Being tiny and doing pushups

  • mizu5

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    Sep 16, 2010 11:50 PM GMT
    So I am 19 5'8 and 130 pounds. I am a former competitive gymnast.

    I was wondering something fairly simple;

    Will doing 100 pushups a day for 2 months make much of a difference in my arms/pecs/shoulders?

    and if not, what other simple at home things can I do, given that I don't really have weights (only 5 and 10 pounds ones).
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:03 AM GMT
    do you mean 100 at a clip??!!!!

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    Sep 17, 2010 12:07 AM GMT
    you need calories, otherwise all those pushups are gonna be a waste....

    they'll help your anterior delts a bit, upper pecs a bit, and triceps a bit... do 20, 45 second break, repeat. don't forget to eat
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
    flex89 saidyou need calories, otherwise all those pushups are gonna be a waste....

    they'll help your anterior delts a bit, upper pecs a bit, and triceps a bit... do 20, 45 second break, repeat. don't forget to eat
    I'm averaging about 4500 cals a day, have been for 2 weeks, with about 90g of protein a day. Should I get protein powder?


    And nono, 20-30 a set, 100 total in a day. I suppose i could up it to 150 or 200.

    But would there be a noticeable difference?
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:16 AM GMT
    mizu5 said
    flex89 saidyou need calories, otherwise all those pushups are gonna be a waste....

    they'll help your anterior delts a bit, upper pecs a bit, and triceps a bit... do 20, 45 second break, repeat. don't forget to eat
    I'm averaging about 4500 cals a day, have been for 2 weeks, with about 90g of protein a day. Should I get protein powder?


    And nono, 20-30 a set, 100 total in a day. I suppose i could up it to 150 or 200.

    But would there be a noticeable difference?


    4500 cals a day, but only 90g protein? What are you eating exactly? Aim for at least 150 (since you're 130), that little shouldn't be difficult.

    There are a lot of body weight exercises, but to build any real amount of muscle, you'll need to a) eat, b) lift.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:19 AM GMT
    There is plenty you can do without weights. But as said above it does nothing with out proper fuel for the recovery.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=work+out+at+home

    You can always sub gallons of milk or pillowcases with canned food in them for weights. Outside of that a backpack filled with books is good too. I just tooled around on google and found this that you might be able to adapt:

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/848554/300_spartan_workout_training_home_version_7/

    Good luck and let us know how it goes!
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:19 AM GMT
    mizu5 said
    flex89 saidyou need calories, otherwise all those pushups are gonna be a waste....

    they'll help your anterior delts a bit, upper pecs a bit, and triceps a bit... do 20, 45 second break, repeat. don't forget to eat
    I'm averaging about 4500 cals a day, have been for 2 weeks, with about 90g of protein a day. Should I get protein powder?


    And nono, 20-30 a set, 100 total in a day. I suppose i could up it to 150 or 200.

    But would there be a noticeable difference?


    I don't even eat 4500 calories a day. Go put everything you eat for the next couple days in a spreadsheet to get some hard numbers.
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    Sep 17, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    flex89 said
    mizu5 said
    flex89 saidyou need calories, otherwise all those pushups are gonna be a waste....

    they'll help your anterior delts a bit, upper pecs a bit, and triceps a bit... do 20, 45 second break, repeat. don't forget to eat
    I'm averaging about 4500 cals a day, have been for 2 weeks, with about 90g of protein a day. Should I get protein powder?


    And nono, 20-30 a set, 100 total in a day. I suppose i could up it to 150 or 200.

    But would there be a noticeable difference?


    I don't even eat 4500 calories a day. Go put everything you eat for the next couple days in a spreadsheet to get some hard numbers.
    I don't normally eat so much ahaha, just the past 2 weeks. Granted, a fairly large number of the past 2 weeks was empty calories! Normally it's about 2500-3000.

    And is protein powder a solid investment?
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    Sep 17, 2010 2:14 AM GMT
    if you want to build, tone or strengthen muscle, you need to eat. As hard as it may be to force yourself to eat (correctly), you just need to suck it up and do it. As far as supplements, that is just what they do... Supplement. You cannot live on powders and pills alone.

    With your pushups and other body weight exercises, have you considered using resistance bands? They are cheap and you can use them with almost every exercise... I even use them with my weight training and the results are great.
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    Sep 17, 2010 3:06 AM GMT
    GBRelentless saidif you want to build, tone or strengthen muscle, you need to eat. As hard as it may be to force yourself to eat (correctly), you just need to suck it up and do it. As far as supplements, that is just what they do... Supplement. You cannot live on powders and pills alone.

