The principle reason for Marijuana

  • rndale

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    Sep 22, 2010 10:23 AM GMT
    By focusing on the current legal drugs and the understanding why, medical marijuana is necessary. And the problems related to pharmaceutical abuse that already exists, and the dangers that legalizing Marijuana could increase.

    Reasoning: Marijuana fills the gap of the American Pharmaceutical Industry, It allows people to manage there own pain, without the fear of an overdose.
    Evidence: According to Dr. Howard Press, M.D. it is physically impossible to smoke enough THC from Marijuana to cause fatality unless you possess some pre-existing condition.
    Evidence: According to Above the Influence.com Common Ibuprofen Advil can cause kidney damage, Aspirin can cause death, by over thinning the blood.
    Evidence: According to UC Berkley 90% of all pharmaceutical drugs are derived from plants threw Ethno-botany.

    Medical Marijuana is necessary as it fills the gap left in the medical system. Problems with pharmaceuticals; 1. Difficult to get a stronger prescription; 2. Likelihood of an overdose; 3. Risk of abuse. Marijuana solves all but, number 3. Simply put, it removes the need of a doctor, to prescribe medication, allows the patient to manage there own pain without risk of overdose. Recreational usage will increase the number of Marijuana users, where there is no risk of overdose, however it will also provide a like for people to view other medications for recreational use. Medications with far, more dangerous risks for users, deadly consequences.
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    Sep 22, 2010 1:34 PM GMT
    I totally disagree. The principle reason for marijuana is to boost profits for the snack food industry.
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    Sep 22, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    paradox saidI totally disagree. The principle reason for marijuana is to boost profits for the snack food industry.
    I totally disagree. The principle reason for marijuana is to get stoned...safely.
    The latent effects are medical benefits, snack food profits, and tasty seasoning for brownies.
  • rndale

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    Sep 23, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
    Snacks are meaningless, the reality is the whole reason it is used by PEOPLE is to allow them to self medicate, without risk of OD.
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    Sep 23, 2010 12:54 AM GMT
    I agree...the reason why there is an issue with legalizing marijuana is because it would remove the need for extended physical examination within the hospitals which depends on those visits for billing etc. The other reason is that the public will find out how well the herb can cure multiple ailments as not many are informed about the herb, its healing contents and such. My grandmother drinks her weed tea every two weeks. This is back home of course where the laws are bended. She is in her mid 90s and shes not slowing down. She doesn't need reading glasses, her memory is still intact and she doesn't even use a cane. Shes still up and going. Now you could say that her strong beliefs in "old living remedys" are a result of a manifestation of her perfect health but i believe its because she uses marijuana ever now and then. In fact all my elderly family members use it and some are pushing 101 birthdays.
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    Sep 23, 2010 1:12 AM GMT
    tereseus1 saidI agree...the reason why there is an issue with legalizing marijuana is because it would remove the need for extended physical examination within the hospitals which depends on those visits for billing etc. The other reason is that the public will find out how well the herb can cure multiple ailments as not many are informed about the herb, its healing contents and such. My grandmother drinks her weed tea every two weeks. This is back home of course where the laws are bended. She is in her mid 90s and shes not slowing down. She doesn't need reading glasses, her memory is still intact and she doesn't even use a cane. Shes still up and going. Now you could say that her strong beliefs in "old living remedys" are a result of a manifestation of her perfect health but i believe its because she uses marijuana ever now and then. In fact all my elderly family members use it and some are pushing 101 birthdays.


    Wow! You go mom! icon_smile.gif Great story!

    Now... PLEASE PASS THE TEAicon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gif
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    Sep 23, 2010 1:13 AM GMT
    If they legalize marijuana everyone will stand to lose. Shops will go out of business, quality will go down, and growers will sell to the black market outside of state (california)

    Wholesale prices in California have dropped form $4,000 a pound to $2,000 with all the clubs here, and growers are already selling on the black market out of state where they can get more than 4 grand per pound.

    I dont see this passing at all at least not in California.


  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Sep 23, 2010 1:27 AM GMT
    they should legalize it and ban smoking cigarettes or alcohol.
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    Sep 23, 2010 1:33 AM GMT
    Ban cigarettes and alcohol? they already are trying to ban cigarettes by taxing the hell out of them. as for alcohol, its too big a money maker on all fronts, the licensing, taxes, criminal revenues, DUI and restitution, classes, etc etc etc its a big business. The safest place to be when you're driving drunk is on the freeway because all the cops are buzzing around the bars and restaurants looking for easy arrests.
  • rndale

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    Sep 23, 2010 12:26 PM GMT
    icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif This was supposed to state the reason for the USAGE of Marijuana, not a moral debate or a talk about legalization... only the[size=24] WHY Marijuana is used.[/size]
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    Sep 24, 2010 2:06 AM GMT
    rndale saidicon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif This was supposed to state the reason for the USAGE of Marijuana, not a moral debate or a talk about legalization... only the WHY Marijuana is used.


