Palin .... Unplugged

  • GQjock

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    Sep 04, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    The Truth is fanally coming out that everything you'd heard about Palin is actually true

    There is a New piece on her in Vanity Fair that paints a very disturbing picture of manipulation and Vindictiveness in this woman
    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010

    In the profile, Gross paints Palin as an abusive, retaliatory figure with an extreme ability to lie.

    "This is a person for whom there is no topic too small to lie about," he said. "She lies about everything."

    Asked about Palin's political future, Gross said it depends on what the media lets her get away with.



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    Sep 04, 2010 1:04 AM GMT
    wikipediaRessentiment is a sense of hostility directed at that which one identifies as the cause of one's frustration, that is, an assignment of blame for one's frustration. The sense of weakness or inferiority and perhaps jealousy in the face of the "cause" generates a rejecting/justifying value system, or morality, which attacks or denies the perceived source of one's frustration. The ego creates an enemy in order to insulate itself from culpability.
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    Jean-Paul Sartre used the term bad faith to describe a highly similar phenomenon of blaming one's own failure on external factors and therefore denying responsibility for oneself. The major difference between the two is that Sartre presupposed the existence of free will, whereas Nietzsche denied it - where Sartre's "bad faith" was the denial of one's full capabilities, Nietzsche's "ressentiment" was a mode of revenge directed against a source of suffering.
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    Sep 04, 2010 1:10 AM GMT
    vanity fairThen, just as suddenly, her temper would be gone. Palin would apologize and promise to be nicer. Within hours, she would be screaming again. At the end of one long day, when Palin was mid-tirade, a campaign aide remembers thinking, “You were an angel all night. Now you’re a devil. Where did this come from?”


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    Sep 04, 2010 1:33 AM GMT
    In fairness, I have worked with a few dozen candidates and most of them are horrible man-children when campaigning. It is tough work. You work from 6 in the morning until 3 at night every day for months. You never see your family. You have almost no time for exercise or leisure. You eat terrible, terrible food. It would turn Jesus Christ into a spiteful bitch.

    The reason all candidates are not dragged through the media for being awful people is that many of them are, in fact, not awful people. A little "Thanks Steve for getting me my pizza and fixing my jacket with a stapler that night" at the end of the campaign makes up for months of "Steve, you incompetent prick, where is my pizza and... shit... my jacket is ripped!"

    From all accounts Palin has just been a terrible, back-stabbing opportunist and Vanity Fair has been sure to point that out half a dozen times since she was birthed onto the national scene.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 04, 2010 1:49 AM GMT
    I wish the Palin woman was "unplugged" at some point in time.

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    Sep 04, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    Let’s not forget the liberal media, which some of you folks here seem to love, tried to dig up everything they could on Palin, including trying to get her gynecological records. But the same media were hands off to Obama’s various Chicago relationships, and I think his transcripts from Columbia, Occidental, and Harvard have never been made public, to the media’s silence. If I’m wrong on the transcripts and they have been made public, I would be willing to stand corrected. (BTW – We know Bush Jr.’s and Kerry’s GPA from Yale. Do we know Obama’s?)
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    Sep 04, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media,



    After reading that, I yawned and dismissed the rest of the thought....

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    Sep 04, 2010 2:26 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media,



    After reading that, I yawned and dismissed the rest of the thought....

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    Fine, go ahead and dismiss it and deny it. Isn't that what you guys always do?
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    Sep 04, 2010 2:29 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media, which some of you folks here seem to love, tried to dig up everything they could on Palin, including trying to get her gynecological records. But the same media were hands off to Obama’s various Chicago relationships, and I think his transcripts from Columbia, Occidental, and Harvard have never been made public, to the media’s silence. If I’m wrong on the transcripts and they have been made public, I would be willing to stand corrected. (BTW – We know Bush Jr.’s and Kerry’s GPA from Yale. Do we know Obama’s?)


    The question is: Does it matter?
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    Sep 04, 2010 2:36 AM GMT
    creature said
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media, which some of you folks here seem to love, tried to dig up everything they could on Palin, including trying to get her gynecological records. But the same media were hands off to Obama’s various Chicago relationships, and I think his transcripts from Columbia, Occidental, and Harvard have never been made public, to the media’s silence. If I’m wrong on the transcripts and they have been made public, I would be willing to stand corrected. (BTW – We know Bush Jr.’s and Kerry’s GPA from Yale. Do we know Obama’s?)


    The question is: Does it matter?

    Amazing to ask the question. The media and the posters to this thread go into a feeding frenzy about Palin, a politically active, but still private citizen. But the media silence and the university records apparently hidden from the public regarding the President, don't seem to matter. Just an interesting contrast.
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    Sep 04, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    Why on earth should Obama's transcripts be made public? We know he graduated in the top 10% from Harvard law school (but not the top 5%) --- so he did well enough. Beyond that, who cares??

    We don't release transcripts to the public for any of our students---nor should we. They are for the student to present to prospective graduate schools and employers---it is their degree certificate that is a matter of public record and not their transcript.

    With equal seriousness, I don't see why we would need to see Sarah Palin's or John McCain's or George Bush's college transcripts either. We might be interested in their major, and whether they did exceptionally well or not, but beyond that there's nothing in a college transcript to tell you about their policies.
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    Sep 04, 2010 2:47 AM GMT
    Palin may be a private citizen, but she is a public figure. Or haven't you noticed? Her book. Her endorsements of politicians. She has a comment for nearly every news item. If there is a media frenzy, it's only because Palin is luring them with bait -- herself.

