What is the right diet/food for humans to eat? What food do you digest properly?

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    Sep 15, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    Everytime I eat rib-eye steak with a lot of fatty bits everything digests perfectly for me, and comes out as clean as a whistle. I always eat steak rare with maybe a teaspoon or two of soy sauce, so I think that might have something to do with it as well.

    Everytime I eat pot roast with carrots, onions, celery everything digests properly for me as well.

    Whenever I eat a salad it never comes out clean on the opposite end, it's as if my body doesn't know how to digest leafy material properly, even with digestive enzymes that I've tried that are supposed to break down the cellulose matter better. The same with nuts/seeds, even raw sprouted ones, or in a butter spread, my body doesn't seem to digest them properly and I always feel sick after eating them, maybe because they go rancid too quick.

    Some fruits taste too sugary or acidic too me so I avoid them. I like blueberries, and lemon/lime in water. I've tried green/fruit smoothies but they tend to always make my stomach hurt after consuming them.

    Pasta/Starches/Bread I never have really cared to eat. They always just seem like a filler food with not much valuable nutrients.

    Whenever I eat Sushi I feel as if my body has a hard time breaking down the rice and it usually never comes out clean. I wish they would make a rice-less sushi. As I love sashimi and dried seaweed.

    I don't use protein powders or any isolated supplements. Protein powders always make me feel bloated regardless of what kind. I've tried milk based protein, hemp, soy, and rice.

    I've always judged food by the way it comes out on the opposite end. I like the idea of never having to wipe my ass. As it seems counter-intuitive to have to do so, doesn't it? So I stick with foods (mostly fatty meats) that digest well for me. Is this the right way to go about it? How do you judge what food is right for you?
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:44 PM GMT
    Mousey saidWhenever I eat Sushi I feel as if my body has a hard time breaking down the rice and it usually never comes out clean. I wish they would make a rice-less sushi.

    Try cucumber wrapped rolls: http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/TBqoWtU0Vj98Cu1-V7c4Sw?select=NjvSFHC7XY5g0ZQ4eZ5iFQ
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    Sep 15, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
    Dude, you are supposed to poop. That is why you have a digestive system.
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    Sep 15, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidDude, you are supposed to poop. That is why you have a digestive system.



    I know...but your poop should come out clean, right? It shouldn't come out messy where you need to use a half a roll of toilet paper, ya know? Sometimes it's just bad food combinations, other times it's a certain food that causes it for me. I tend to avoid those foods. It seems as if I do best on a animal meat/fat diet so far as I never have any problem digesting it compared to salads.
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    Sep 15, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
    Really good idea to do follow that. You're poop should be solid, not too hard and not have much of a scent.

    People will probably give you flack though saying you're SUPPOSED to eat a billion grains and greens though. Even if you're doing just fine without them. I find too I feel wicked after a big ole' fatty steak.
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    Sep 15, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    xKorix saidReally good idea to do follow that. You're poop should be solid, not too hard and not have much of a scent.

    People will probably give you flack though saying you're SUPPOSED to eat a billion grains and greens though. Even if you're doing just fine without them. I find too I feel wicked after a big ole' fatty steak.


    I think it might be the animal fat. I've been reading about native diets lately, eskimos, and indians. And many of them would go to great lengths just to consume the animal fat (blubber of fish/seals/whales for eskimos) and bone marrow of an animal (just indians did this). I think the fat might act as a natural lubricant perhaps for the digestive track and makes everything go down easy. I'm no doctor so I'm not for sure, but after eating high animal fat I never have digestive issues. Also eskimos and indians didn't use toilet paper. I imagine they don't have too if they stay on their native diet. There is something about animal fat that I just love.
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    Sep 15, 2010 10:48 PM GMT
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    Mousey saidWhenever I eat Sushi I feel as if my body has a hard time breaking down the rice and it usually never comes out clean. I wish they would make a rice-less sushi.

    Try cucumber wrapped rolls: http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/TBqoWtU0Vj98Cu1-V7c4Sw?select=NjvSFHC7XY5g0ZQ4eZ5iFQ


    thanks for that. I'll see if my sushi chef can make these. I go to a local sushi bar to order.
  • justinlee86

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    Sep 15, 2010 11:04 PM GMT
    Also, remember that your body is amazing at adapting to change. If you generally eat fatty meats and processed foods your body will adapt to it. Is it always best for you? No, not really! Researchers say that we are the most fat and malnourished society in history.

