Obama Puts Republicans on Blast

  • metta

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    Sep 07, 2010 7:55 AM GMT
    Obama Puts Republicans on Blast

  • GQjock

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    Sep 07, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
    Mebbe NOW ........... he'll start fighting them?

    Mebbe NOW ............. He'll stop with the compromising?

    Unfortunately I for one won't hold my breath icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 07, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
    While I agree he has not been aggressive enough, he can't do it alone.

    Unfortunately, republican fear tactics have been very effective in lowering support for his initiatives.

    It appears they have also stolen hope from you.

    GQjock saidMebbe NOW ........... he'll start fighting them?

    Mebbe NOW ............. He'll stop with the compromising?

    Unfortunately I for one won't hold my breath icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 07, 2010 11:23 AM GMT
    I will admit it- I am a little uncertain if that was just the Democrats "Glenn Beck" rally. Please take the time to listen to the spin and stop swallowing everything you are sold. He spends just under 12 minutes tearing apart Republicans and calling them every name but stupid and then says thoughtfully "you know, its easy sometimes for folks to stir up stuff- turn on each other... but I just want everybody here to know, that's not who we are- that's not the country I know" Well, that seems to be what he did for the first part of speech. We even have the obligatory chanting of "yes we can" after he informs us that the Republicans have a slogan of "no, we can't." It's a Glenn Beck rally complete with chanting...

    Now, I get that it is building up for a campaign- and I don't blame him for trying to instill fear and tell us how the Republicans are just here to put the car back in the ditch- that they want to put it in "R" while the Democrats want to use "D" for drive (actually, very cleaver on the part of the speech writer.) I like that he seems to put the Democrats above being influenced by lobbyists while they "ride shotgun" with the Republicans. Special interest groups have their hooks in both parties, equally. What I am saying is that possibly paying less attention to that part and listening to the end of the speech where he gives the good old "Americans roll up our sleeves... we rise and fall as one nation..." and all that jazz may be better. He is as interested in building bridges with Republicans as Bush was with building bridges with the Democrats after he won his second term. They both assured the American public that they would make the effort- and I laughed at both of them with equal fervor. The problem is that politics is, by it's nature divisive and each party NEEDS to divide and whip up their core supporters by any means necessary.





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    Sep 07, 2010 11:29 AM GMT
    creyente saidWhile I agree he has not been aggressive enough, he can't do it alone.

    Unfortunately, republican fear tactics have been very effective in lowering support for his initiatives.

    It appears they have also stolen hope from you.

    GQjock saidMebbe NOW ........... he'll start fighting them?

    Mebbe NOW ............. He'll stop with the compromising?

    Unfortunately I for one won't hold my breath icon_confused.gif


    Hope was for the campaign

    Hope doesn't get bills passed
    Hope doesn't battle the rightwing in the media
    and Hope doesn't stop the right from spreading their lies and getting away with it
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    Sep 07, 2010 11:34 AM GMT
    No he doesn´t.

    Oh. I forgot. I´m not a Republican. Sorry, it was instinctive.
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    Sep 07, 2010 12:59 PM GMT
    True. But hope allows you to see that there has been some movement in a positive direction, and that given the magnitude of what he walked into, it is not possible to get to where we need to be in the short period of time he's been in office.

    I don't think you are wrong to expect more from him, I just think we need to give him some credit for what he has achieved.

    Could things be better? Sure, but most Presidents must compromise to get anything passed. He doesn't seem to be doing any worse than past Presidents on the issues that matter to me.

    Where he has failed is in developing a strategy to counter the negative hype from the right.

    GQjock said
    creyente saidWhile I agree he has not been aggressive enough, he can't do it alone.

    Unfortunately, republican fear tactics have been very effective in lowering support for his initiatives.

    It appears they have also stolen hope from you.

    GQjock saidMebbe NOW ........... he'll start fighting them?

    Mebbe NOW ............. He'll stop with the compromising?

    Unfortunately I for one won't hold my breath icon_confused.gif


    Hope was for the campaign

    Hope doesn't get bills passed
    Hope doesn't battle the rightwing in the media
    and Hope doesn't stop the right from spreading their lies and getting away with it
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    Sep 07, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
    Obama Puts Republicans on Blast

    Too little, too late. The Republicans have had Obama and the Democrats on blast since the day after the 2008 election. That nonstop drumbeat of fear, hate, lies & negativity has paid off. And NOW Obama discovers the Republicans are bad guys who won't play nice? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 07, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
    He has really dropped the ball on this one since the beginning. I hope he can undo some of the damage that his lack of engagement with the noise machine has caused.
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    Sep 07, 2010 1:55 PM GMT
    And to think this happened a half hour away from me yesterday. I couldn't have been paid to watch this BS.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 07, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    It is about time Obama started blasting away at the republicans because it was the good ol' GOP who has bankrupted America with their horrendous tax cuts for the super rich and that unnecessary, costly war in Iraq along with all their other imperialist nation building military manuevers which are the true cause of our nation's ionospheric deficits. President Obama needs to stop playing nicey-nicey and acting like he is too intelligent to go into the gutter and fight with his political foes. Government is an abrasive, cutthroat business and only a strong willed leader can survive in public power. Otherwise Obama is going to appear increasingly indecisive and weak and his approval ratings will than take an even deeper nosedive very similar to President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s.
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    roadbikeRob saidIt is about time Obama started blasting away at the republicans because it was the good ol' GOP who has bankrupted America with their horrendous tax cuts for the super rich and that unnecessary, costly war in Iraq along with all their other imperialist nation building military manuevers which are the true cause of our nation's ionospheric deficits. President Obama needs to stop playing nicey-nicey and acting like he is too intelligent to go into the gutter and fight with his political foes. Government is an abrasive, cutthroat business and only a strong willed leader can survive in public power. Otherwise Obama is going to appear increasingly indecisive and weak and his approval ratings will than take an even deeper nosedive very similar to President Jimmy Carter in the late 1970s.


