Let's take the word "gay" back

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    Sep 15, 2010 12:04 AM GMT
    I propose that from now on we stop using the word "gay" as a synonym for stupid and start using it as a synonym for awesome.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:19 AM GMT
    gay is a guy who likes guys..
    where did you take your stupid assumption that gay means stupid...i never heard of that,never read it anywhere and never heard that in my life.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
    I don't think you need to preach this to a homogeneously homosexual community.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:32 AM GMT
    jusTom saidgay is a guy who likes guys..
    where did you take your stupid assumption that gay means stupid...i never heard of that,never read it anywhere and never heard that in my life.


    heard it a few times in the last few years. had to correct those people and have them stop saying it.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:39 AM GMT
    jusTom saidgay is a guy who likes guys..
    where did you take your stupid assumption that gay means stupid...i never heard of that,never read it anywhere and never heard that in my life.

    Under which rock have you been living for the past 5+ years or so? Most definitely not in the US

    "That's so gay" has been used by the intellectually challenged and the haters synonymously for "that's so lame" for a while now in the US. Even Glaad has put it on their "do-not-say-in-public" list, like faggot, fag etc.

    I like the idea to reclaim "gay" and use it instead of awesome and such, but aren't we a little bit late to the dance?
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    jusTom saidgay is a guy who likes guys..
    where did you take your stupid assumption that gay means stupid...i never heard of that,never read it anywhere and never heard that in my life.


    It gets used that way ever since I think South Park introduced it ;) It was satirical but people picked up on it the wrong way I believe

    It said like this: O thats GAY man,

    I actually have said it myself, force of habit..

    Essentially speaking I prefer if we even stopped using the term "gay" for homosexual, since "gay" simply means happy, but yeah, good luck trying to do that lol
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    I completely agree. Here in Cincinnati (conservative town), people frequently use the word gay to mean "stupid", "lame", "odd", or "uncool". Which is weird if you think about it because gay people are often setting the trends for what is cool.

    Anyway, I agree. And, I call people out on it all the time. Just today actually. I was in the locker room (of all places) and a High School student (High School swim teams often rent out the universities olympic sized pool) kept saying "fag" and "gay". Finally, I turned to him and said "dude, I've heard you say "fag" and "gay" enough. This is a UNIVERSITY. People are a lot cooler here. So, cool it." His friends bolted on him. He awkwardly grabbed his stuff and walked out. I wasn't an ass about it, at all. But, I know he felt a little scared. This is probably the 10th guy I've called out for using "gay" in derogatory way.

    I've used "gay" a few times to mean "stylish, in a smart and playful way". I'm all for it.
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:42 AM GMT
    jusTom saidgay is a guy who likes guys..
    where did you take your stupid assumption that gay means stupid...i never heard of that,never read it anywhere and never heard that in my life.

    Urbandictionary:

    gay

    1. jovial or happy, good-spirited
    2. a homosexual male or female
    3. often used to describe something stupid or unfortunate. originating from homophobia. quite preferable among many teenage males in order to buff up their "masculinity"

    1. "We'll have a gay old time."

    2. "You DO know he's gay. Notice his homoerotic pornography collection."

    3. "Man, these seats are gay. I can't even see what's going on!"

    gay
    1.The dictionary definition is happy. However, this is archaic and few people use it any more except in the phrase gay old time.

    2.Homosexual, especially homosexual males but can be used for lesbians as well.

    3.A generic insult. It can mean bad, stupid, whatever you want it to mean.

    There are 29 pages of this...
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gay
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:45 AM GMT
    saillwithhmee saidI propose that from now on we stop using the word "gay" as a synonym for stupid and start using it as a synonym for awesome.

    And how do you propose we do this?
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    Sep 15, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 said
    jusTom said


    gay
    1.The dictionary definition is happy. However, this is archaic and few people use it any more except in the phrase gay old time.



    Hmm "archaic" is a bit much, I still hear it used in the old sense, but I would agree its well on its way to becoming archaic soon, with the way it gets used in all languages for a "homosexual male" nowadays (yes, the term "gay" for homo is no longer even english icon_razz.gif )
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    Sep 15, 2010 1:00 AM GMT
    JUst a brain fart here, but considering the evolution of language, theres two possibilities here:

    1) the term gay becomes so derogatory it actually leaves the language permanently.. this happened to terms such as "thou, thee and thy" which were famliar terms for "you", but became a term of insult around the 19th century, used only to curse at someone (THOU HARLOT = "you slut") and finally left the language completely (RIP) ... same happened with terms such as "harlot" in fact

