What is with gay guys and not having a drivers license and or vehicle?

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    Sep 16, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    Ive talked to a lot of guys around my area and well over half of them do not drive, cannot drive, or do no own a vehicle.. now most of my friends are straight, I cant think of a single one of them that doesnt at least have a drivers license. So what gives? Are cars in general just not interesting to a lot of gay guys? icon_mad.gif It definitely is annoying to go on a date and to always be the one who drives. Cant someone pick me up for once? haha icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 16, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
    what time should i being revving up outside and will i have to meet your dad????icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 16, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
    I thought that way till moving to South Florida. Here, almost everyone has a car.
    But before moving here (and especially while living in Tampa Bay), I shared your sentiment.
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    Sep 16, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    At 58 years old I have never driven a car in my life -
    Correction: I did have driving lessons when I was in my twenties, but I failed to gain enough confidence to carry through to the test - but I did ride a motorbike for several years in the 1970s.
    If owning and driving a certain type of car expresses masculinity, well I guess I failed....but my experience on the roads tells me that the most dangerous drivers are men with a very low self esteem, that is to say, hopeless in bed. Next and almost equal threat are ambitious, high flying career girls. They are the ones who lie face up in bed and pondering over an office issue just as her partner explodes in a sexual climax.
    To get about I peddle a pushbike. I know, I cycled across Western Europe, the whole length of Britain, I partook in quite a number of triathlons in my day, as well as fast 60 mile burn-ups to the coast.
    But without a car, my masculinity isn't complete, is it?
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    Sep 16, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    NotThatOld saidAt 58 years old I have never driven a car in my life -
    Correction: I did have driving lessons when I was in my twenties, but I failed to gain enough confidence to carry through to the test - but I did ride a motorbike for several years in the 1970s.
    If owning and driving a certain type of car expresses masculinity, well I guess I failed....but my experience on the roads tells me that the most dangerous drivers are men with a very low self esteem, that is to say, hopeless in bed. Next and almost equal threat are ambitious, high flying career girls. They are the ones who lie face up in bed and pondering over an office issue just as her partner explodes in a sexual climax.
    To get about I peddle a pushbike. I know, I cycled across Western Europe, the whole length of Britain, I partook in quite a number of triathlons in my day, as well as fast 60 mile burn-ups to the coast.
    But without a car, my masculinity isn't complete, is it?


    That was deep.

    Im not it has anything to do with masculinity considering every girl i know drives too..
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    Sep 16, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
    every guy i know has a car, SO many of my female friends dont drive and dont even feel the need to!! it got to the point that i now refuse to pick anyone up from anywhere or drop them off, all this shit uses petrol and this shit costs money. It's wrong to thing so, but due to the way society has molded me, I always assume a man without a car is a waster and has no ambition or is broke (which kinda implies the former two labels).
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
    I'm afraid I was one of those car-less freaks. I was taught how to drive as a teenager (yes, I drive a good stick) but then found I had epilepsy (not the big scary, shaking kind) so I let the driving idea go. Then I was living in NyC & SF for a little over ten years, so I didn't see the point. Since moving to Upstate New York I have in fact gotten my license and have a car.. . Different strokes I guess. I've never thought of driving as a deal breaker, but can see your point
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    i got my license within 2 weeks of being able to apply for it and had a vehicle long before i cud legally drive. I have never been without a vehicle since the day i got my license. in fact, ive had 3 running and plated simultaneously, lol. All my friends drive, in fact most people in the city drive. i only can think of 3 people i know that do not have a license. two of which are housewives in their 50's-60's. the other girl just never bothered to get one. its a right of passage here, like graduating or buying ur first pack of smokes or porno mag. Ive been driving since before i was legally able to, on grid roads. I was able to drive stick before i even had a learners. maybe its just the prairie mentality. I dont know.
  • Delivis

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    Sep 17, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
    I have had a car and driver license for years but much prefer to walk or bike or take public transit when i can.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
    I don't have a car because I have no need for one. The grocery store is about half a mile away, work is about the same distance, and any bar that I'd want to go to lies somewhere inbetween.

    As far as bigger shopping, I find out when my friends are running errands and tag along (always giving them a few dollar for gas, and usually buying them lunch).

    The only time I need one is if I'm planning on going out of the city to do anything, but again... usually a few of my friends are planning along the same lines.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    I had a car wreck in 2006 and didn't drive for 2 years. Other than that 2 year period i always had a car. I ended up buying a mountain bike and road that everywhere during that period.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    I'm 27 and I don't plan getting a driver's license. Maybe if I move to some place where public transportation is bad... I wonder if straight guys would be so eager to buy cars if it didn't make them more attractive to women and if they also had the burden of having to look physically attractive.

