McCain Pledges To Win California in the genral election...

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    Feb 25, 2008 10:16 PM GMT
    Over the weekend, the California Republican Party held a convention in San Francisco. (Yes, San Francisco, of all places.) All the usual rhteotic was present, but a news bite that caused my attention is that McCain supporters believe they can take Califonria i the general election. With 1/10 of the electoral votes needed to win, California hasn't gone for a Republican since 1988.

    Given 70-80% of the states 37 million people live in the metro areas of San Francisco (7 million) and Los Angeles (18+ million), where Democrats outnumber Republicans 2-1, he can't be possibly realistically think California will be in play in the fall. Only in Orange County do Republicans outnumber Democrats, but it's still close.

    (Conspicuously absent from this convention was the Governator, who still has approval ratings in the 60% range.)
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    Feb 26, 2008 2:10 AM GMT
    Well, what else is he going to say? "I plan to lose your state, and 23 others, but still win the election"?
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    Feb 26, 2008 2:30 AM GMT
    I think McCain and Arnold's style of Republican politics may not be too dissimilar. Both are somewhat "mavericks" in that they don't always toe the national party line. I'm frankly amazed a Republican has ever been elected to anything in California! LOL

    Time will tell. I've been surprised before. I mean, in 2005, I had never even heard of Barack Obama, and never would have guessed he'd be giving Clinton a run for her money.
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    Feb 26, 2008 2:36 AM GMT
    jprichva saidWell, what else is he going to say? "I plan to lose your state, and 23 others, but still win the election"?



    That would be fantastic.

    Didn't Arnold promise California to Bush in '04?
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    Feb 26, 2008 3:12 AM GMT
    redheaded_dude saidI think McCain and Arnold's style of Republican politics may not be too dissimilar. Both are somewhat "mavericks" in that they don't always toe the national party line. I'm frankly amazed a Republican has ever been elected to anything in California! LOL

    Time will tell. I've been surprised before. I mean, in 2005, I had never even heard of Barack Obama, and never would have guessed he'd be giving Clinton a run for her money.


    California has had divided government (Republican governor, Democratic legislature) for much for the last 30 years. George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, and let's not forget Reagan, while Willie Brown has been Assembly speaker for most of that time. A statewide Republican needs to be in the middle socially. Where you get the right-wing wackos are in individual districts, like the central valley, etc. No right wing conservative could ever be elected statewide.

    As for Arnold and McCain being similar, I thing Arnold is the more moderate of the two. Arnold was elected by moderate Republicans, independents, and a majority of Demorats. Even in San Francisco, he received 52% of the vote in 2006. I doubt McCain could muster that kind of support in liberal bastions.
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    Feb 26, 2008 3:38 AM GMT
    I think McCain has screwed himself because of his obviously saying one thing then doing another. Like pushing for no waterboarding in legislation back in 05, then just voting against its being excluded for use by the CIA. This Idiot on this subject and on the Lobbyist subject is making himself out to be a total sham. I'd about bet he'll even lose the better share of republican votes. I HOPE ANYWAYS !!!
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    Feb 26, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    Oh, wait a minute...do they use Diebold machines in CA?icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 26, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    McCain is doing some highly questionable stuff with respect to campaign financing that may come back to bite him in the ass:

    http://www.americablog.com/2008/02/john-mccains-other-scandal-its-actually.html
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    Feb 26, 2008 4:02 AM GMT
    Hey C_nation !!! I hear ya !!!! they probably do, maybe that's why he feels comfy making such a statement !!! Parodox - I read that and I hope it does come back to bite him !!!
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    Feb 26, 2008 4:13 AM GMT
    LatinMuscleSF said
    California has had divided government (Republican governor, Democratic legislature) for much for the last 30 years. George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, and let's not forget Reagan, while Willie Brown has been Assembly speaker for most of that time. A statewide Republican needs to be in the middle socially. Where you get the right-wing wackos are in individual districts, like the central valley, etc. No right wing conservative could ever be elected statewide.


    Tell me about it... my rep back home is a really staunchly conservative... and I still live in L.A. county.
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    Feb 26, 2008 4:46 AM GMT
    I think McCain could have a chance at the 'Democratic' states, especially if Obama is up for the Democrats.....
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    Feb 26, 2008 12:52 PM GMT
    How bad is it that I can't take McCain seriously - because every time I see his visage it appears as if he's melting. As if he's about to explode like the bad guys at the end of Raiders of the Lost Arc.

    I love even more that they met in SanFran. I bet the parks, public restrooms, and leather bars were busy then!