    You must remember that it is best to eat a well balanced diet in order for your body to receive it's nutrients, minerals and be healthy!

    Health is key...your body will adjust and you will eventually defecate regularly and normal.
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    Sep 15, 2010 11:37 PM GMT
    Mousey said

    Whenever I eat a salad it never comes out clean on the opposite end, it's as if my body doesn't know how to digest leafy material properly, even with digestive enzymes that I've tried that are supposed to break down the cellulose matter better.




    I wasn't aware that our bodies could digest cellulose. This is why when you eat corn...well I think you get the picture. I don't know why any reasonable person would want to recommend or even take an enzyme to digest the material, because that is naturally not how our bodies work. (Every human lacks the digestive enzyme to digest cellulose)

    Why are you getting a looser, smellier stool? Likely it is washing out all the backed up crap that is rotting in your digestive tract, which tells me you should do fiber more often. (Yes I went there) icon_biggrin.gif

    The purpose of fruits and veggies:
    Cellulose in the diet is to provide bulk which moves through your digestive tract kind of like a sweep and while doing so releases nutrients into the digestive tract like vitamins, minerals, etc. If you are only eating fatty meats, then there will eventually be a ton of undigested blockage in your digestive tract which later in life will cause you pain. If you sweep it out regularly with the cellulose, then it won't build up.

    Life is give and take. Is it sometimes inconvenient to have a messy stool, sure but a runny nose is also inconvenient, but there is a reason for it.
    Learn to wipe your ass because when you are old you will wish you could have a liquid bowel movement and gladly wipe your ass, but if you are constipated and blocked, there won't be any ass wiping, my friend.
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    Sep 16, 2010 2:02 AM GMT
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    I wasn't aware that our bodies could digest cellulose. This is why when you eat corn...well I think you get the picture. I don't know why any reasonable person would want to recommend or even take an enzyme to digest the material, because that is naturally not how our bodies work. (Every human lacks the digestive enzyme to digest cellulose)


    xuaerbIf you are only eating fatty meats, then there will eventually be a ton of undigested blockage in your digestive tract which later in life will cause you pain.


    Yet health gurus recommend eating it all the time, when we can't even digest it properly! Your claims of it being some bulk material to clean out our digestive track I consider rubbish. It's never had that effect on me. The only thing I see coming out after a salad is what was in that salad. Fatty pieces of meat on the other hand makes everything come out clean and nice. I've never had any problem digesting fatty pieces of meats, or even lean cuts of meat.

    You say fatty meats cause undigested blockage in your digestive track.. That's a ridiculous claim, much like those who believe gum doesn't digest and will stay in your gut til' the day you die. I'll stick with what works for me.
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    Sep 16, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
    I read a study some years ago that claimed that different humans are genetically disposed to digest certain food types better than other types, based on their ancient ancestry. Some humans do best with meat, some with seafoods, others with grains and vegetables, etc. Presumably this is a result of the kinds of foods that different bands of early humans primarily ate, based on available local food sources over very long periods of time, to which people adapted.

    But I never saw that study mentioned again, so I don't know if it is now considered valid, discredited, forgotten, or what.
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    Sep 16, 2010 2:29 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI read a study some years ago that claimed that different humans are genetically disposed to digest certain food types better than other types, based on their ancient ancestry. Some humans do best with meat, some with seafoods, others with grains and vegetables. Presumably this is a result of the kinds of foods that different bands of early humans primarily ate, based on available local food sources over very long periods of time, to which people adapted.

    But I never saw that study mentioned again, so I don't know if it is now considered valid, discredited, forgotten, or what.



    Weston Price did a study on teeth and different native diets many, many years ago. He found that those who still ate their native diet were the most healthy and had the straightest teeth and no cavities compared to those who ate processed foods and other crap that was introduced to them.

    You can read his book online here:
    http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html


    It's interesting to note that many native people didn't eat many vegetables or fruits (except maybe in the summer months) yet had perfect teeth with no cavities.
  • LJay

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    Sep 16, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    Fiber--think oatmeal, cabbage, broccoli, veggies in general, beans, whole grains, etc.--helps to keep your system working properly by providing bulk, "scouring" the digestive tract and, in doing so also providing lots of nutrients.