    With your pushups and other body weight exercises, have you considered using resistance bands? They are cheap and you can use them with almost every exercise... I even use them with my weight training and the results are great.


    I know google is an option, but as I am not very good at searching google and finding good exercises, can you recommend any website that show how to sue those bands for arms/pecs/shoulders?


    also, I know I have to eat properly. Anything in particular you would recommend?

    And other people said about 150 g of protein a day is good for me weight? (130)
  • mybud

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    Sep 17, 2010 3:22 AM GMT
    150 grams....for you is plenty man....And ya.....push ups are excellent exercise for your arms...forearms and pecs......do it brah...BUD
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    Sep 17, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    Carbs are protein sparing. Best to eat solid food in most cases. Carbs, carbs, and more carbs.

    Protein requirements vary, but, there's some thought that up to 2.2 grams per pound of lean muscle mass isn't a bad idea.

    Bottom line is calories.

    Without, consistent, progressive, overload, you'll not make gains, and just an anterior, chest, workout is NOT a good idea for a long list of reasons.

    Many gymnasts go on to become great bodybuilders, once they start eating and do non-body weight resistance exercises.

    You need to EAT, more than anything, and those calories can come from about anywhere.

    For someone as diminutive as yourself, I recommend the see food diet, where, with the exception of high sugar stuff, if you see food, you eat it, and eat until it hurts. If you're active, and you workout, you can do that.

    Being obese comes from being inactive, eating the wrong food, and having a poor understanding of how to manage your insulin. You'll want to study up on that. A great place to start is bodybuilding.com.

    When I'm very active, I'll eat upwards of 6000 calories a day, but, when I'm not so active, I may only eat 3000 to 3500.

    Calories are the single most important thing for you to attain your goals.

    In the case of flex89, who has worked with me for 3.5 years, we put 85 pounds of lean muscle mass on Logan in about 5 months. Logan is a type 1 diabetic, so...we made lemonade.

    It's important to understand it's mostly applied science.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Sep 17, 2010 5:41 AM GMT
    damn dude, i don't even eat 4500 calories and i am 50lbs heavier. listen, if you are going to do pushups than you should be increasing your total because body will get use to doing it. if i were you i would be doing about 200 pushups right now. in addition, i would find somewhere to do pull ups. if you can do squats and lunges as well. when you are done with your workout please have a simple carb after your workout and then a protein shake. i think you should be eating about 2800 calories a day. all of your meals should consist of protein. also you should be eating 5 to 6 times a day. anyhow, if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
  • mizu5

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    Sep 17, 2010 12:39 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidCarbs are protein sparing. Best to eat solid food in most cases. Carbs, carbs, and more carbs.

    Protein requirements vary, but, there's some thought that up to 2.2 grams per pound of lean muscle mass isn't a bad idea.

    Bottom line is calories.

    Without, consistent, progressive, overload, you'll not make gains, and just an anterior, chest, workout is NOT a guide idea for a long list of reasons.

    Many gymnasts go on to become great bodybuilders, once they start eating and do non-body weight resistance exercises.

    You need to EAT, more than anything, and those calories can come from about anywhere.

    For someone as diminutive as yourself, I recommend the see food diet, where, with the exception of high sugar stuff, if you see food, you eat it, and eat until it hurts. If you're active, and you workout, you can do that.

    Being obese comes from being inactive, eating the wrong food, and having a poor understanding of how to manage your insulin. You'll want to study up on that. A great place to start is bodybuilding.com.

    When I'm very active, I'll eat upwards of 6000 calories a day, but, when I'm not so active, I may only eat 3000 to 3500.

    Calories are the single most important thing for you to attain your goals.

    In the case of flex89, who has worked with me for 3.5 years, we put 85 pounds of lean muscle mass on Logan in about 5 months. Logan is a type 1 diabetic, so...we made lemonade.

    It's important to understand it's mostly applied science.


    When you say carbs, it is appropriate that I am eating thigns like bread, and pasta correct? I can't get many of my carbs from fruit, as I am allergic to raw fruit. But basically, I should be ingesting as many carbs and calories as I can, as long as it isn't pure sugar yes?


