I am writer, among other things, and Mishima is my hero, among other anti-heroes ).
    I also moved my ass in Yunnan province in southern China, in the eternal spring city Kunming, the capital, with the most amazing scenery ever. So, no more winter, depression and shit. I just LOVE Sunshine...
    When should I stop taking those meds? I am into Chinese medicine and martial arts, and those guys don't have pills for every disorder, like Westerners do...And I don't live in the West anymore...


    O, I heard there are Chinese acupunctural remedies against depression and mood disorders a well, have you looked??

    When I was really depressed, I thought about harakiri myself, it seemed to me the only honourable way to go... I dreamt about it ALOT... constantly would see my gusts spill out of me onto the floor, unfortunately, int the dream, I expected relief, instead, I still felt sadness... might be a sign suicide really isnt a way out

    On another note, I know someone who did commit suicide, in another dream he came and talked to me and said it wasnt a solution icon_sad.gif Though it seemed like one at the time
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    Sep 03, 2010 1:31 PM GMT
    "After major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis."

    "When should I stop taking those meds? I am into Chinese medicine and martial arts, and those guys don't have pills for every disorder, like Westerners do...And I don't live in the West anymore..."

    Don't play with your meds!

    -Doug
  • alphatop

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    Sep 03, 2010 1:36 PM GMT
    Guys, thank a bunch! I appreciate it. Of course, the decision is mine, but thanks again for different insights.
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    Sep 03, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
    Do NOT stop taking your meds with discussing it with your doctor first. If you stop taking your meds all at once you will get extremely sick. You will be in extreme pain if you do this. When you are ready to stop the meds you will need to SLOWLY taper off under your doctor's supervision. It can take weeks or even months to come off some anti depressants without getting sick.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Sep 03, 2010 3:34 PM GMT
    oldboy saidAfter major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis. I've been medicated ever since, and started to take Zoloft 100mg (which is Serbian name for amazing Prozac). My shrink (Russian, btw), says that I should be taking them one year, since I've tried to commit suicide ( Jukio Mishima, Japanese writer and samurai who committed harakiri, ritual suicide by cutting his guts with a sword and than his soldier beheaded him, as a touching end ceremony of how real jocks ( or samurai ) ended his life. Needless to say, I am writer, among other things, and Mishima is my hero, among other anti-heroes ).
    I also moved my ass in Yunnan province in southern China, in the eternal spring city Kunming, the capital, with the most amazing scenery ever. So, no more winter, depression and shit. I just LOVE Sunshine...
    When should I stop taking those meds? I am into Chinese medicine and martial arts, and those guys don't have pills for every disorder, like Westerners do...And I don't live in the West anymore...


    I'm on Cymbalta/Zyprexa. Zoloft kept me awake for a week straight, I went pretty nuts.

    The way I see it...people like us are kind of stuck on these meds.

    Remember the cycles? They keep happening, and will continue to happen, for the rest of your life. My biggest problem is that I hated the idea of being chained to a pill, so when I'd be at the peak of my upswing and it had lasted for a while I would stop taking my meds, and then everything just came crashing down. So now I take them faithfully, every day, and will probably continue to do so for the rest of my life.

    I'd rather take a pill for the rest of my life than keep going through this. It fucking sucks, and I miss my happy-go-lucky self so much sometimes...but I'm on the mend, and he's coming back. I can see the changes in my outlook and the way I interact with people, and I'm starting to be happy again.

    I don't want to go back, but it's SO easy to think you've got it licked when you're in the middle of an upswing, and the reality is that you will never have this 'licked'. So my recommendation....don't stop taking your meds. You don't need to prove anything to anyone.
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    Sep 03, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
    oldboy saidAfter major depression, I have been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and heavy psychosis. I've been medicated ever since, and started to take Zoloft 100mg (which is Serbian name for amazing Prozac).


    Prozac (fluoxetine) and Zoloft (sertraline) are both SSRI's but they are different medications. They are both used to treat major depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
  • Geoedward

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    Sep 03, 2010 3:50 PM GMT
    fastfreddie is absolutely correct.
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    Sep 03, 2010 4:09 PM GMT
    I know it's been said already, but talk to your Dr. It can be very dangerous to suddenly stop taking certain medications.
  • Sparkycat

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    Sep 03, 2010 8:03 PM GMT
    You need a new doctor. If you are bipolar and psychotic you need meds intended to treat those disorders. An SSRI antidepressant is not going to do that. No, I'm not a doctor. Just giving my opinion.
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    Sep 03, 2010 8:19 PM GMT
    The number one reason why people relapse into depression is that they decide to go off of your medication. Have all your issues been dealt with? Have you seen a therapist since you've moved to China?