    You want slick bowel movements, eat grease. You want an efficient digestive system, eat fiber and a well balanced diet. And don't forget water. It is vital to the process. That is not to say that steak is a totally bad thing, but it is not the only thing.

    Your notion that everything is supposed to pass cleanly through is a bit misinformed, though the waste should not require too much trouble.

    You need to sit down and have a serious talk with a doctor about this before you end up with an increased risk of bowel disease later on. You might consider talking with a psychologist, too. This is not a little strange in a compulsive way.
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    Sep 16, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    LJay saidFiber--think oatmeal, cabbage, broccoli, veggies in general, beans, whole grains, etc.--helps to keep your system working properly by providing bulk, "scouring" the digestive tract and, in doing so also providing lots of nutrients.

    You want slick bowel movements, eat grease. You want an efficient digestive system, eat fiber and a well balanced diet. And don't forget water. It is vital to the process. That is not to say that steak is a totally bad thing, but it is not the only thing.

    Your notion that everything is supposed to pass cleanly through is a bit misinformed, though the waste should not require too much trouble.

    You need to sit down and have a serious talk with a doctor about this before you end up with an increased risk of bowel disease later on. You might consider talking with a psychologist, too. This is not a little strange in a compulsive way.



    LOL...yeah ok...
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    Sep 16, 2010 4:31 AM GMT
    vegetarian here for the past 2 years and since i completely eliminated meat from my diet, my whole digestive system has been much better.
    no more heartburns for one thing, no sensation of heaviness after eating.


    as a kid my mom had the hardest time getting me to eat meat and i never grew to love it.
  • xKorix

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    Sep 16, 2010 1:53 PM GMT
    LOL I was right people giving you flack saying there's something wrong with you and your supposed to eat this and that even if you're doing fine without it.
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    Sep 16, 2010 2:02 PM GMT
    I'm a true omnivore, not only in my dentition, but in my digestion generally. I can, and do, eat just about every kind of food you can find on a US menu or in stores, plus I eat at almost every kind of ethnic restaurant we have here. My few dislikes are mostly dealing with specific recipes, not with the basic food items themselves.

    But I can have minor digestion issues with some foods, and so I'm careful with those, while not strictly ignoring them. Too much red meat can give me indigestion and stomach cramps, so I go light on it. With smaller portions I'm perfectly OK, and I do enjoy a medium-rare steak.

    And a petite cut does save me money, which is enough food in front of me to make me happy. We Americans really do have a bad habit of overloading our plates with more than we should be eating at one sitting, which itself can lead to digestion problems, no matter what the food happens to be.

    Bell peppers can have me belching for hours, which is more socially awkward for me than a real source of discomfort or illness. So I just nibble a tiny bit if I find them in a salad or something, especially when eating in company, because I do like the flavor. My late father had exactly the same problem, BTW, and in fact my diet has evolved over the years to a near carbon-copy of his, except for my deliberate avoidance of fried foods, grease & many fats.

    Suggesting to me that some aspects of our digestion, and possibly our taste preferences, may include a genetic component. Along with being influenced by the foods we were first fed as children, an aspect of the concept of "comfort foods."
  • d_1M

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    Sep 16, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
    i guess i have a good digestive system the only thing makes me sick on my stomach is milk on a empty stomach, but after food im ok with milk also.

    my worse diet is the seefood diet. hehe
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    Sep 16, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    Oh, I forgot my issue with shellfish, especially shrimp. Used to have no problem, eating mass quantities, until the VA did an X-ray study on me using an injection of contrast dye, that was high in iodine. Had ones previously done with no problems.

    So I drove home from the hospital, and going into the bathroom I noticed in the mirror that my face was all blotchy bright red, and my chest, too, like a burn victim, while other parts of my skin were looking blue. A few minutes later in the bedroom I started having trouble breathing, and I remembered them telling me something about watching out for such a reaction.

    I phoned the VA, and by now I could barely talk, gasping for air, my throat closing up. They told me I'm likely experiencing anaphylactic shock, a serious medical emergency. I should return to the VA hospital immediately.

