Reid to schedule ‘Don’t Ask’ vote next week

  • metta

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    Sep 14, 2010 12:22 AM GMT



    Reid to schedule ‘Don’t Ask’ vote next week

    http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/09/13/reid-to-schedule-dont-ask-vote-next-week/
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    Sep 14, 2010 12:46 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThere's a new forum for stuff like this: News & Politics.

    You're aware of it, because you've created some political threads in there already, so why are you clogging up the general forum with this stuff?
    You clog up the general forum with your political tirades at an alarmingly constant rate..

    Pot, meet kettle!
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    Sep 14, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    Since I feel myself responsible for pushing for the new Politics forum, I must admit I hope we will move these threads over there.

    As for this OP, I think Reid's move is ill-timed and ill-advised.
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    Sep 14, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    metta8 said


    Reid to schedule ‘Don’t Ask’ vote next week

    http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/09/13/reid-to-schedule-dont-ask-vote-next-week/


    Thank God! I hope they schedule a 'Don't Tell' vote sooner after.




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    Sep 14, 2010 12:50 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThere's a new forum for stuff like this: News & Politics.

    You're aware of it, because you've created some political threads in there already, so why are you clogging up the general forum with this stuff?



    That's BS, SB.

    CLEARLY, an upcoming vote on DADT qualifies as something gay and absolutely belongs in a forum on "All Things Gay".
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    Sep 14, 2010 12:56 AM GMT
    Well... I'm at the point where I feel as though "I'll believe it when I see it." I wrote a letter this past weekend to my "esteemed" US Senator Lindsey Graham urging him to vote in favor of the repeal, and to lobby is BFF (not what I referred to him as in the letter) John McCain to stop his obstructionism with regard to the repeal of DADT.

    I mailed it off to his local office, and his DC office (carbon copies). I typed the letter, but phyiscally wrote out the to/from addresses on the envelope so the staffers would be more inclined to open the letter. I also know that the local office will be more likely to open it though. I don't bother to write or call Jim DeMint - I'm not even convinced he can read or comprehend intellectual wording.
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    Sep 14, 2010 12:57 AM GMT
    If it is ever decided in which forum this thread belongs, I would say...

    I am not surprised that the Dems are scheduling a vote now. The need the gay vote in November and the courts are going to take the opportunity for the Dems to get credit for repealing DADT if they dont hurry.

    But until then I will remain silent. ... icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 14, 2010 1:08 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidIf it is ever decided in which forum this thread belongs, I would say...

    I am not surprised that the Dems are scheduling a vote now. The need the gay vote in November and the courts are going to take the opportunity for the Dems to get credit for repealing DADT if they dont hurry.

    But until then I will remain silent. ... icon_wink.gif


    After reading the other thread on Charlie Crist, I thought only he was for using gays for votes.
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    Caslon15000 saidIf it is ever decided in which forum this thread belongs, I would say...

    I am not surprised that the Dems are scheduling a vote now. The need the gay vote in November and the courts are going to take the opportunity for the Dems to get credit for repealing DADT if they dont hurry.

    But until then I will remain silent. ... icon_wink.gif


    After reading the other thread on Charlie Crist, I thought only he was for using gays for votes.
    You need some serious education...........
  • nv7_

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    Sep 14, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    CHRISMA said
    TropicalMark said
    CHRISMA said
    Caslon15000 saidIf it is ever decided in which forum this thread belongs, I would say...

    I am not surprised that the Dems are scheduling a vote now. The need the gay vote in November and the courts are going to take the opportunity for the Dems to get credit for repealing DADT if they dont hurry.

    But until then I will remain silent. ... icon_wink.gif


    After reading the other thread on Charlie Crist, I thought only he was for using gays for votes.
    You need some serious education...........


    I'd say your the one who needs the education. Do you like the gay community being used for votes?