    Thank you to everyone who has answered so far! I realize my question is very basic and juvenile, but I'm not quite ready to put in the dedication many of you do. Eventually yes, I just need to build myself up to that and to start fitting things into my schedule and life. <3

    If you have any more tips pleease feel free to drop them! ( I'm making post-it notes to remind myself all the key facts and leaving them on my bathroom mirror!)
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    Sep 17, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
    Firstly, you are insanely cute.

    Secondly, you can do a lot with body weight, as you know, but you are not going to get any bigger without food. Play with push ups (look up variations), dive bombers, pull ups, dips, body weight squats, lunges, bulgarian split squats, and so on (you can work towards pistols, ie one legged squats). With body weight, to really milk it you have to be (1) obsessive about form and not cheating and (2) capable of using visualization to create resistance. Both these things are minor pet topics of mine as they are fundamental to both Pilates and Old Skool physical culture.

    Weights are an aid. You can actually do quite a lot of the work - certainly enough to make a visible difference -without anything.

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    Sep 17, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
    Based on the your short post I am going to make some assumptions that may or may not be true.

    Since you said former gymnast you are not doing your sport so you have lost some size on your upper torso. So to answer your simple question, yes doing push ups will help. Taking in more calories then you use will help you put on weight.

    But what is your goal? You are very young and unless you have some medical problems you should still be able to do your sport which for me would be the best way to go as long as you still enjoy it.

    I am not a fan of bigger is better? Being able to use your body by doing the things you love and doing it for a life time is a better concept for me. Again assuming you have no great body damage from your sport you then can learn new sports, ie water skiing, snow skiing or whatever as you go through life.

    Even if you don't want to do meets anymore the equipment can be utilized to give you a good workout if you still have access to the gym.
  • mizu5

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    Sep 17, 2010 5:20 PM GMT
    Roccoe saidBased on the your short post I am going to make some assumptions that may or may not be true.

    Since you said former gymnast you are not doing your sport so you have lost some size on your upper torso. So to answer your simple question, yes doing push ups will help. Taking in more calories then you use will help you put on weight.

    But what is your goal? You are very young and unless you have some medical problems you should still be able to do your sport which for me would be the best way to go as long as you still enjoy it.

    I am not a fan of bigger is better? Being able to use your body by doing the things you love and doing it for a life time is a better concept for me. Again assuming you have no great body damage from your sport you then can learn new sports, ie water skiing, snow skiing or whatever as you go through life.

    Even if you don't want to do meets anymore the equipment can be utilized to give you a good workout if you still have access to the gym.
    Well I was competing nationally in gymnastics As well as trampoline. I burned out. I went to university, did some cheerleading, but was a tumbler.

    I used to do GS racing. I dance now, so all my muscle in my legs has stayed, but my upper body is a little... shot lol.
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    Sep 17, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
    mizu5 saidI dance now, so all my muscle in my legs has stayed


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    Sep 17, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    mizu5 saidI dance now, so all my muscle in my legs has stayed


    Pics please icon_rolleyes.gif
    OOOH someone doesn't believe me. Okay I suppose I can take a pic or two.
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    Sep 17, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
    Your diet should be small meals often with fat, protein, and carbs, at every meal.

    If you have food allergies, you'll need to work around them as best as you can.

    You can use the USDA SR22 Food Calculator, or the food database at metroplexfitness.net (one of our properties) to do your research.

    Carbs are essential to sports performance. You can study up on how muscular contraction works from a variety of sources.
  • mizu5

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    Sep 17, 2010 6:22 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidYour diet should be small meals often with fat, protein, and carbs, at every meal.

    If you have food allergies, you'll need to work around them as best as you can.

    You can use the USDA SR22 Food Calculator, or the food database at metroplexfitness.net (one of our properties) to do your research.

    Carbs are essential to sports performance. You can study up on how muscular contraction works from a variety of sources.
    I've always eaten a diet heavy with carbs. Though quite a number of those carbs come from pasta, milk and legumes (mostly chick peas). Is that bad?
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    Sep 17, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    No, it's not bad.
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    Sep 17, 2010 7:54 PM GMT
    LostBoy gave you some excellent exercises and advice.

    Since you tumbled you may want to incorporate some of your upper body moves in your dance warm up period. I am sure your coaches had you do upper body warm up work before you hit the mats so doing some of that as you warm up for dancing will help get your upper body back.

    Best of luck and have fun with the dancing!