    No way! I'm 65 miles away, live alone, and now incapacitated in a tiny farming town with only a small civilian clinic I've never used, that had no ambulance service of which I was aware. It was impossible to drive myself for over an hour over rural roads back to the VA.

    I asked the nurse at the other end to stay on the line with me, and to call our local police to come rescue me if I passed out (she had my address on file). She wanted that done immediately but I tried to talk her out of it, hating such drama, believe it or not. Well, within 20 minutes the symptoms started to clear, all the time her constantly talking to me to make me respond to her, and I never did need any medical assistance.

    To this day, however, I have to tell medical facilities not to use any iodine contrast with me. And as for shrimp, I can't gorge anymore like I once did, or a red rash will start to form again. But I still eat shrimp, just in small amounts now, and do perfectly well. I can handle a shrimp cocktail of 5 or so, and that's all a man should need, right? icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 16, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
    Um Art Deco, not that I want you to get an histamine attack again, but iodine contrast allergy is not equal to shellfish allergy:
    http://allergies.about.com/od/medicationallergies/a/rcmallergy.htmDespite the popular myth, having seafood and shellfish allergy does not place a person at increased risk of having a reaction to RCM. Shellfish allergy is due to the protein content of these foods, not the iodine content. In addition, those people with allergy to topical iodine cleaners or iodides are at no increased risk for reactions to RCM.

    Reactions to RCM are not truly allergic in nature, meaning that there is no allergic antibody present that causes the reaction. Rather, RCM acts to directly release histamine and other chemicals from mast cells.


    It's possible to get contrast used in the future if you premedicate with steroids and antihistamine blockers.

    But back to our topic...
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    Sep 16, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidUm Art Deco, not that I want you to get an histamine attack again, but iodine contrast allergy is not equal to shellfish allergy:.

    So beginning with the time I had a violent reaction to iodine contrast, I subsequently began to show a rash afterwards when I ate shrimp, which I never had before. And you say they are not related?

    Before they injected the iodine contrast dye each time, I was asked if I was allergic to shellfish. I answered no, because I never was. Now my VA medical record says I am both allergic to iodine contrast, and to shellfish, and the doctors confirmed this relationship to me.

    I do not understand your references and medical credentials to doubt what my doctors told me. But I will admit that VA doctors and technicians are rather bottom-of-the-barrel.

    Nevertheless, I only know that I was given some kind of contrast dye, that I was told involved iodine, which may not have been the same one you are describing. And I was told never to eat shellfish again, prohibitions I have since followed only in moderation, but not absolutely.
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    Sep 16, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    No, a lot of doctors have to put this untruth about shellfish and IV contrast in their charts because of liability issues.
    As the article I quoted said, it's not a true anaphylactic reaction--the term should be "anaphylactoid" because there's no IgE involved...which explains why you cannot get a stronger (anamestic) response to a second contrast exposure.

    Iodinated contrast and radioopaque iodinated contrast (RCM) are the same (all IV contrast used in CTs have iodine).
    http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/24/suppl_1/S3.fulln the past, many thought that an allergy to shellfish was a predictor of an increased risk of a reaction to a contrast agent, presumably because both shellfish and contrast agents contain iodine. Such a relationship is clearly not true. Organic iodide as found in shellfish is an essential element, so individuals cannot be allergic to it.


    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/756150-overviewIV administered radiocontrast media causes an anaphylactoid reaction that is clinically similar to true anaphylaxis and is treated in the same way. The reaction is not related to prior exposure. Shellfish or iodine allergy is not a contraindication to use of IV contrast and does not mandate a pretreatment regimen. As with any allergic patient, give consideration to use of low molecular weight (LMW) contrast.

    * The term iodine allergy is a misnomer. Iodine is an essential trace element present throughout the body. No one is allergic to iodine. Patients who report iodine allergy usually have had either a prior contrast reaction, a shellfish allergy, or a contact reaction to povidone-iodine (Betadine). Manage these patients as indicated earlier.


    And yes, I do know what I'm talking about...
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
    And your doctors might have fibbed on the contrast/shellfish thing to lower your cholesterol...giving them the benefit of the doubt.
    And I do love shrimp and clams too...lots of protein and cholesterol.

    The perfect food for human beings is probably TOFU. It's got everything in it and is easy to digest. Many different ways to cook it.