I hate what you do, LOL

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    Sep 24, 2010 9:16 AM GMT
    So... on two different sites this week, including this one, guys have sent me oddly similar messages:

    in their entirety:
    "i hate math lol"
    and
    "You look great and you sound like a cool guy. FYI-I hated math in High School. LOL. Just a quick compliment."

    At least in the second message, yeah, I see the compliment part - thanks, appreciate that.

    The part that puzzles me is the disconnect that seems to happen in someone's mind where they think "I want to say hi to this person, so I'll tell them that I hate what they do"

    I occasionally get the same reaction face to face of course - it's certainly not unique to online interactions. I also meet lots of people that like math (yay!), so I'm not trying to generalize this as if everyone hates it. I just don't get how someone decides that an appropriate icebreaker is to express animosity towards your profession. If I meet a hot baseball player, my opening line probably won't be "Wow, baseball is the most boring sport, lol" - as much as that may be true...

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  • Kortaliano

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    Sep 24, 2010 9:30 AM GMT
    Those are the the worst opening lines!

    Granted, math wasn't my favorite subject, but I would have opened up with something like, "Wow! It takes a lot of balls to be a teacher! I know, because I used to substitute Junior High. It was a lot of work, but rewarding and a lot of fun!"

    If they're supposed to be showing interest in what you do, it should probably be in the positive light. Maybe they just don't know what to say, so they just say what comes to their head first. Either that or they're trying to relate to you and nothing comes to mind.
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    Sep 24, 2010 10:06 AM GMT
    Yeah, substituting is tough... I don't miss that.

    I thought math geeks were supposed to be the socially awkward ones, but those pickup lines leave me scratching my head a bit...

    I'm probably just cranky from getting no sleep this week, and being at school for 14 hours yesterday. I'm going to sleep my mattress so hard tonight.
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    Sep 24, 2010 12:33 PM GMT
    Your ability to divide fractions makes me wet....


    Better?
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    Sep 24, 2010 12:33 PM GMT
    Hmm I guess the ones that like math would have some sort of calculated response? (That sounded funnier in my head...)

    Well it does seem that those people who are commenting with you are trying to find a connection with you. However I find it odd that someone on this site would choose the topic of Math and not something fitness related. Have you replied back to either of these?

    You never know, maybe they are looking for a tutor. Maybe you could always help them start liking math again? But still, I cannot understand why people would use something which you seem to enjoy and start talking to you by stating that they hate it... It's just bizarre.
  • misternick

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    Sep 24, 2010 12:43 PM GMT
    I believe you that you hear that pretty often. I think these guys are just blurting out the first thing that pops in to their heads when they hear "math." Probably just a reflex from having a tough time in school or something.

    I think something comparable happens in any profession, though. You meet someone and sum up what you do in a short, general word or phrase (because if you don't, it can sound weird) and they kind of fill in the rest with assumptions that you can't really hold against them. You just have to go on filling in the blanks from there, if the conversation is worth keeping alive.

    When I introduce myself as a pilot, 90% of the people I tell respond immediately with "What airline?" And, granted, I would jump on an airline gig faster'n greased pig shit, but I've been getting paid to fly for a couple of years without it being an airline job.

    I would imagine doctors have a tough time with that too, just considering how many different things you could do under the "doctor" umbrella.

    Personally, I think math is cool. It's really tough to argue with numbers and at the same time you can use 'em to argue just about any point.

    "Pff, facts. Facts are meaningless. They can be used to prove anything." -Homer Simpson
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    Sep 24, 2010 12:47 PM GMT
    I've been in the non-profit field for many years and I get all sorts of crazy reactions and assumptions. My favorite reaction was at a party when someone asked what I did and I told him. He replied, "You must be poor then" and walked away.
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    Sep 24, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
    I think it's just a conversational gambit - a way to a) let you know that they've read your profile and b) a way to "engage" you. I don't think they're consciously trying to denigrate you or what you do.

    I can understand being taken aback at that, though, and it isn't the tack I would have taken to try and get to know you better. But as someone who's made more than his share of "friendship faux pas [...passes? crap, i should have looked up the multiple of "pas" first]" I can only suggest that they're trying, the best way they know how.
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    Sep 24, 2010 2:19 PM GMT
    I am dentist and for 25 years I heard "I hate dentists" about 90% of the time when I told people what I did. I laughed it off for a while..(however it was a deal breaker for me personally if there was a chance that anything would go further dating-wise)

    I do agree it has to do with people's first response and not realizing that many times WHAT you do has a big part of WHO you are and that they are striking a pretty deep nerve.. (pun intended)

    I applaud you for being on the front line with the kids. (I was in pediatrics for many years, now retired...and oh yes from being a dentist that so many of you seem to like to be pejorative about)
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    Sep 24, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
    lissenup saidI've been in the non-profit field for many years and I get all sorts of crazy reactions and assumptions. My favorite reaction was at a party when someone asked what I did and I told him. He replied, "You must be poor then" and walked away.