    Obama's university records don't matter. What matters is what he does now.
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    Sep 04, 2010 3:00 AM GMT
    I think this will probably be my final points here:

    1) How do we know what pct he graduated if his records are hidden?

    2) The universities would never be expected to release any information. Would be up to the individual.

    3) There is an irony behind the comment that the records do not matter. Specifically in the context of this thread, Palin's past actions during the campaign seem to matter today, but Obama's past university records (grades and any other academic issues) do not matter. Is he really what he claims to be?
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    Sep 04, 2010 4:06 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidI think this will probably be my final points here:

    1) How do we know what pct he graduated if his records are hidden?

    2) The universities would never be expected to release any information. Would be up to the individual.

    3) There is an irony behind the comment that the records do not matter. Specifically in the context of this thread, Palin's past actions during the campaign seem to matter today, but Obama's past university records (grades and any other academic issues) do not matter. Is he really what he claims to be?


    What is your point? Did you even read the article? No, you didn't. Instead you want to make this about the great big lie that is Obama's education. Yes, it is all true. He never attended Harvard. He graduated Magna Cum Laude from a Madrassa, right?

    If you would like to participate in a conversation about the article please read the article.
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    Sep 04, 2010 4:21 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidI think this will probably be my final points here:

    1) How do we know what pct he graduated if his records are hidden?

    2) The universities would never be expected to release any information. Would be up to the individual.

    3) There is an irony behind the comment that the records do not matter. Specifically in the context of this thread, Palin's past actions during the campaign seem to matter today, but Obama's past university records (grades and any other academic issues) do not matter. Is he really what he claims to be?


    Oh jeez. I'll make this easy on you.

    1) It is very common for those who graduate in the top percentages of their class to be noted as such during the graduation ceremony. My boyfriend graduated cum laude and it was note in the yearbook.

    2) Degrees, like licenses, are public to prevent fraud.

    3) Obama's behavior throughout the campaign was widely reported on. There was a New York Times bestseller called "Game Change" that went into great detail about all the stuff that Obama - and all the other contenders - including the unflattering stuff. What is sad is that you can't accept that Obama, imperfect as he is, is probably actually a very nice, stand up guy.
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    Sep 04, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media


    Please read this book. It may surprise you.

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    Here's the Amazon link:
    http://www.amazon.com/What-Liberal-Media-Truth-About/dp/0465001769

    The book is full of fun facts like a study documenting that the majority of print media journalists and publishers voted for Dubya in his first election. And there are conversations with Republican strategists who admit that there's very little that's liberal about the media but that it's a wonderful political strategy.

    Really, anybody who has worked in media during the last 10 years or more can tell you that there ain't much liberal about it.

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    Sep 04, 2010 5:54 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidLet’s not forget the liberal media, which some of you folks here seem to love, tried to dig up everything they could on Palin, including trying to get her gynecological records. But the same media were hands off to Obama’s various Chicago relationships, and I think his transcripts from Columbia, Occidental, and Harvard have never been made public, to the media’s silence. If I’m wrong on the transcripts and they have been made public, I would be willing to stand corrected. (BTW – We know Bush Jr.’s and Kerry’s GPA from Yale. Do we know Obama’s?)



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    *Sigh Don't you ever get tired of not using your Jehovah given brain?

    When something is presented to you Over and Over again from multiple Credible sources .... That means NOT FOX News
    Which HAS been shown to present False News instead of the "LIBERAL" media
    Don't you say to yourself? .... Hmmm mebbe she is the vindictive media seeking whore everyone thinks she is
    or do you reach for the Birther Koolaid to try to calm the synaptic somersaulting you need to do to try to bend reality to your liking

    I say it's B
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    Sep 04, 2010 7:01 AM GMT
    ROFLMAO@"liberal media"
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    Sep 04, 2010 10:18 AM GMT
    I think the real question is: Is the free world ready to be led by a politician that has the temper, knowledge, attention span, and vindictiveness of a child, who practises a brand of ressentiment-politics that is reactive but never constructive? The answer may very well be yes.
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    Sep 04, 2010 11:23 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidI think the real question is: Is the free world ready to be led by a politician that has the temper, knowledge, attention span, and vindictiveness of a child, who practises a brand of ressentiment-politics that is reactive but never constructive? The answer may very well be yes.


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  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 04, 2010 2:24 PM GMT
    Not only should Sarah Palin be unplugged and discredited but the entire extremist right wing tea bagger movement should suffer the same damaging fate. I can't stand those stupid tea baggers. icon_mad.gif
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    Sep 04, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    q1w2e3 saidI think the real question is: Is the free world ready to be led by a politician that has the temper, knowledge, attention span, and vindictiveness of a child, who practises a brand of ressentiment-politics that is reactive but never constructive? The answer may very well be yes.


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    Just a minute here...Bush may be stupid and, as Blair put it, "viewed the world with immense simplicity," but he was not malicious in person. In fact,

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20015382-503544.html"You might not agree with him, but if you're a voter, you would never think you would be uncomfortable or feel inadequate if you met him socially," Blair wrote. "You would think he would be nice and easy with you. And you'd be right."


    It would actually be nicer if his attention span on the WMD was a little less unwavering.