Psychotic nerve, oh how I hate thee...

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    Sep 04, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
    Yeah, my sciatic nerve went psychotic last weekend. Throughout the week I thought it was a really bad pulled muscle because it was starting to get better with stretching and lots of water. Then yesterday it returned with a vengeance, and again today. I can barely even walk, and it hurts like hell to site down (standing to type this). And I have to spend four hours non-stop in a little cramped one-seat plane.

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    Sep 04, 2010 1:13 PM GMT
    Yeah I had that pain for two years, and it really sucked.

    Naproxen helped, until the sodium in it was too much for my blood pressure; then I switched to a potassium based Voltaren-XR.
    The NSAIDs helped me to not feel the pain which probably changed the muscles tightening response (stopped pinching of the sciatic nerve) as sometimes letting the pain exist unmedicated can make your muscles react in a way that tightens them further pinching the nerve.

    I took pills for two years and my doctor offerred nothing other than pills.

    I walked on a treadmill and did stability ball exercises including stretching of the piriformis muscle regularly. (If numbness occurs after don't do it anymore and see a doctor, or chiropractor, but if numbness does not occur it may take pressure off the sciatic nerve and release the pain.

    I saw a Chiropractor and within a month I was off the Voltaren and full recovered.

    Sciatica is literally a pain in the ass!
    Good Luck
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    Sep 04, 2010 3:45 PM GMT

    Ok so they don't make you young guys like they use to.... ugh icon_eek.gif

    Your part of the world has the largest Sport Medicine schools and lots of information as in Sports Med Magazines. These rags have lots of information on all types of injuries.

    I am not sure there is a preferred method to treating back injuries. In March I blew a back muscle jumping trampoline and was in bed for a week on ice. I couldn't get up even when frozen. Slowly started to move after that week and stayed on ice for 6 weeks. I did get back to the gym in the second week and back on tramp after 8 weeks. I still ice once or twice a week especially after squats but all is well.

    I know your back injury sucks but it will get better just hang in there and learn as much as you can on the different treatment techniques and try the ones that make sense.
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    Sep 04, 2010 3:58 PM GMT
    agreeing with xuaerb, go see a chiropractor pronto

    Form what I remember, your sciatic nerve is suffering from pressure being put on it... his happened often with my ulnar nerve (the nerve that supplies the pinky) due to several hours of playing guitar and my right inside elbow resting on the body, a chiropractor should be able to release that tension

    Other systems that are meant t releive tension on nerves include osteopathy and thai massage, though if the pain is that bad I wouldnt go for a thai massage just yet, they dont have the ind-depth medical knowledge that a chiropractor or an osteopath has
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    Sep 04, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidYeah, my sciatic nerve went psychotic last weekend. Throughout the week I thought it was a really bad pulled muscle because it was starting to get better with stretching and lots of water. Then yesterday it returned with a vengeance, and again today. I can barely even walk, and it hurts like hell to site down (standing to type this). And I have to spend four hours non-stop in a little cramped one-seat plane.

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    Man, I feel for ya...injured mine doing squats last Thanksgiving...just now feeling close to 100%.
    Saw the Dr...helped him make his boat payment I'm sure.
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    Sep 04, 2010 6:56 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidYeah, my sciatic nerve went psychotic last weekend. Throughout the week I thought it was a really bad pulled muscle because it was starting to get better with stretching and lots of water. Then yesterday it returned with a vengeance, and again today. I can barely even walk, and it hurts like hell to site down (standing to type this). And I have to spend four hours non-stop in a little cramped one-seat plane.

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    I hear that happens to pregnant chicks alot too lol
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    Sep 04, 2010 8:57 PM GMT
    SCIATICA ! SCIATICA ! SCIATICA !

