Barack Obama on Gay Marriage in 2004.....

  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Feb 27, 2008 7:38 PM GMT
    I just came across this video of Barack Obama in 2004 talking about gay marriage. Of course, hes far from perfect, but, I think it shows just how genuinely he believes in supporting our community and how important it is to move away from the "Blame Gay People!!!!" mentality that much of our country has had in the past.

    Remember this is from 2004 when he was running for election to the Illinois senate. Barack isn't just trying to drum up votes in 2008 to be president, he has consistently supported us for years.

    ***The first few minutes are the good part. Alan Keys is nuts (and ended up losing in a landslide) so feel free to completely ignore him...***

    BTW, I think the reporter plays for our team... Hes seems VERY interested in this subject. lol. Thoughts?


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    Feb 27, 2008 8:28 PM GMT
    Very interesting. I had no idea he was for gay rights.

    and I agree, lol.. I think he plays for our team.
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    Feb 27, 2008 8:31 PM GMT
    and btw.. that other dude needs to be gagged, and beat around a few times.
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    Feb 27, 2008 8:40 PM GMT
    Here's a good one:

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    Feb 27, 2008 9:49 PM GMT
    That was a great posting. I didn’t know Obama felt that way. I think basically he is talking about the separation of church and state. Most Christian religions have a set view on marriage; they think it is the union between a man and a woman. I think in terms of government, marriage is seen a legal contract that affords right and responsibility to the two individuals. I think Obama’s statements show that he believe that the gay and lesbian community have an inherent claim to these rights. Should the gay and lesbian community be afforded these rights? We should be. Do we have to call it marriage? I don’t know. Is it more important to have the label or just the things the label gives you?
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    Feb 27, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    THANKS Paradigm!!!
  • jarhead5536

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    Feb 27, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    And yet he put an exgay bigot onstage in SC to pander to the black Christian voters. Thanks for the slap in the face, Barack.

    I felt betrayed by a friend and I won't let it go...
  • drakutis

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    Feb 27, 2008 10:08 PM GMT
    Alan Keys is just pathetic. I saw his daughter on a news clip for a gay rally at college a few years ago and she is a lesbian. He disowned her because of that. I think she goes to Howard University if I'm not mistaken. But she was just heart broken and it was sad. BTW, what is Mr. Keys doing these days?
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    Feb 27, 2008 10:11 PM GMT
    hahahahhaah....That first clip is hilarious. It is unbelievable that civilized people have to sit around and ponder whether legalizing gay marriage will increase incest. It's only logical that it will!

  • drakutis

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    Feb 27, 2008 10:15 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidAnd yet he put an exgay bigot onstage in SC to pander to the black Christian voters. Thanks for the slap in the face, Barack.

    I felt betrayed by a friend and I won't let it go...


    I won't hold him responsible for Ms. McClurkin's appearance, at first I was upset about it, but not anymore. I have from an inside source the he's still doing his thing and praying about it!! WHATEVER!!! Life goes on. As a country we're in a much worse situation that needs to be fixed. It's bigger than being gay.
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    Feb 27, 2008 10:19 PM GMT
    Thanks for that. Obama is great. If I hadn't set myself on voting for Hilary, then he may be my next option, along with McCain. He stands for some of my values, but even this one isn't enough to throw me overboard for him. If only a cute lesbian, minority race, nonchristian candidate would get so far as Hilary and Obama, then I'd vote for them.
  • twostroke

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    Feb 27, 2008 10:41 PM GMT
    OBAMA.....? LIKE FRESH OXYGEN!!! -just imagine...-
    hope he gets all the support.
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    Feb 27, 2008 10:57 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidAnd yet he put an exgay bigot onstage in SC to pander to the black Christian voters. Thanks for the slap in the face, Barack.

    I felt betrayed by a friend and I won't let it go...


