Republicans cannot govern

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    Sep 20, 2010 4:23 AM GMT
    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0607.wolfe.htmlContemporary conservatism is first and foremost about shrinking the size and reach of the federal government. This mission, let us be clear, is an ideological one. It does not emerge out of an attempt to solve real-world problems, such as managing increasing deficits or finding revenue to pay for entitlements built into the structure of federal legislation. It stems, rather, from the libertarian conviction, repeated endlessly by George W. Bush, that the money government collects in order to carry out its business properly belongs to the people themselves. One thought, and one thought only, guided Bush and his Republican allies since they assumed power in the wake of Bush vs. Gore: taxes must be cut, and the more they are cut--especially in ways benefiting the rich--the better.

    But like all politicians, conservatives, once in office, find themselves under constant pressure from constituents to use government to improve their lives. This puts conservatives in the awkward position of managing government agencies whose missions--indeed, whose very existence--they believe to be illegitimate. Contemporary conservatism is a walking contradiction. Unable to shrink government but unwilling to improve it, conservatives attempt to split the difference, expanding government for political gain, but always in ways that validate their disregard for the very thing they are expanding. The end result is not just bigger government, but more incompetent government.


    Rehashing an old article, but very relevant here.
    Solution: cut down the size of government without letting your constituents know that you're taking away the "pork" that sustains them. The question is, what is "fat" and what is "lean meat"? Or should we all be vegetarians? icon_lol.gif

    That seems to be the point of Joe Klein's interview this week in TIME--you can't have all of what you want at the same time, unless you want to be self-contradictory.
    http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/77773/our-bewildered-electorate
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    Sep 20, 2010 6:23 AM GMT
    Republicans can govern; they just don't have the right ideals. Democrats have the right ideals; but they don't know how to govern. We need middle ground.
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    Sep 20, 2010 7:06 AM GMT
    Say what you will about the Republican party but, at least they do what they say they are going to do, even when they know they are dead wrong.

    While the Democrats as soon as an idea becomes unpopular jump ship.

    The republicans can't govern because they stick to archaic ideology, while the Democrats can't govern because they are purely based on public opinion.

    Nixion, (my favorite president) proved with the wage and price freezes, that the American public should stay out of trying to run the American economy. Once he removed them the economy stabilized, and the populace stooped yelling for more regulation.

    Yes, I am a Republican
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    Sep 20, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
    rndale said
    Nixion, (my favorite president)

    Yes, I am a Republican


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    Sep 20, 2010 2:10 PM GMT
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    Sep 20, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    rndale saidSay what you will about the Republican party but, at least they do what they say they are going to do, even when they know they are dead wrong.


    You mean like reducing the deficit and cutting government? Well they are not doing it even when they say they are.
    Or the part about social progress (which Glenn Beck says, if you see it in your church's website, stop going to that church)?
  • rndale

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    Sep 21, 2010 9:09 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    rndale saidSay what you will about the Republican party but, at least they do what they say they are going to do, even when they know they are dead wrong.


    You mean like reducing the deficit and cutting government? Well they are not doing it even when they say they are.
    Or the part about social progress (which Glenn Beck says, if you see it in your church's website, stop going to that church)?


    Glenn Beck is MEDIA: there job is to present all arguments no mater how insane (which they usually are) and get ratings to provide profits.

    I am paraphrasing Alan Greenspan, "The American Democracy is not possible to maintain a Balanced Budget" In his book A time of turbulence, he argued that the bill that required the US government to maintain a balance budget should have been made an Amendment (I have to agree) for that very reason.

    I have to say something about George W. Bush, Alan Greenspan said, that unlike any president he ever encountered W. came into office he focused on fulfilling his campaign promises. Which he did with that insane tax cut program even though as Alan Greenspan said,"the country could no longer afford it".
    Then he got reelected and everything went to... , but he did what he said he was going to do, sure in some cases (ok most cases [ok all]) he went about it wrong, and we got stuck with the bill.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 21, 2010 10:57 AM GMT
    The proof is in the pudding

    How do you think we got here?
    We all know the F**k-up that W did
    But where do you think all the Government is the enemy stuff came from?

    Where do you think the .... let the business make the rules for themselves was started?
    Where do you think the teachers suck so lets take all the money for education and give it to tax cuts came from?

    ...... the stripping of the governmental dept's like FEMA
    and the Fiscal policies that are haunting us today?

    Where do you think they all came from?

    So if you THINK that republicans can govern? What kinda crack are you on?