    Oh.
    Sorry.
    I have similar back problems.
    Put a frozen bag of peas on it.
    It works wonders.
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    Sep 04, 2010 9:01 PM GMT
    yoga yoga yoga.



    unless you have a disc problem.
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    Sep 04, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
    Ouch...
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    Sep 05, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
    Paul...
    1. Get a tennis ball.
    2. Get on the floor.
    3. Put the tennis ball between your glute and the floor.
    4. Work the tennis ball into your glute (avoid losing ball in hole).
    5. Repeat until you work the kink out of that muscle and nerve.

    It works. Try it.
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    Sep 05, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
    Thanks guys. I'll try a few of those techniques today. No chiropractors are open on weekends, and tomorrow is a holiday, so Tuesday will be the soonest time. Until then, I'm "supposed" to be working today and tomorrow, but already called the boss and told her about my condition. It just really sucks that today and tomorrow are the last two days of this summer contract, so the client is going to be hella pissed. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:06 PM GMT
    Paul: I have degenerative disc disease, especially of the L4-5 vertebrae, that sometimes causes nerve pinching. Once that happens the back muscles go into spasm, which pull on the spine and only make it worse.

    The doctor's sometimes give me both pain pills (the "good" stuff icon_wink.gif ) along with muscle relaxers, to break the cycle. But before I get to that unwanted point I sometimes do this:

    I take as much ibuprofen as I can tolerate, which has anti-inflammatory properties. And I apply a heating pad. I bought a special one just for the lower back that velcros on like a wide belt, that I can wear (@ Walgreen's). I keep it on all round the house, plugging it in different rooms, using an extension cord if needed.

    The heat helps to relax the muscles and break the cycle, at least for me. I avoid cold packs, because they're best with swelling, and can cause the muscles to contract, which is what I don't want. There are also chemically-heated back wraps you can buy, but if your problem is chronic the electric pad is cheaper in the long run, if you can disregard the cord inconvenience.
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidDang Paul, I sure you get better soon! I've known a few people with this disorder and one took a cortisone shot to relieve the pain...icon_eek.gif
    I think I'd be tempted to try Alan's tennis ball treatment.. anything to help relieve the pain.
    Thanks. Yeah, that's the one I'm going to try.
    Now if I can only sit down in the car to drive to the store...sitting is excruciating right now.
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
    Sorry Paul! icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
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    TheGuyNextDoor saidDang Paul, I sure you get better soon! I've known a few people with this disorder and one took a cortisone shot to relieve the pain...icon_eek.gif
    I think I'd be tempted to try Alan's tennis ball treatment.. anything to help relieve the pain.
    Thanks. Yeah, that's the one I'm going to try.
    Now if I can only sit down in the car to drive to the store...sitting is excruciating right now.

    The VA twice gave me what I think is bring mentioned here, a 3-chemical "cocktail" that included cortisone. But it was quite elaborate, because the hypodermic had to go between the vertebrae, right next to the spinal cord, a somewhat touchy procedure that the VA considered a surgical operation.

    I was immobilized on an X-ray table but conscious and locally anesthetized. A fluoroscope was viewing me in real time, and technicians were sliding X-ray plates under the table every few seconds, then feeding the developed sheets in a steady stream to the doctors doing the procedure. They had quite the assembly line going on, and took about 30 minutes as I recall.

    They told me my chances for experiencing a lessening of my back pain were about 80%, which would last roughly 12 to 18 months. And that's what happened. I was good for a year-and-a-half, and then the pain returned. They performed the same procedure a second time, but that time I got no relief. The VA doctors then told me their protocol was not to attempt a third time following a second failure. I've had nothing like that again since 1997.
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:39 PM GMT
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    paulflexes said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidDang Paul, I sure you get better soon! I've known a few people with this disorder and one took a cortisone shot to relieve the pain...icon_eek.gif
    I think I'd be tempted to try Alan's tennis ball treatment.. anything to help relieve the pain.
    Thanks. Yeah, that's the one I'm going to try.
    Now if I can only sit down in the car to drive to the store...sitting is excruciating right now.