    Parasuicide is a very serious subjuct and should not be brushed off lightly without firt looking at the evidence. How long have you been stable?

    Perhaps you psycharitrist will slowly decrease your dosage so that you may see how it effects you. Do NOT go off of your medication without first consulting your doctor--it matters not if you live in China or the West.

    Many drugs to not work on everyone & some people are uneffected by medications altogether. However, Eastern treatments have not been supported by evidence--the placebo effect keeps these therapies alive... nothing more.
  • Abc123456

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    Sep 03, 2010 8:26 PM GMT
    You don't get on the highway, hammer your car to 110 km/hour and then take your foot off the gas, do you?

    It would make sense that your uplifted mood is because of your meds...if your doctor said a year, then take them for a year. If you're thinking about going off, he/she is the person to talk to, not the plethora of average Joes on the web.
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    Sep 03, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
    I love Yukio Mishima. I'm depressed. I was a cutter. I ended up with thirty stiches on my arm, and the scars are always going to be there. Was under meds for half a year, until my idiot doctor decided to prescribe the wrong ones, sending me into a week of extreme insomnia and parkinsonian movements (extrapyramidal symptoms, to be exact).

    BUT STOPPING IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. And "herbs" and acupuncture are no solution a very real problem. They can help, sure, but as the great Tim Minchin says, "You know what they can alternative medicine that's been proved to work? MEDICINE."

    Improving your quality of life is a good start. Talk to your doctor about wanting to wean off the meds. But stopping cold turkey and getting a chinese doctor to give you herbal supplements laced with god-knows-what is not a solution.

    Good luck, man.
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    Sep 03, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    mujun saidI love Yukio Mishima. I'm depressed. I was a cutter. I ended up with thirty stiches on my arm, and the scars are always going to be there. Was under meds for half a year, until my idiot doctor decided to prescribe the wrong ones, sending me into a week of extreme insomnia and parkinsonian movements (extrapyramidal symptoms, to be exact).

    BUT STOPPING IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. And "herbs" and acupuncture are no solution a very real problem. They can help, sure, but as the great Tim Minchin says, "You know what they can alternative medicine that's been proved to work? MEDICINE."

    Improving your quality of life is a good start. Talk to your doctor about wanting to wean off the meds. But stopping cold turkey and getting a chinese doctor to give you herbal supplements laced with god-knows-what is not a solution.

    Good luck, man.


    Excellant and agree.

    I take my little pill every morning. small price to pay to keep the depression away. I just think of it as my happy pill.
  • alphatop

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    Sep 04, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    Thank u, guys, this means a world to me...Thank u all again. I have another issue. I wasn't much of a drinker, until recently. I drink almost every day ( Serbian rakija, which is something like Russian vodka, or Mexican tequila ), but I am never drunk. I drink like 5-10 small tequila glasses of rakija,daily and I am taking my meds every morning. Now, I know that I shouldn't be combining Zoloft and rakija, but I don't feel bad. On the contrary, I feel HIGH all the times, and I feel great. I never had this much sex in my life, people love me, I love everyone, I am in the middle of my first ( to be published) book, very creative and extremely positive.
    Is this wrong? Should I stop drinking while on meds?
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    Oct 21, 2011 5:44 AM GMT
    antonomad saidThank u, guys, this means a world to me...Thank u all again. I have another issue. I wasn't much of a drinker, until recently. I drink almost every day ( Serbian rakija, which is something like Russian vodka, or Mexican tequila ), but I am never drunk. I drink like 5-10 small tequila glasses of rakija,daily and I am taking my meds every morning. Now, I know that I shouldn't be combining Zoloft and rakija, but I don't feel bad. On the contrary, I feel HIGH all the times, and I feel great. I never had this much sex in my life, people love me, I love everyone, I am in the middle of my first ( to be published) book, very creative and extremely positive.
    Is this wrong? Should I stop drinking while on meds?
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    Yes.. You shouldn't drink while on them. It can effect how they work. I know of some who drink that take anti psychotic's. I wouldn't recommend it.
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    Oct 24, 2011 9:43 PM GMT
    depends on what your drinking...lol... could help!
    get a shrink... they can make better reccomendations than a GP, and try to figure out what is going on in the very goodlooking head of yours...
    good luck, as a fellow depressor, i know i wnat to fuck with my meds all the time... but i end up paying... and please dont try sucide again.... it only hurts the survivors... and they love you.. icon_lol.gif