    "I'd say you're the one who needs the education." *cough*
  • Webster666

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    Sep 14, 2010 2:56 AM GMT
    Oh, a vote on DADT ought to go over really big...
    The Republicans must be licking their chops over this one.



    Southbeach1500, who died and left you in charge ?
    It's none of your damn business where guys post.
    So, stop getting your over sized bloomers in a twist and go make up your next "Chicken Little" thread.

    The best way to get a new forum category noticed is to put it at the top of the list.
    Otherwise, posters will go to the category where they're used to going, as clearly most of us have done.
  • metta

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    Sep 14, 2010 3:24 AM GMT

    Pentagon: No Plans to Change 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy After Court Ruling

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/13/pentagon-plans-change-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy-court-ruling/
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    Sep 14, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    RYAN_SC saidWell... I'm at the point where I feel as though "I'll believe it when I see it." I wrote a letter this past weekend to my "esteemed" US Senator Lindsey Graham urging him to vote in favor of the repeal, and to lobby is BFF (not what I referred to him as in the letter) John McCain to stop his obstructionism with regard to the repeal of DADT.

    I mailed it off to his local office, and his DC office (carbon copies). I typed the letter, but phyiscally wrote out the to/from addresses on the envelope so the staffers would be more inclined to open the letter. I also know that the local office will be more likely to open it though. I don't bother to write or call Jim DeMint - I'm not even convinced he can read or comprehend intellectual wording.



    Don't you think that voting to repeal DADT would be too much of a political risk for Graham?
    A lot of folks already think he's gay and that doesn't fly with Repub voters in a red state like his.
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    Sep 14, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidOh, a vote on DADT ought to go over really big...
    The Republicans must be licking their chops over this one.



    Southbeach1500, who died and left you in charge ?
    It's none of your damn business where guys post.
    So, stop getting your over sized bloomers in a twist and go make up your next "Chicken Little" thread.

    The best way to get a new forum category noticed is to put it at the top of the list.
    Otherwise, posters will go to the category where they're used to going, as clearly most of us have done.



    SB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said

    SB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?



    This coming from Mr. Cheerful himself icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Sep 14, 2010 3:52 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    rickrick91 saidSB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?


    Nah... but it is quite annoying to see the country continuing to slide towards ruin each day that the Democrats are in charge.

    I hate to be that guy, but were you around when Bush actually DID Ruin the country? Honestly, I'm not an Obama fanatic, nor am I a Bush hater, but I say he's done an OK job just getting us as stabilized as we are. If we haven't improved in about 6 more month my attitude might change, but you can only do so much when you are handed a train wreck.
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    Sep 14, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
    BeingThePhoenix saidI hate to be that guy, but were you around when Bush actually DID Ruin the country?



    This is just MY opinion, but to say that "Bush ruined the country" I think shows a real lack of understanding of how we actually got where we were in 2008. It may be convenient for many to forget that Bush also inherited a recession when he took office in 2001, not to mention had to deal with some of the biggest disasters -- 9/11 & Katrina -- that this country has ever faced. Let's also not forget that the last two years of his Presidency were governed by Democratic majorities in both the Senate & the House. While many like to make Bush a scapegoat for many, if not all, of the ills of the country, the cold hard reality is that the place the U.S. found itself in 2008 (and the present) was decades in the making. No one President or one political party can be blamed. It was a "Perfect Storm" of sorts, fueled by epic disasters and corporate downfalls, that brought us where we are today. I still think it is too early to tell if Obama's "Change We Can Believe In" is something we actually can be believe in. Time will tell.
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    Sep 14, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
    I find it quite amazing that America continues so much of its own political agenda on a highway on which they travel alone.

    They finally saw clear after 250 years to put women in combat, in the air and on ships. The rest of the free world and indeed not so free led the way. Now they continue to balk at the sexual orientation agenda.

    Canada, although not a leader in the field has had gays in the military and now, finally, in the RCMP for more than a decade, many in senior supervisory roles. So for the United States not to take active study in these situations and see that the ONLY problem is narrow minded thinking on the part of both parties, is a condemnation of the system in general.