    It must be wonderful living in fantasyland.
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    Sep 07, 2010 3:11 PM GMT
    Mocktwinkie, if anyone is living in a fantasyland, it is you with your consistant, nonsensical support of the right wing GOP. What I said makes perfectly good sense and it is true. It is the republicans disastrous policies of giving tax cuts for the richest Americans and the endless support for the military industrial complex along with this unnecessary war in Iraq that has pushed our national deficit into ionospheric levels. I don't know what you are eating, drinking or smoking that is causing you to talk in such foolish, irresponsible manners. You need to come back into the real world.
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    Sep 07, 2010 3:27 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidMocktwinkie, if anyone is living in a fantasyland, it is you with your consistant, nonsensical support of the right wing GOP. What I said makes perfectly good sense and it is true. It is the republicans disastrous policies of giving tax cuts for the richest Americans and the endless support for the military industrial complex along with this unnecessary war in Iraq that has pushed our national deficit into ionospheric levels. I don't know what you are eating, drinking or smoking that is causing you to talk in such foolish, irresponsible manners. You need to come back into the real world.


    Amen.

    I enjoyed watching that clip of President Obama.
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    Sep 07, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIt is about time Obama started blasting away at the republicans because it was the good ol' GOP who has bankrupted America with their horrendous tax cuts for the super rich ...


    I know that the GOP has a rotten track record when it comes to giving away your money to the rich- so do the Democrats. This link is from PBS (I hope they are not considered too right leaning...) It is mostly an interview with a Bloomberg reporter about the real cost of the financial bailout (or how much money was given, loaned and guaranteed.) No, it is not the 700 billion TARP. It was over 12 TRILLION. Most of that was given away by the treasury and Federal Reserve.

    Now, was it the middle class who benefited when Goldman was allowed to swap crap assets for secure treasuries at whatever valuation they put on those assets? (they were illiquid when being traded and worth nothing on the open market.) Even the housing "bailout" for home owners which amounts to very little has been ending up in the banks pockets. Banks modify loans for those that they want to, collect the $$$ from the government and then, stats show, still foreclose. (A large percentage still can not make the "modified" payments.)

    I get that the GOP is rotten- but when Obama talks about how the rich benefit under the Republicans I chuckle. A really good first step would be to find out how many TRILLION dollars of worthless paper the Fed has taken onto it's books and who benefited from that (I seriously doubt it was the "middle class." being as you had to be a large financial institution.) Please take a look at where the AIG bailout money went. Almost all of it went directly to Goldman Sachs to close out positions that were held with them.

    Oh, and while it started under Bush Trillions more went under Obama (I have no doubt that those trillions would have went under Bush as well- it was destined to keep the million dollar bonuses flowing while keeping the stocks from crashing.) Now we have Obama calling for reform without even demanding to stop or wanting to see what really happened. It was not 700 billion... and he has no right to blast the GOP for giving away tax cuts to the rich when they benefited something fierce under his watch.

    What we have is 12 trillion dollars (much of which were only guarantees and never actually used) being spread around. We have the Federal Reserve refusing to let the public know where that money went and who received it and a president who is unwilling to even ask the question (don't worry- I know that a Republican president would not ask either- they really are all the same- just here to serve the working man and middle class, I hear...)

    Link: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/economy/the-true-cost-of-the-bank-bailout/3309/?source=patrick.net
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    Sep 07, 2010 6:20 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidIt must be wonderful living in fantasyland.

    If you own a mirror you don't have to look far.
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    Sep 07, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidObama Puts Republicans on Blast

    Too little, too late. The Republicans have had Obama and the Democrats on blast since the day after the 2008 election. That nonstop drumbeat of fear, hate, lies & negativity has paid off. And NOW Obama discovers the Republicans are bad guys who won't play nice? icon_rolleyes.gif





    This is exactly the case.
    And, I really don't think that Obama has learned a thing.
    This speech is just a last ditch effort to try to save the Democratic majority in Congress.

    Millions of voters who are out of work don't care which party (the Republicans) put them out of work.
    They vote against the party (the Democrats) that has failed to put them back to work.

    Most voters are stupid.
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    Sep 08, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidAnd to think this happened a half hour away from me yesterday. I couldn't have been paid to watch this BS.



    No, you get your BS for free - from Fox "News".
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    Sep 08, 2010 4:52 AM GMT
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    roadbikeRob saidIt is the republicans disastrous policies of giving tax cuts for the richest Americans


    Did the Republicans only give tax cuts to "the richest Americans?"




    Nah, they threw a few crumbs to the other 98% of Americans.
    But the top 1-2% got the most.

    Which is one of the main reasons why the Bush tax cuts for the rich should be allowed to die.

    Even Alan Greenspan agrees.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/greenspan-end-bush-tax-cuts/