So am I wrong here?

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    Sep 09, 2010 8:02 AM GMT
    In "professional land" (outside of RJ) I produce music and sometimes collaborate with singers. So this chick and I agreed to co-produce something, as we have co-produced many other songs. She told me to just make a melody on piano, send it to her, then she writes and records the lyrics and sends back the A Capella, then I produce the song with those vocals. Simple as that. She has full creativity on what she writes and sings, and I have full creativity on how I produce it. That way we both have the opportunity to be artistic.

    So I give her a melody. It takes her a full THIRTEEN MONTHS to get back the vocals to me. Didn't matter, as I told her to take all the time she needs.

    So after she sends me the vocals I get a bunch of emails, texts, and voicemails saying that she wants to sing this live for a charity event in TWO WEEKS and asks me to finish it up. I'm like WTF?!?!?!? Furthermore, she asks me to produce a ballad for it (note that I no longer have artistic creativity now that she's telling me what to do) and said she'll find some other producer if I can't do it within the two weeks (note that she no longer understands that this is a collaboration).

    Meanwhile she tells me I'm full of drama.

    Am I missing something here?

    Should I just call her a cunt?

    WTF man, WTF.
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    Sep 09, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
    Tell her to do one.
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    Sep 09, 2010 8:07 AM GMT
    Tell her to do one what?
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    Sep 09, 2010 8:27 AM GMT
    Yeah she is a bitch.

    Take back all your work and tell her to go find someone else. She is an ungrateful biotch.
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    Sep 09, 2010 11:49 AM GMT
    You did make an agreement with her but I would tell her that for future creative works that you will not tolerate the same situation. Tell her you expect the same amount of time that was given to her to create it. If she disagrees tell her to respectfully find someone else for future works but you will not continue the same time limits for future works. Hope that helps.

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    Sep 09, 2010 11:57 AM GMT
    Write her off and next time make a contract. She is trying to take advantage of you.
  • Laurence

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    Sep 09, 2010 12:05 PM GMT
    Oh dear.

    Sounds like she's a drama queen.

    If you can do the work in time for her live performance, then do it. But tell her you don't appreciate her attitude and to be honest, vocalists are a dime a dozen - composer/producers are much more sought after.

    If you haven't got the time to do the work. Tell her you haven't got the time and to find another producer (good luck with that). But remind her that the melody is your intellectual property and you will use it with another, less diva-ish, vocalist in the future.

    I imagine you'll not be working with her in future. Who needs this sort of stress.

    Lozx
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    Sep 09, 2010 12:57 PM GMT
    Sounds like she is unorganized and selfish. You sure she isnt a man?
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    Sep 09, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidTell her to do one what?


    Sorry, I guess that's a bit of a UK term - tell her to FUCK OFF!
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    Sep 09, 2010 1:05 PM GMT
    sounds like she is living in her own world and is only interested in you dancing around her to make her look good.
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    Sep 09, 2010 2:01 PM GMT
    Who is it, Jake?
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    Sep 09, 2010 2:01 PM GMT
    Hey Jake you said that the two of you Co-produced may songs. Did you two get anything else completed while this was waiting in the wing?

    I assume this is the first time that she has done this to you?
  • BronxvilleNY3...

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    Sep 09, 2010 3:33 PM GMT
    In order to avoid all the drama, next time sign a contract!
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    Sep 09, 2010 3:49 PM GMT
    I've run across these types before too. Even with a contract you'd have problems, but at least you'd have recourse. I would spell it out for her. Tell her flat out "Hey, you had thirteen months to write whatever you wanted, now you're telling me I have two weeks to write exactly what you want me to 'a ballad', Do you not see the problem?"

    See how she responds. However it sounds like this is going to end badly, and if it does, put it down as a learning experience.
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    Sep 09, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
    You need to call her out on this. If it took her 13 months to get you the material, it's unrealistic to expect you to turn it around in two weeks. Be firm. Explain that her demands are unrealistic. And give her some "doable" time frames for you to get your part completed. If this is unacceptable to her, then break off any business agreements you have with her and don't work with her in the future.
  • Import

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    Sep 09, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    Never call girls cunts..... It makes them cry.

    Why don't u just fuck her and get it over with. Fuck that pussy, raw.
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    Sep 09, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
    sounds like a crusty cunt to me! drop that bitch!
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    Sep 09, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
    " IT'S BENSON, BITCH!!!"
  • joncfernan

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    Sep 09, 2010 5:04 PM GMT
    Take your work back and let her find someone else. But do be professional with her and explain to her the situation.
  • rnch

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    Sep 09, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    EMSman saidYeah she is a bitch.

    Take back all your work and tell her to go find someone else. She is an ungrateful biotch.
    YESSS!!!!!!! icon_mad.gif
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    Sep 09, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    crazycool saidsounds like a crusty cunt to me! drop that bitch!


    LOL, a crusty cunt no less icon_biggrin.gif

    You'z awesome crazy!!!

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    Sep 09, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    Your lady co-worker obviously has little consideration or manners. However, I'm rather surprised that you'd mind given your strong opinions in the other forum thread.
  • rock_e_horror

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    Sep 09, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
    Anytime "...this chick" is at the beginning of a statement, I know it's gonna be worth listening to. icon_twisted.gif

    NickFit saidTell her to do one.


    That's one of my favorite polite ways of telling people to fuck themselves..
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    Sep 09, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
    Always put everything in writing, Everything. What is expected, how you will get paid, performance rights, credits, etc, before working on a project. That way things are clear and hopefully no hurt feelings will become of it.

    I'd come up with a written contract now, before you do anymore work or turnover anything, and before she performs it publicly. I hope you can work something out.

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    Sep 09, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
    1) Cut ties now. Never work with her again, obviously. A professional would never behave that way with any producer they hoped to work with again. She has a LOT to learn about the music business. She sounds like a pain in the ass.

    2) 13 months to finish the vocals for one song? I would have counted her out by then.

    3) Take the same arrangement you gave her, and give it to somebody else. The entire song, minus her vocals -- IS YOURS. So make a better product with somebody else. Hopefully in less time.

    4) She can sing her version whenever she wants. But as soon as people tell her they want to buy it, she's fucked. There's no way she could mix, master, and create anything resembling respectable art (not to mention waiting for a CD production company to press and mail them back) by herself.

    5) I want to check out some of your music.