Pipe dream

  • Import

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    Sep 05, 2010 1:12 AM GMT
    Un-biased opinions are welcome:


    So, I don't know how many people here remember but I made a thread a while back about my boyfriend and how he and I wanted to travel, etc.

    Well, his latest pipe dream is now making money off a vampire website icon_rolleyes.gif

    With the popularity of the twilight series and other vampire related things.. He essentially wants to sell "vampire awareness wrist bands" similar to those "live strong" wrist bands.

    So he's going to start a website about how
    vampires deserve equal rights and the same recognition under the law that us humans enjoy.

    Basically, by wearing one of these "vampire awareness" wrist bands u are supporting equal rights for vampires..

    He's 23 years old and wants to become "virally famous" and makes $20,000 a month off these things.

    I don't want to sound like Debbie downer over here, but I just don't think it's a good idea... I think the whole thing is stupid. I don't think he's going to make much if any money off vampire wrist bands..

    I suggested since he works full time at a university that he take some classes toward his degree, but the guy does not want to pick up a book and study...


    This is not the first time he's had some dream-like idea where he's going to make it big.

    What do u guys think? Am I being overly critical? Or is this a legit good idea?
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    Sep 05, 2010 2:28 AM GMT
    it doesn't take a lot of time to sell vampire wristbands... its kind of cute, actually.. but my point is, he could sell them and take classes at uni. hell, i work 32 hours a week and take classes, so he can make those things and take classes too ;)
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    Sep 05, 2010 3:06 AM GMT
    Import said

    He's 23 years old and wants to become "virally famous" and makes $20,000 a month off these things.



    If he makes $20,000 a month off it and it doesn't hurt anybody.....what are you complaining about? Sign me up for $20,000 a month!
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    Sep 05, 2010 3:11 AM GMT
    Shortnsexystud said
    Import said

    He's 23 years old and wants to become "virally famous" and makes $20,000 a month off these things.



    If he makes $20,000 a month off it and it doesn't hurt anybody.....what are you complaining about? Sign me up for $20,000 a month!


    I'm not complaining, I just don't think realistically it's gonna be happen icon_lol.gif


    Shiiiit, I hope it happens but at the end of the dAy I'm not gonna count on it.
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    Sep 05, 2010 3:24 AM GMT
    I have my doubts about it also as he seems to be getting in on this vampire craze kind of late. Fads come and go a lot quicker than they once did. But I do have to say, they are just cheap rubber bracelets, so how big could his investment into this dream really be? So I say don't stand in the way of this young entrepreneur. Maybe he will prove us doubters wrong. If he doesn't, it is not something that will put him into debt for years to come.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 05, 2010 3:39 AM GMT
    Interesting.
    Just the other day I was noticing that almost NOBODY wears an awareness wristband anymore.
    They were wildly popular for about 5 minutes.
    It looks like your friend missed the boat...
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Sep 05, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    I think the first thing he should have done was have you sign a non-disclose agreement when telling you his concept!

    A pipe-dreamer, much like a balloon, needs an anchor. Not a pin. A good anchor is one that plans and provides a stable grounding force, keep thoughts of more realistic outcomes to themselves unless mutual holdings are at risk (shared funds, house, children, animals, etc.) all while allowing the balloon to drift sufficiently upwards as is a balloon's want. Being careful not to prick it purposefully, and making sure that it's tethered to the anchor, so it doesn't burst by going too high on its own.

    Most pipe-dreamers eventually find some small reward, sufficient to either quell the desire, or give them reason to dream bigger the next time. The danger is of growing disillusioned and bitter after all comes to naught. So you have to decide whether this is the pattern or if he's just crazy enough to maybe - just maybe - one day hit on something that has a moderate return.

    You're both young enough to wade this out a little more. In the interim this is His dream. Your boyfriend, but HIS dream. Support is a good place to start from, and a healthy bit of scepticisim held in unspoken reserve is also a good thing.
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    MuscleComeBack saidI think the first thing he should have done was have you sign a non-disclose agreement when telling you his concept!