    I am a gay retired policeman, along with others on this site including active and retired members of the military and fire. We have proven to these trogladites that we are worthy, and indeed, equal or better to our straight counterparts. Their foot shuffling is mere window dressing and an attempt to wait long enough to pass it onto the next administration...keithicon_cool.gif
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    Sep 15, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    BeingThePhoenix saidI hate to be that guy, but were you around when Bush actually DID Ruin the country? Honestly, I'm not an Obama fanatic, nor am I a Bush hater, but I say he's done an OK job just getting us as stabilized as we are. If we haven't improved in about 6 more month my attitude might change, but you can only do so much when you are handed a train wreck.


    NOTE: I'm not being nasty below, just blunt. Do not take this as a personal attack:

    Did I say Bush did a good or bad job? No.

    How long are we going to have to hear "Well, look at Bush!" whenever someone criticizes the results of the party that is currently in power and has been in power since January of 2009?

    The Democrats are in power, they have been in power for almost 2 years now, they've had a chance to stop meddling with the economy but they haven't, they've just made things worse and strangled it almost to the point of killing what little recovery the economy has been able to attain in spite of their ineffective "stimulus" and class warfare against "the wealthy."

    They've run up as much debt as all the presidents from Washington right through Reagan. And they've done that in under 20 months. It's the Democrat's mess and they are making things worse.


    It is true that Obama hasn't made all the right moves, in a time in American history when we really need him to. The past 20 months have been 50/50 ish. Not great, but not terrible.

    Having said that, Bush actually made even fewer good moves by this point in his presidency. Actually, I'd say it was about 6 months into his 2nd term, before I personally realized that he was not a very good President. No people, not because he was a Rep, but because thats about how long it takes to see if the changes a President has made have beeen good or bad.

    The economy didn't get messed up in 2 years, and unfortunately it isn't going to get fixed in 2 years. I don't think Obama has been a great President, so far and he definitely hasn't lived up to the hype, but lets be real here....Obama will be a 2 term President.... and it is a waiting game to see if the changes he has made or will make will fix the economy.

    It is America's mess and partisan politics, as well as a few mis-steps is making it worse.
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    rickrick91 saidSB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?


    Nah... but it is quite annoying to see the country continuing to slide towards ruin each day that the Democrats are in charge.


    Please explain how voting to repeal DADT causes this country of ours to slide towards ruin. Are you telling us you are against the repeal of DADT? Is that what you're saying?
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Sep 15, 2010 12:12 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    BeingThePhoenix saidI hate to be that guy, but were you around when Bush actually DID Ruin the country?



    This is just MY opinion, but to say that "Bush ruined the country" I think shows a real lack of understanding of how we actually got where we were in 2008. It may be convenient for many to forget that Bush also inherited a recession when he took office in 2001, not to mention had to deal with some of the biggest disasters -- 9/11 & Katrina -- that this country has ever faced. Let's also not forget that the last two years of his Presidency were governed by Democratic majorities in both the Senate & the House. While many like to make Bush a scapegoat for many, if not all, of the ills of the country, the cold hard reality is that the place the U.S. found itself in 2008 (and the present) was decades in the making. No one President or one political party can be blamed. It was a "Perfect Storm" of sorts, fueled by epic disasters and corporate downfalls, that brought us where we are today. I still think it is too early to tell if Obama's "Change We Can Believe In" is something we actually can be believe in. Time will tell.

    No, the economy was NOT Bush alone. Any economist will tell you that the economy was strong under the Clinton Administration, but we were at risk of a recession in the beginning of the Bush years. He didn't inherit a recession, but it was close at hand. It was the Bush tax cut program that toppled the cake, insisting that, "The surplus is not the government's money. The surplus is the people's money." His invasion of an innocent (and I use this word lightly) country was just the icing on the sidewalk.

