Log Cabin Republicans ???????? To the Rescue

  • Webster666

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    Sep 10, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
    (09-09) 19:17 PDT Riverside, Calif. (AP) --

    A federal judge in Southern California has declared the U.S. military's ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional because the ban violates the First Amendment rights of gays and lesbians.

    U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips said Thursday she will issue an injunction that will halt the enforcement of the government's "don't ask, don't tell" policy nationwide.


    Phillips says the policy doesn't help military readiness and instead has a "direct and deleterious effect."

    The Log Cabin Republicans filed the lawsuit in 2004. Phillips says she will draft the injunction with input from the group within a week and the government will have a week to respond.

    The case comes amid promises by President Barack Obama that he will work to repeal the policy.
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    Sep 10, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    Looks like Republicans finish the job when Democrats once promised to do so.
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    Sep 10, 2010 4:54 AM GMT
    For now, this throws a giant wrench into Obama's "softly, softly" approach.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11256359

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/09/dont.ask.dont.tell/index.html?hpt=T2
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    Sep 11, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
    I have to agree that Obama and the democrats have been very disappointing in handling this situation of DADT. They have been slowly dragging their asses to a point that DADT might never get repealed. It took a federal judge and the Log Cabin Republicans to take a strong stand against this horrendous DADT military policy. I fully understand the idea of moving slowly in making major changes in military policies but this here is bureaucratic bungling and being scared shitless of some of the right wingers. This is a good example of indecisiveness on the democrats part.
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    Sep 12, 2010 7:46 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Webster666 said
    The case comes amid promises by President Barack Obama that he will work to repeal the policy.

    Well, technically, he is "working to repeal the policy" but doing so in such a way that it won't ever get to the point of being repealed, however it will continue to bamboozle the gays into blindly voting Democrat yet again. icon_wink.gif




    A) Nobody votes, "Democrat." When will you stupid Republicans learn that ?

    B) Obama's doing it in such a way that it won't hurt his chances for re-election.

    C) Almost all gays vote for Democrats because Democratic legislatures and Democratic judges tend to obey the dictates of the United States Constitution, and, therefore, guarantee more and more equal rights for us, unlike almost all Republicans who vote their fears, hatred, and prejudices.

    D) Don't be stupid. Of course it will be repealed.

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    Sep 12, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    Webster666 said

    A) Nobody votes, "Democrat." When will you stupid Republicans learn that ?


    Never. That's why they're stupid.
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    Sep 12, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, I think this is a ploy by the Republicans. Sure they have the Log Cabin Republicans, who (I hope) are genuinely interested in seeing DADT repealed. Currently the only logjam is in the Senate, and Democrats want to repeal it before their majority is challenged by the elections. And who's holding it up?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gays_in_militaryThe House-passed repeal measure is contained in a broader defense policy bill which has yet to be sent to the Senate floor because of an objection by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., during debate in the Armed Services Committee.

    McCain said it was "disgraceful" to push for a vote on the repeal before completion of the Pentagon review.

    Democrats, who effectively hold 59 Senate seats, will need at least some Republican support to reach the 60 votes needed to pass the bill. Republican Susan Collins of Maine voted for repeal in committee.

    The Senate has a packed agenda for the next few weeks before its recess, and Republicans have warned that they might not make time for the defense bill if it contains controversial amendments. Along with the 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal, it includes a proposal that would allow female service members to receive abortions at military facilities.


    So now the Republicans can say truthfully that
    A. To the gay electorate: We tried to repeal DADT but the Democrat-controlled Senate is holding up things
    B. To the socially conservative electorate: We held up the repeal of DADT because it's a disgrace on how they tried to pack abortion into the bill. And who doesn't like DADT anyway??
    C. To the fiscally conservative electorate: They tried to pack some questionable things in that defense bill.

    IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION!

    You might ask, why didn't the Justice Department give up its case?:
    same article
    "We're pleased by the judge's decision, but this decision is likely to be appealed and will linger for years," said Aubrey Sarvis of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, which has lobbied against 'don't ask, don't tell.'
    ...
    Justice Department attorney Paul G. Freeborne argued that the issue should be decided by Congress rather than in court. He said the plaintiffs were trying to force a federal court to overstep its bounds and halt the policy as it is being debated by lawmakers.


    By having passed as law in Congress makes it more foolproof (against Supreme Court intervention). But unfortunately sometimes you have to take your victories piecemeal, and the Democrats don't really understand that. People want small benefits quickly, and don't see the big picture. (Just look at how health care is mangled by both sides of the aisle) This all-or-nothing mentality will be the undoing of progressive elements in the government.
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    Sep 12, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    Last gasps from a dying organization.
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    Sep 12, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
    Ralphie251 saidgays vote democrat, because it is the democrats that help us. the republicans just want to take away our rights. just go to a teabagger event where republicans are dressed up in white sheets shouting hate against us.


    Times are changing slowly. Not all Republicans are homophobic. Though most YES, but again a lot of new Republicans aren't.
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    Sep 13, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
    IT'S DEMOCRAT(IC) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Sep 13, 2010 1:14 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidIT'S DEMOCRAT(IC) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Also, it's "Republicunt."
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    Sep 13, 2010 2:02 PM GMT
    As much as I usually dislike Log Cabin Republicans I am glad to see them take a lead on getting DADT repealed.
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    Sep 13, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    I met quite a large group of LCRs at a party in Ft. Lauderdale some years ago. They were the snidest, nastiest bunch of racist elitists I'd ever encountered.

    Trying to engage any one of them in a reasonable debate was impossible. The racism was what really took me aback...especially the anti-Latino and anti-Black African American racism. WTF is up with that?