    A pipe-dreamer, much like a balloon, needs an anchor. Not a pin. A good anchor is one that plans and provides a stable grounding force, keep thoughts of more realistic outcomes to themselves unless mutual holdings are at risk (shared funds, house, children, animals, etc.) all while allowing the balloon to drift sufficiently upwards as is a balloon's want. Being careful not to prick it purposefully, and making sure that it's tethered to the anchor, so it doesn't burst by going too high on its own.

    Most pipe-dreamers eventually find some small reward, sufficient to either quell the desire, or give them reason to dream bigger the next time. The danger is of growing disillusioned and bitter after all comes to naught. So you have to decide whether this is the pattern or if he's just crazy enough to maybe - just maybe - one day hit on something that has a moderate return.

    You're both young enough to wade this out a little more. In the interim this is His dream. Your boyfriend, but HIS dream. Support is a good place to start from, and a healthy bit of scepticisim held in unspoken reserve is also a good thing.


    An absolute devine response!
    Thank u for ur input. It actually has helped but things into perspective for me.
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    You ask a very specific question without giving any real details that would help somebody answer.

    It is very dependent on your relationship. Is there any reason that you believe that you should have a say on how he spends his time? I have never given anybody the idea that I own their time and sure as hell do not believe I owe anybody mine. If somebody told me that they did not want me to pursue an idea- regardless of weather it is a "pipe dream" or not I would likely tell them where to go.

    If you are financially supporting him you may have grounds to ask him to reconsider. If it is a long term relationship and he is ignoring you and spending all of his free time with this concept you may feel put out and ask him to consider the impact that it is having on you and the relationship in general. If he just wants to blow a couple of hundred dollars that he has earned and a few hours a week chasing fame and fortune I would suggest that you let him- even make an attempt to support him. Spend the time together making the wrist bands (but do not make too many- I, like you do not see that this product will be filling a need in society and can not see it being overly popular.)

    It sounds like you have yourself a dreamer. Hopefully he is able to translate those dreams into reality.


    Why was the question asked in the first place- what is it that you are afraid will happen if he chases this pipe dream? I guess I am asking what the worst outcome would be if you said nothing and "allowed" it to unfold?

    *** As an edit I think I like Musclecomeback's response far better... he said pretty much everything I was thinking in a far less confrontational manner- and put a lot of thought into it. That has to be the best description of the roles that a pipe dreamer and an anchor have in a relationship that I have read.***
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    I think some people take more risks than others can be comfortable with. He might be blowing time and energy on stupid crap that'll get him nowhere.. but if he ends up being right, or getting lucky, then a venture like this could prove to be a great source of income, and bring him a lot of happiness.
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
    No necessarily terrible, if he goes at it properly. He must have some idea as to how to go about it, how to market it.

    You don't just throw up a random page, ill designed, and hope for the best.
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
    Dude..... Your right...sounds like he's more immature than you are.....knowing this you'll need to decide how to handle the situation.....BUD
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    Sep 05, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
    Honestly, I don't think it matters what he is selling. Sounds like you have an inventor/ entrepreneur on your hands. People like this either completely blow themselves up or become wildly successful.

    In the 80's a guy became a millionaire with the Pet Rock (back then a million was a lot)

    Don't forget about Chia pets and all the other insane "As seen on TV" crap.

    I say don't destroy his spirit, you never know what kind of crap people will buy, especially if it is quirky or novel.

    Silly Bandz, beanie babies, and all kinds of bullshit are sold to bored people all the time and if it becomes a hit, the numbers can be astounding.


    While most fail, success in this area comes in managing a portfolio of shitty little items and statistically a certain percentage of them become popular and or famous. (This is truly how this business works).

    So my advice is that if he likes to create things, go for it. If not, let him try and fail, it could be a learning experience, or it could wind up being something that lets him retire at 25.

    Just copywright/ patent what you do, and get a good lawyer.