    That was a stupid comment.. I have always assumed that people who work for non-profit organizations already have tons of money...that's why they work for "non-profit". Am I missing something?? Nah, I think I'm right..... icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 24, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
    People ask me what I do and I really don' feel like replying to them...
    SEO...? What the hell is that?
    CEO...congrats....Sometimes, ACO????
    I keep mum for most of the time.
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    Sep 24, 2010 4:36 PM GMT
    Yeah, me and a friend of mine get this a lot too.

    "Biology? But that's hard......"

    "Physics? Wow, you must be like, some super genius"


    It's kinda their way to show how impressed they are that you do it, while showing it isn't something they personally enjoy. These people seem to be best left as acquaintances, because if you can't talk about what you do or what you're passionate about, it's a pretty lack luster relationship, right?

    But yeah, these responses get to be increasingly depressing after a while.
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    Sep 24, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    I'd like to do some math with you. How bout' me and you ubtract some clothes, add a bed, and divide some legs.....

    I know corny, I couldn't resist icon_razz.gif


    As far as the topic, just take comments like that with a grain of salt. Or if you want to be mean just turn it around on them using the same line etc. meh
  • SoDakGuy

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    Sep 24, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    I know I've posted about this before but I really don't like it when guys tell me I shouldn't box because I can get hurt. I know I get hurt boxing, but it's part of the sport. You get use to it! Hell, I wanna learn more fighting styles. This is the only sport that's actually made me a more calm and centered.

    Do you want me to give up something that makes me feel centered and go back to being an agitated and angry person?

    Then don't complain about me fighting in a ring.
  • kietkat

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    Sep 24, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
    To the OP, I feel your pain. I get a lot of "chemistry... that's hard" blah blah
    Certainly not the best first impression. It just makes me feel like I'm dealing with a total bonehead.
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    Sep 24, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    my personal favorite is when i share that i'm a dancer and people ask if that means i'm a stripper or go go boy.
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    Sep 24, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    "Oh, so you are in architecture? Are you gonna build me a nice house on a lot of land?"

    Cheap come-ons and poor witted ice breakers are cute. Lol.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Sep 24, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
    I would say, "a black hole is when GOD divides by zero" to make you smile
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    Sep 24, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    I keep getting 'stop being depressed' as some sort of conversation opener. I much rather prefer the "what the fuck is wrong with you"s, they are so much more colorful!
  • DCEric

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    Sep 25, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
    Here's a few pick up lines you might like:

    "You derive me crazy."
    "I'd like to get integral with you"
    "Nice fractals"
    "What are the odds of meeting a guy like you?"
    "Heads or tails?"
    "I'd like to push you to your limit"
    "I'd like 10/5 get 20/10 know you 2^0 on 1!"
    "Are you up for a little Group Theory?"
    "Would you like to go out for some coffee and pi?"

    ....I could keep going....

    /and for the record "I've never met a meteorologist, tell me about the stars" gets very old, very quickly
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    Sep 25, 2010 12:29 AM GMT
    "Would you find me more interesting if I worked at the Gap?"
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    Sep 25, 2010 1:14 AM GMT
    I hear "I hate math" a lot when I tell people what I do as well. Or "I'm not good with computers" or something of the sort. I've never held it against anyone. Nobody else has to share my passion; they just have to listen to me geek out about it once in a while. I do the same for them, no matter what their passions are. If I dislike their passions enough to where I don't want to hear about them, THEN it's a bit of a deal-breaker.
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    Sep 25, 2010 2:00 AM GMT
    I few years ago I was taking a break between business projects and had some spare time. I decided to try substitute teaching at the local high school and focused on math. I had a lot of fun with it. At the beginning of a new class, I would ask who hates math. Most hands would go up, and I would say, "Great, that's what I was hoping to hear." They would look at each other puzzled. I would go around the room and ask why. Typical answer, "cuz I'm no good at math."

    They I would tell them that we all don't have the same abilities in each area. I would ask them if it was possible their opinion of their math ability came from a specific experience that did not really shed light on their abilities. They said maybe, with some skepticism.

    Then I offered this. I said, suppose I can show you some things in easy baby steps, and could show that you were really better in math than you thought. Would you work with me so we could try it? I would start with easy things to build up their confidence, and gradually show most of them they were better than they thought.

    Then I suggested they should consider math as representing anything they encounter that challenges their confidence. They should never assume they don't have the ability to do something based on maybe a single experience or a few experiences in a particular context.

    It was a really rewarding experience for me and many of the students.
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    Sep 25, 2010 2:11 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidIt was a really rewarding experience for me and many of the students.


    ... But what about the empty set? icon_wink.gif