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    Sep 24, 2010 7:48 AM GMT
    There is a cafe 500 meters from where I am sitting where I can go and legally buy and smoke cannabis. Holland does some things right (actually I don´t smoke, but don´t see why people get so crazy over it when other drugs are legal)
  • Hunter9

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    Sep 24, 2010 7:59 AM GMT
    rndale saidicon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif This was supposed to state the reason for the USAGE of Marijuana, not a moral debate or a talk about legalization... only the WHY Marijuana is used.


    fuck MEDICAL marijuana... the reason to use is because (under the right conditions) it is fucking fun!
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    Sep 24, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    I am prescribed medical "marihuana" (as Health Canada spells it - and they even prnounce it like that: "marihoo-onna" icon_lol.gif

    I was put on it because I find it difficult to keep any weight on - to the point it is a health concern. It requires the recommendation of two separate doctors and must be medically indicated. My user and grow permits must be renewed every 12 months.

    Health Canada sells me the seeds for $20 ((if I wish to grow my own) or it is couriered to my door.

    (No, I will not sell anyone any seeds, or any weed so don;t bother asking. icon_rolleyes.gif )

    To those who think it is cool that I get my pot legally and delivered to me at $2 a gm, the reason for it is no fun at all. I would trade it in a second to have my body and brain functioning normally again without need of any help, herbal or pharmaceutical.

    Don't take today for granted guys - I lost it all literally in one heartbeat. - one minute I was having breakfast and the next I was on the floor face down in a puddle of coffee.It would be ten years before I could say I'm up again.

    Know your blood pressure

    Know the warning signs of STROKE:

    * sudden tingling or numbness in the left arm or leg, difficulty speaking or ANY kind of visual disturbance

    My vision went double briefly before it happened and i just thought I was overtired and shook it off. It only lasted a moment. I would later discover that that was my first stroke . Any numbness in my leg I dismissed as "my leg's fallen asleep"and it passed every time. I was only 37, and hsd just had a full physical. I was in great health and was completely unaware of the ticking timebomb in my bloodstream - an unusual clotting factor that no one would think to look for - the lupus anticoagulant antibody (which your body would create ifexposes to lupus. But I don't have lupus, so it causes blood clots (a phenomenon more commonly seen in young pregnant women than mem). So when I fell it took a long time for doctors to determine why.

    So if should you ever experience sudden change in your vision - call 911 imeditely!! It is a neurological emergency. The sooner they can bust a clot the less permanent damage you will sustain.

    They got to me fast - I was lucky. My wife was home and recognized the signs and made the call (over my protest that I was "fine, dammit!")
    "Only" a full 15% of my brain is scar tissue. For comparison that is about the amount of meat in a Quarter Pounder (tm) .

    If your friend starts to slur and they have not been drinking - call an ambulance. The largest delaying factor in stroke recovery is patient denial and refusal to recognise what is happening and calling for help urgently.

    Better to waste an evening for a false alarm than spent years in rehabilitation trying to get back what you never will.



    Don't hesitate!!

    Brain damage is permanent.





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    You showed me I still had the strength.

    I love you for it.

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    Sep 24, 2010 7:39 PM GMT
    demotivational posters - LEGAUANA
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    Sep 24, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
    batman192 saidIf they legalize marijuana everyone will stand to lose. Shops will go out of business, quality will go down, and growers will sell to the black market outside of state (california)

    Wholesale prices in California have dropped form $4,000 a pound to $2,000 with all the clubs here, and growers are already selling on the black market out of state where they can get more than 4 grand per pound.

    I dont see this passing at all at least not in California.





    Absolute bullshit. The free market will balance these out. As it should.
  • HankFit247

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    Sep 24, 2010 8:10 PM GMT
    It should be legalized provided laws similar to DUI/DWI are established/followed and an acceptable field testing method is available.


    You Smoke, You Drive, You Kill Someone, BYE BYE Your Done!
  • dfrourke

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    Sep 24, 2010 8:18 PM GMT

    Although I personally have little quip with legalizing marijuana, or people who use, I do have to say there is risk of abuse for any drug...maybe not physical addiction, but I have encountered folks who are emotionally dependent on marijuana...

    withdrawal of using a drug as an emotional crutch and building life skills to deal with difficulties can be just as tough for folks.

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    Sep 24, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    It is legal to own here in Belgium, although I don't really know anyone who does. It's typically more for the young and then it dies out. I expect the fascination with it in America is because it is illegal. I expect when it is finally legal, people will move on and care about other things, like they do here. It will be very anti-climactic.
  • Sk8Tex

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    Sep 24, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    Its a damn plant, without any added chemicals, tar, addictive substances, mass death tolls attached to it... the better question is why is tobacco still legal.

    Money plays politics like a lil bitch and lets face it, a couple of potheads selling ounces outta their parents basement in southern Cali doesn't compare to the multi billion dollar corporations that might stand to lose a large share of their market if Marijuana was to be legalized. Not only big tobacco but their is an entire industry setup just for cancer to think about. Even the nicotine patches and chewing gum products are produced by big tabacco companies like Philip Morris... Problems causing solutions causing more problems. Nothings going to get fixed around here anytime soon.
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    Oct 01, 2010 8:09 AM GMT
    I think marijuana should be legal compared to cigarettes! there are more benefits that comes with smoking marijuana and it has been used for centuries to help people!
  • alphatop

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    Oct 01, 2010 8:27 AM GMT
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    Oct 01, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
    antonomad saidAnybody for a splif?icon_twisted.gif


    lol hit me up!