    When I brought up the issue of marriage equality and the thousands of rights AND responsibilities I feel we should be able to share with our hetero friends, the group consensus was "We don't need that. Just hire an attorney and draw up a will." Yeah. Cuz it's all about the money, dontcha see!

    We bade our hosts farewell after about an hour of sad and shocking revelations about this most peculiar and tragic subset of our community.
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    Sep 13, 2010 8:26 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidI met quite a large group of LCRs at a party in Ft. Lauderdale some years ago. They were the snidest, nastiest bunch of racist elitists I'd ever encountered.

    Trying to engage any one of them in a reasonable debate was impossible. The racism was what really took me aback...especially the anti-Latino and anti-Black African American racism. WTF is up with that?

    When I brought up the issue of marriage equality and the thousands of rights AND responsibilities I feel we should be able to share with our hetero friends, the group consensus was "We don't need that. Just hire an attorney and draw up a will." Yeah. Cuz it's all about the money, dontcha see!

    We bade our hosts farewell after about an hour of sad and shocking revelations about this most peculiar and tragic subset of our community.


    I recently attempted to befriend a gay conservative, We met in a bar one night randomly, he seemed normal and I enjoyed talking with him.

    We are facebook friends now....and some of the shit he posts..Its incredible he has any friends at all. He posts stuff from hot air.com which are pretty much anti-non white/non Christian/non white propaganda. When I comment on some of his stuff some of his friends respond with shit like "this is more bullshit multiculturalism that makes us weak" Or my persona favorite "I would have no problem living in a country ruled by white land owning straight Christian men. This country has strayed so far from what its supposed to be".

    I face palmed so hard I had to go to the ER.

    Bonus, this gay conservative not only went to the "restoring honor" event, he plans on going to Homocon, you know that self loathing gay event hosting Ann Coulter? Yea, thats some sad shit huh?
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    Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
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    OtterJoq saidI met quite a large group of LCRs at a party in Ft. Lauderdale some years ago. They were the snidest, nastiest bunch of racist elitists I'd ever encountered.

    Trying to engage any one of them in a reasonable debate was impossible. The racism was what really took me aback...especially the anti-Latino and anti-Black African American racism. WTF is up with that?

    When I brought up the issue of marriage equality and the thousands of rights AND responsibilities I feel we should be able to share with our hetero friends, the group consensus was "We don't need that. Just hire an attorney and draw up a will." Yeah. Cuz it's all about the money, dontcha see!

    We bade our hosts farewell after about an hour of sad and shocking revelations about this most peculiar and tragic subset of our community.


    I recently attempted to befriend a gay conservative, We met in a bar one night randomly, he seemed normal and I enjoyed talking with him.

    We are facebook friends now....and some of the shit he posts..Its incredible he has any friends at all. He posts stuff from hot air.com which are pretty much anti-non white/non Christian/non white propaganda. When I comment on some of his stuff some of his friends respond with shit like "this is more bullshit multiculturalism that makes us weak" Or my persona favorite "I would have no problem living in a country ruled by white land owning straight Christian men. This country has strayed so far from what its supposed to be".

    I face palmed so hard I had to go to the ER.

    Bonus, this gay conservative not only went to the "restoring honor" event, he plans on going to Homocon, you know that self loathing gay event hosting Ann Coulter? Yea, thats some sad shit huh?


    That's some VERY sad shit.

    Self-loathing is so tragic.
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    Sep 14, 2010 3:40 PM GMT
    southbeach1500He probably would have the same reaction if he saw the stuff you write here.


    And what would that be. Except for differences of fiscal policies you have nothing. I mean there's a difference between someone who fights for equality and justice in this country/world (what you wingers call liberal utopia) and the hate and rhetoric that comes from some on the right that works for just the opposite.
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    Sep 15, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    Why do gay conservatives support someone like Christine O'donnel?
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    Sep 15, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidWhy do gay conservatives support someone like Christine O'donnel?


    Because gay conservatives supporting Christine O'Donnell are smarter than gay liberals who do not support her.


    Aww thats cute, come to play at the big brain boys table have you?

    So you are all for this bible thumping anti-gay/anti-masturbation bigot who thinks gays can be "cured" by ex-gay therapy?

    Classy.
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
    Not to mention somewhat shady in her finances according to wikipedia...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O%27Donnell

    ...and for Conservapedia apparently all they need are the following buzz words:
    [url]http://conservapedia.com/Christine_O%27Donnell[/url]Christine O'Donnell (born August 27, 1969) is a pro-life political commentator for the Fox News channel, having appeared on The O'Reilly Factor, Fox & Friends, and Glenn Beck. She is the Tea Party Express and Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate in Delaware, defeating pro-abortion GOP Congressman Mike Castle.


    Sheesh. They forgot anti-gay.

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    Sep 15, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidNot to mention somewhat shady in her finances according to wikipedia...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O%27Donnell

    ...and for Conservapedia apparently all they need are the following buzz words:
    [url]http://conservapedia.com/Christine_O%27Donnell[/url]Christine O'Donnell (born August 27, 1969) is a pro-life political commentator for the Fox News channel, having appeared on The O'Reilly Factor, Fox & Friends, and Glenn Beck. She is the Tea Party Express and Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate in Delaware, defeating pro-abortion GOP Congressman Mike Castle.


    Sheesh. They forgot anti-gay.



    Holy shit, that combination of buzzwords is probably Tammy Bruce shot a load all over the floor.



    In case you didn't know, Tammy is a big ole lesbo.
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    Sep 15, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    You know what, the more I look at her, the more she looks like Old Christine!
    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/old_christine/video/?pid=wElBqQxK4JVsvezAUQWmmVRk4anuBDeW
    Christine drops by to ask Max if he thinks she is smart.