    2) the term loses its derogatory sense completely and becomes a completely standard term for a homosexual male, rather than being what it is considered today, more of a slang and colloquial term.... this happens to some words, like "wicked" which meant "good" for a while but has since lost ground, however "cool" has stuck around (from the beginning of the last century even) and is losing slang status, "awesome" still resonates, but this last one doesnt look like its going to stick around as a slang term and will probably lose out

    3) the term used in colloquial sense for something undesirable (thats so GAY man) gains ground ... so it finally loses the sense of a "homosexual male", ...it too becoming an archaic meaning along with "happy"... examples are the word "bead" which used to mean "prayer" and lost that sense due to the habit of referring to the rosary (counting beads) rather than the prayer itself



    Language nerds man
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    Sep 15, 2010 3:05 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 said
    saillwithhmee saidI propose that from now on we stop using the word "gay" as a synonym for stupid and start using it as a synonym for awesome.

    And how do you propose we do this?


    Are you gay? No? Then how do you know it's gay?

    That shuts them up each time with a few others laughing and/or making fun of them. What gets me are the gay people (even on this very site) that say it.
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    Sep 15, 2010 3:22 AM GMT
    I always just say, "Happy". icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 15, 2010 3:30 AM GMT
    This thread is so GAY!
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    Sep 15, 2010 3:31 AM GMT
    I generally disapprove of inventing new meanings for words that already have perfectly good ones. It's disingenuous.

    And by the way, my Aunt's name is "Gay." ("Are you gay?" "Why yes! Pleased to meet you !")
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    Sep 15, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidI generally disapprove of inventing new meanings for words that already have perfectly good ones. It's disingenuous.



    It's not so much inventing... language just evolves, naturally. Try picking up a book from the beginning of the last century and you'll notice how quickly things change.

    By the time you're old, your grandchildren will be using a whole array of new slang terms of which the old generation (us now) will disapprove, and another 50 years later those words will have made their way into mainstream language.

    I'd say its endlessly fascinating.
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    Sep 15, 2010 4:46 AM GMT
    Fall Out Boy - G.I.N.A.S.F.S.


    Gay is not a synonym for shitty. ;)
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    Sep 15, 2010 5:22 AM GMT
    amar_m said

    It gets used that way ever since I think South Park introduced it ;) It was satirical but people picked up on it the wrong way I believe



    The smiley face does mean that you're being satirical when you attribute the beginning of this usage to South Park, yes?

  • Sep 15, 2010 5:24 AM GMT
    saillwithhmee saidI propose that from now on we stop using the word "gay" as a synonym for stupid and start using it as a synonym for awesome.


    That is such a gay idea.
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    Sep 15, 2010 5:30 AM GMT
    I've started saying

    "That's so homosexual"

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    Sep 15, 2010 5:30 AM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    mindgarden saidI generally disapprove of inventing new meanings for words that already have perfectly good ones. It's disingenuous.



    It's not so much inventing... language just evolves, naturally. Try picking up a book from the beginning of the last century and you'll notice how quickly things change.

    By the time you're old, your grandchildren will be using a whole array of new slang terms of which the old generation (us now) will disapprove, and another 50 years later those words will have made their way into mainstream language.

    I'd say its endlessly fascinating.


    In this particular case, its more like devolving when a word that is used to describe something positive or a description of sexual orientation is now taking the trend of describing stupidity, brought on by miseducated pedestrians and homophobic androphiles.
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:47 AM GMT
    I think it is just too ingrained to try to do anything about it now. It is just like how people say "that's retarded." I don't get offended when I hear it and never have...
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    Sep 15, 2010 9:01 AM GMT
    this thread is so straight
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    Sep 15, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    semaj562 saidI think it is just too ingrained to try to do anything about it now. It is just like how people say "that's retarded." I don't get offended when I hear it and never have...


    I am glad you brought this up Sema,

    I know many people who happen to have retarded brothers/sisters/children and thus do NOT like that term being used.

    Every time they say "that's gay" I kindly remind them that they are basically saying "that's retarded". Since then I nothing is really that gay or retarded..

    However any change to make "that's gay" into a positive I will support.
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    Sep 15, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    charlitos saidthis thread is so straight



    Good lord, sometimes we think so much alike it's scary.

    I saw a girl snapping her shoulder bra strap in a line-up yesterday while shopping. Her boyfriend thought it was funny so he tried it too.
    SNAP! He broke it. She spun around, slapped his arm and called him a stupid fuck.

    Things got rather quiet in the line, lol.

    To Mom I said sotto voce, "How hetero is that?"
    She cackled like a chicken all the way back to the car.


    -Doug