    What I spend on supplements and gym fees is almost what my straight coworkers are spending on their cars (which happen to be extremely expensive and tax stricken in Brazil). When I reach my physical goal I will have spent enough money to buy a good car.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    A lot of gay guys around my old town drove without a license (kinda lazy right?) I never understood why they just didn't get their license.
    I personally love driving. Especially in a little sports car with a stick shift icon_lol.gif At a light that turns green and you pop it into first and take off really fast icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
    I have a license and have owned a few cars however, living in a large city I have no need of one so I sold mine 10 years ago. I walk almost everywhere and when I'm running late hop on the subway. If I need a car, I rent one.

    Things I don't miss about car ownership:
    1. INSURANCE!
    2. Maintenance
    3. Parking - in a city is very expensive; condo parking can cost an extra $30K on a mortgage
    4. Driving in the city at rush hour
    5. Expensive to buy and they lose their value as soon as they're driven off the lot

    All that said, I understand the need for them in suburbs etc, but in the city with a good transit system, I think why bother?

    Cheers
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:32 AM GMT
    Why arent you asking them? ... just saying
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
    Many of the gay guys here in Sydney that live close to the city don't have a car because they don't need one. They can walk to the gay bars and probably get public transport to work. I live in the 'burbs so I've always had/needed a car.

    But it is frustrating when you meet a guy he doesn't drive so all the expectations are that you will come to him.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    I just put the truck in 4X4 and put the BIG tires on for traction in the mountains....will be there in a few moments....... can we go to Victoria on this date? I like the Chinese food and the Totem Pole park at sunset....
  • mke_bt

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    Sep 17, 2010 1:03 AM GMT

    I gave up my car while Dick Cheney was president. It was my way of protesting.
    Now I don't even miss it. Sure, it would be fun to be able to hop in a car at the spur of the moment but I've adapted.
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    Sep 17, 2010 1:14 AM GMT
    I can't imagine that being the case here, esp since public transport isn't much. So if you don't have a car you probably will be stuck about where all you can go.
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    Sep 17, 2010 1:16 AM GMT
    divvy1985 saidevery guy i know has a car, SO many of my female friends dont drive and dont even feel the need to!! it got to the point that i now refuse to pick anyone up from anywhere or drop them off, all this shit uses petrol and this shit costs money. It's wrong to thing so, but due to the way society has molded me, I always assume a man without a car is a waster and has no ambition or is broke (which kinda implies the former two labels).

    I bet you have a nice car, a big expensive one to show how ambitious and hard working you are, you probably wouldn't be caught dead in some small rinky dink shit box car would you and I bet you don't have one....
  • GQjock

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    Sep 17, 2010 1:17 AM GMT
    I've lived in Manhattan and that was the only period of time where I did not have a car .... no need

    But a grown man who needs to be picked up for each and every date?

    Me and my suspicious mind goes right to ... there's likely a DWI in someone's past

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    Sep 17, 2010 1:18 AM GMT
    probably from DUI or multiple dui offenses, after all, doesn't gay life revolve around the bar scene?

    I don't drink... or go to the bars.... too much drama... and too many cops hiding out looking for a quick bust!

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    Sep 17, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    I just don't need to own one. Where I live I can walk to everything I need. Parking is obscenely expensive. And during rush hour, I can usually get to where I'm going faster by transit. On those rare occasions I do want a car, I can get a Zipcar for 7-10 bucks an hour to make a Costco run. When I have owned a car, I always felt it to be more of a burden than a convenience.
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    Sep 17, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    It also depends where you live, some have pointed out city, suburbs, etc.
    I wish I could live in the city, but it is extremely expensive to own, even in this recession. Try asking a guy to come to the East Bay is as though you had the plague. The convenience of the nightlife, restaurants, attractions, etc. is certainly an attraction you can not compete with the suburbs. And, most do not have a car, all mass transit or bicycle.

    I do not mind going into the city via Bart, but it can be taxing if you are always the one making the sacrifice. Some guys as soon as you tell them where you live is like forget it.icon_sad.gif So, is also damn annoying be a chauffeur, which I refuse to do.
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    Sep 17, 2010 1:31 AM GMT
    Why is it that gays always come up with the stupidest subjects to talk about that generalize groups of people?