    Then he apologized and lives completely opposite of McClurkin's lifestyle. He isn't pandering. 70 times 7, right?
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    Feb 27, 2008 11:00 PM GMT
    haha, I love Alan Keyes. That is great. His daughter is a lesbian, and he disowned her. My parents wanted to vote for him once. Ugh.
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    Feb 27, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    The minister in SC was sad. But Obama also put an openly gay minister up there at the same time.

    Additionally, he denounced bigotry against GLBT folks at a rally in TEXAS. So he is certainly willing to stick his neck out there.

    Also, the nations youngest super-delegate who is also openly gay is throwing his crisp little weight behind Obama.

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    oh ya, Alan Keyes is hilarious.
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    Feb 28, 2008 12:33 AM GMT
    In the first clip, which is from the local PBS station WTTW11, the reporter is from a nightly show called Chicago Tonight. His name is Phil Ponce. He's married with children, so I think he probably falls into that "straight but not narrow" category... unless, of course, he's on the DL...

    As for Obama, I tend to agree. The institution of "Marriage" in this country carries with it a lot of religious baggage, despite the fact that marriage has existed since long before Christianity. I really don't care what they call it as long as I have the legal right to "marry" my partner and we're afforded the same legal standing, protection, and benefits of traditional marriage. They could call it "merging" for all I care... its not the label I want, its what the label affords my partner and I. We'd need new terminology though...

    Here's Obama's 2008 policy on issues pertaining to the LGBT community, in PDF format. http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/lgbt.pdf

    As for Alan Keys... after he lost to Obama, he seems to have dropped off the radar. I haven't heard anything about him on the local news since that election...
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    Feb 28, 2008 4:05 AM GMT
    oh, and released today was this flyer in Ohio
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  • Paradigm_Shif...

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    Feb 28, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    Awesome Post Zombie!

    Thanks for the video TRUE!


    Yeah, it seems Obama has been in the past, and still is a strong advocate for gay rights. He just hasn't shouted everything hes done to support us from the rooftops just to get votes (Like some other candidates may do.... cough, Rody....)

    WIth that new poster, it looks like he is doing a better job of reaching out and letting people know where he stands.


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    Feb 28, 2008 11:24 AM GMT
    He's even given us our own section on his website. You can check it out here... http://pride.barackobama.com/page/content/lgbthome

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  • bradsmith

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    Apr 02, 2008 2:52 PM GMT
    Thanks for the post! Obama's speech on race really converted me; but it's nice to see things like this...from 4 years ago...to further reassure me that he's held his views for a while and that he's not backing down from them. It's a little weird to find a presidential candidate that's so forthright...am I in some group hallucination? (grin)

    And thanks to the rest of you who posted the additional links and clips...they've all gone out to my distribution lists!
    mark.
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    Apr 02, 2008 3:12 PM GMT
    Obama courts religious conservatives, gays, army vets, whites, blacks, men, women. He hauls out people with more radical views than him, across the entire political spectrum.

    He is forcing us to consider uniting with others who may disagree with us on certain points. He is challenging us to live together. Bush, McCain, and Clinton prefer to parse us out, alienate some, pander to others, and thus continue to divide us, which enables them to wield more power.

    In other words, this guy transcends so much that is wrong with our current political system (media included), which seeks to divide us and subsequently allows the powers that be to act against our collective best interests.

    As so many of his endorsements echo, we could have a once-in-a-lifetime president here.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 03, 2008 11:51 PM GMT
    Obama is the best choice for president because he wants all Americans to come together and help solve the country's many serious problems. He is very inclusive and wants equality and opportunity for all Americans. Clinton and McCain are just establishment politicians who love the status quo and will not change a thing in Wsahington. icon_smile.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 03, 2008 11:55 PM GMT
    As for Alan Keyes he is totally irrelevant and an anti-gay idiot. He obviously knows nothing about gay and lesbian Americans so he should do the American public a long overdue favor by keeping his homophobic, ignorant comments to himself.
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    Apr 04, 2008 4:05 AM GMT
    Obama is sexy, yes, i confess....

    keyes gets on my nerves, i have no other intellectual or useful input