    As for Katrina, they are still waiting for that Bush Administration assistance, but I'm not going to harp on that.

    No President is perfect and no single President can be blamed for the economy, but they can be judged afterwards to determine if their decisions helped or hindered. I actually like Bush, but he was more of a hinderance than anything.

    Yes, the decisions he made ruined this country (as in, financially), but it is nothing we cant move beyond. He made poor decisions that exasterbated the situation. He could, if he would, help Obama by mediating compromise between the 2 parties, so that they actually work together to find the right way out of this mess, but that isn't likely to happen. He's Red and Obama is Blue. They can work together to help Hayti, but not the US. Does no one else see a problem with that???
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    reppaT said
    southbeach1500 said
    rickrick91 saidSB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?

    Nah... but it is quite annoying to see the country continuing to slide towards ruin each day that the Democrats are in charge.

    Please explain how voting to repeal DADT causes this country of ours to slide towards ruin. Are you telling us you are against the repeal of DADT? Is that what you're saying?

    Nah, he's just a nihilist
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Sep 15, 2010 12:19 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    rickrick91 said
    southbeach1500 saidThere's a new forum for stuff like this: News & Politics.

    You're aware of it, because you've created some political threads in there already, so why are you clogging up the general forum with this stuff?



    That's BS, SB.

    CLEARLY, an upcoming vote on DADT qualifies as something gay and absolutely belongs in a forum on "All Things Gay".


    Well, it's "political" and it's "news" so......

    It isn't necessarily political, but rather it is being used as a political tool. It is more a matter of civil rights....it is just going down in a political arena to further divide the aisle.
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    BeingThePhoenix saidI hate to be that guy, but were you around when Bush actually DID Ruin the country? Honestly, I'm not an Obama fanatic, nor am I a Bush hater, but I say he's done an OK job just getting us as stabilized as we are. If we haven't improved in about 6 more month my attitude might change, but you can only do so much when you are handed a train wreck.


    NOTE: I'm not being nasty below, just blunt. Do not take this as a personal attack:

    Did I say Bush did a good or bad job? No.

    How long are we going to have to hear "Well, look at Bush!" whenever someone criticizes the results of the party that is currently in power and has been in power since January of 2009?

    The Democrats are in power, they have been in power for almost 2 years now, they've had a chance to stop meddling with the economy but they haven't, they've just made things worse and strangled it almost to the point of killing what little recovery the economy has been able to attain in spite of their ineffective "stimulus" and class warfare against "the wealthy."

    They've run up as much debt as all the presidents from Washington right through Reagan. And they've done that in under 20 months. It's the Democrat's mess and they are making things worse.



    Dems can't do much with all of the filibustering being done by the Republicans.

    Republican senators are on track to triple (more than triple) the previous record for uses of a filibuster in a Congress. In 2009, there were a record 112 cloture votes. So far in 2010 (through March 2010), there have already been more than 40 cloture votes. I haven't looked into current votes, but I believe the Republicans have now beat the record by a significant landslide, and we're still 3.5 mos. from the end of the calendar year.

    And all b/c they cannot stand Obama. That's really all there is to it. Pussies.

    This information is factual. Look into it.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:23 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    reppaT said
    southbeach1500 said
    rickrick91 saidSB has been in a very foul mood lately, hasn't he?


    Nah... but it is quite annoying to see the country continuing to slide towards ruin each day that the Democrats are in charge.


    Please explain how voting to repeal DADT causes this country of ours to slide towards ruin. Are you telling us you are against the repeal of DADT? Is that what you're saying?


    Are you telling us you are against the repeal of DADT? No

    Is that what you're saying? No


    If your opinion of the Dems. has absolutely nothing to do with the repeal of DADT, then why bring it up at all? You derailed your own debate by posting such a ridiculous statement.

    *Edit - to be clear, you are for the repeal of DADT, arent you?