    The VA twice gave me what I think is mentioned here, a 3-chemical "cocktail" that included cortisone. But it was quite elaborate, because the hypodermic had to go between the vertebrae, right next to the spinal cord, a somewhat touchy procedure that the VA considered a surgical operation.

    I was immobilized on an X-ray table but conscious and locally anesthetized. A fluoroscope was viewing me in real time, and technicians were sliding X-ray plates under the table every few seconds, then feeding the developed sheets in a steady stream to the doctors doing the procedure. They had quite the assembly line going on, and took about 30 minutes as I recall.

    They told me my chances for experiencing a lessening of my back pain were about 80%, which would last roughly 12 to 18 months. And that's what happened. I was good for a year-and-a-half, and then the pain returned. They performed the same procedure a second time, but that time I got no relief. The VA doctors then told me their protocol was not to attempt a third time following a second failure. I've had nothing like that since 1997.
    Wow, I sure hope like fuck that's not what I have to go through. That would mean losing my entire career. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 05, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidWow, I sure hope like fuck that's not what I have to go through. That would mean losing my entire career. icon_sad.gif

    You might get relief with traction, possibly spine manipulation, and other approaches, some mentioned above. Only a specialist can tell you for sure how serious & permanent this is. I realize as a pilot the FAA limits what kinds of pain relievers and other meds you can take. Over-the-counter ibuprofen works best for me, with occasional heat as I wrote above.

    My last procedure was in early 1997, and the doctors said I had to give-up motorcycling. They claimed an accident could leave me paralyzed. So I sold my bike. Then promptly went nuts, because that was MY life, if not career.

    After a few months I'd had enough. During a vacation down here to Fort Lauderdale I bought a new bike, and promptly rode it solo back to my home in Seattle, 4700 miles. Less than a month later I did 5000 miles through Canada on it. I simply refused to be crippled like that. I taught myself how to recognize the early signs of back trouble, how to otherwise baby it, and walk with a cane (that you've seen).

    It's also helped that I seem to get some unintended back relief from one of my epilepsy meds, I think the main reason I'm doing so relatively well all these years later. But I don't know if a doctor would prescribe this non-approved med use in your case, nor if an epilepsy med would raise eyebrows with the FAA.

    Consider the heat therapy I mentioned above, and lie flat on your back on your bed. BTW, what's the condition of your mattress? My back is very sensitive to the mattress I use, and a worn one kills me.
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    Sep 05, 2010 7:10 PM GMT
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    Consider the heat therapy I mentioned above, and lie flat on your back on your bed. BTW, what's the condition of your mattress? My back is very sensitive to the mattress I use, and a worn one kills me.
    I'm wearing my neoprene belt now...that's keeping my back muscles warm, and helping a tiny bit with the pain. I also took 3 arthritis strength BC powders, but that did nothing but make me feel queezy and light-headed.

    As far as the FAA goes, they would definitely raise an eyebrow at epilepsy meds, or anything else that affects the central nervous system for pain relief.

    I think my best bet is going to be just chalking this week up as a loss, wait till Tuesday, go to a chiropractor for x-rays and adjustment, and probably pay for another night or two in the hotel room out of my own pocket since I "was" supposed to come home Tuesday. Sucks that I made so much money this summer, and now it's going to be lost in one week. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 05, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Art_Deco said
    It's also helped that I seem to get some unintended back relief from one of my epilepsy meds, I think the main reason I'm doing so relatively well all these years later. But I don't know if a doctor would prescribe this non-approved med use in your case, nor if an epilepsy med would raise eyebrows with the FAA.


    Oh yes, epilepsy medications are often prescribed for sciatica or other neuropathic pain. I have been prescribed Neurontin (gabapentin) by more than one practitioner for pain. It is standard.
    I wouldn't be able to do that and keep my job.
    I'll probably just take a couple weeks off once I get back home...still sucks to go without pay, but that beats losing my medical certificate.