Ireland - Two-thirds support gay marriage, poll finds

  • metta

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    Sep 15, 2010 8:42 AM GMT
    Ireland - Two-thirds support gay marriage, poll finds

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0915/1224278900109.html
  • trirl

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    Sep 15, 2010 12:27 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting this link. I'd really like to know if the question in the poll was actually "do you support gay marriage" or was it "do you support civil partnership." This summer, the Irish government passed a civil partnership law which provides a fair amount of protection, but it's not full marriage. I wonder if respondents were thinking of that law when answering.

    Either way, its great to see Ireland progress so well. I think the Irish people are so horrified by church abuse scandals that started to emerge in the 90s they are throwing off the Catholic church influence that has weighed for hundreds of years.

    Also, its a small country with just over 4m people, so easier bring about change at the ballot box. But I also agree that while the older generation enjoy gay personalities on TV, having one in their own family is a very different story.

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    Sep 15, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    The Catholic church has had scandalous reputations in Ireland, Ive been told stories in the pubs about how they would take pregnant unmarried girls into the convents and abuse them physically and sexually..... some of them would feign insanity so they would be put in the asylums and were treated much better there
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    Sep 15, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
    Id like to see what the Irish nationals on RJ have to say about this, come on out cuties!!! icon_surprised.gif
  • hdurdinr

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    Sep 15, 2010 8:23 PM GMT
    I'm an Irish national and in Ireland at the moment and I've been unaware of this poll! Haven't been watching tv though. I agree with the Aussie - Irish people are generally okay with other people being gay, just not members of their own family - but you'd never see a large group of people protesting against gay marriage like for instance in California. The majority of people don't care whether or not you're gay - they might talk about it around town for a week and then they'd be over it and on to the next exciting piece of news - the Irish LOVE to gossip!
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    Well i heard about this poll on the news this morning though that was the first I have heard about it. Things have definitely changed here over the years, given that homosexuality was only decriminalised in this country since '93, we have come a long way. I think the poll referred to 'marriage' as opposed to civil partnership though i can't be sure. But I think there is a part of Irish people who have the mentality of 'it's cool so long as it's not my family' about lots of issues. Anyway, a good result from the Irish methinks!
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    hdurdinr said - the Irish LOVE to gossip!


    Ya hit that nail on the head!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:37 PM GMT
    this is cool, i was reading about this in the paper today, front page and all!
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:37 PM GMT
    hdurdinr saidI'm an Irish national and in Ireland at the moment and I've been unaware of this poll! Haven't been watching tv though. I agree with the Aussie - Irish people are generally okay with other people being gay, just not members of their own family - but you'd never see a large group of people protesting against gay marriage like for instance in California. The majority of people don't care whether or not you're gay - they might talk about it around town for a week and then they'd be over it and on to the next exciting piece of news - the Irish LOVE to gossip!


    Lol thats so typical of the Caribbean as well.. island culture perhaps, or the extensive influence the irish indentured workers had on the Caribbean culture

    (notable especially in Caribbean english dialects, which is very celtic in its structure and pronunciation)

    a typical Irish conversation: "how's so-and-so?" "Grand they got that job after all"

    A typical Caribbean one: "how's your grandfather/grandmother/sister/brother/any other family member?" "O good, they are presently... bladibladibla"

    Heres one about the Catholic church, gayness, and a typical Irish conversation lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHh3ykPQEl4
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
    Irish89 said
    hdurdinr said - the Irish LOVE to gossip!


    Ya hit that nail on the head!icon_biggrin.gif


    Hahahaa Im hearing ya hit dat nail on de head! icon_razz.gif ;)
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:59 PM GMT
    I'm Irish and I am quite sure that this poll is a load of bullcrap, Ireland is still very backwards even though it is improving. Most people don't really care about gay people, however again like previous members have said, its COMPLETELY different if it's one of their own blood or someone they know.
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    Sep 16, 2010 1:45 AM GMT
    amar_m said
    hdurdinr saidI'm an Irish national and in Ireland at the moment and I've been unaware of this poll! Haven't been watching tv though. I agree with the Aussie - Irish people are generally okay with other people being gay, just not members of their own family - but you'd never see a large group of people protesting against gay marriage like for instance in California. The majority of people don't care whether or not you're gay - they might talk about it around town for a week and then they'd be over it and on to the next exciting piece of news - the Irish LOVE to gossip!


    Lol thats so typical of the Caribbean as well.. island culture perhaps, or the extensive influence the irish indentured workers had on the Caribbean culture

    (notable especially in Caribbean english dialects, which is very celtic in its structure and pronunciation)

    a typical Irish conversation: "how's so-and-so?" "Grand they got that job after all"

    A typical Caribbean one: "how's your grandfather/grandmother/sister/brother/any other family member?" "O good, they are presently... bladibladibla"

    Heres one about the Catholic church, gayness, and a typical Irish conversation lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHh3ykPQEl4


    That's so funny you should mention that! I was working in the Bahamas a while back with some builders, and I noted when the day was over, the only thing that was different about them compared to the Irish builders was their colour and accent!