Libertarians Suggest They Would Repeal Gay Marriage Ban DOMA, DADT

  • metta

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    Sep 26, 2010 2:00 AM GMT
    Libertarians Suggest They Would Repeal Gay Marriage Ban DOMA, DADT

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=6465&MediaType=1&Category=26

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    Sep 26, 2010 6:43 AM GMT
    Unfortunately, some candidates who label themselves libertarians are only selective libertarians.
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    Sep 26, 2010 3:13 PM GMT
    Is this a ploy to get the gay vote?
  • bchbum

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    Sep 26, 2010 3:41 PM GMT
    theatrengym saidUnfortunately, some candidates who label themselves libertarians are only selective libertarians.


    Agreed, I got into a debate with a co-worker who claims to be a libertarian. We got to talking about the Florida Marriage Ammendment in 2008. I got him to agree with every point I made about why it was wrong, and he still voted for it. But, this is just one instance. There are a lot of Libertarians who can care less what you do in private.
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    Sep 26, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
    Invisible_Guy saidIs this a ploy to get the gay vote?


    It´s actually part of the genuine libertarian position, the part that actually works (ie limiting the state´s imposition of its moral values on citizens). It´s the part it has in common with liberalism.
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    Sep 26, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
    ^
    that used to be a big portion of the Republican Party, known in the South West as Sagebrush Republicans. We don't really hear that term any more.They used to believe in keeping the government out of the peoples personal lives. I do wonder how many of them moved over to the Libertarian Party.

    The Republican Party is not going anywhere. They are not going to allow another party to take over. And our system is really designed, by the current parties, to really only allow 2 major parties. The parties have protected themselves for their own self interest. So that is not going to change unless we have some sort of huge rebellion, which I don't think people are in favor of. That being said, I think that the Republicans really need to have a powerful (in numbers) group within it that is more liberal to pull it the other direction so that it is more moderate so that our country will be less polarizing and politicians can actually get work done.

    As there is a Log Cabin Republican Group within the Republicans, I would like to see a Liberal Republicans Group within the Republican Party that emphasized getting rid of government corruption, minimizing costs, and staying out of the peoples personal lives. That might be something that would appeal to Libertarians and Independents. I'm not really sure how many there are in the extreme right so I don't know how many people would be needed in this type of group to balance it out more. I have friends that are Republicans that would support such a group. They don't like seeing their party taken over by extremists.
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    Sep 26, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    A lot of the libertarians I've met are just young republicans who read ayn rand, want to smoke pot, and think the free market solves anything.

    They are also huge supporters of social Darwinism which is funny..since most of them come from money.
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    Sep 26, 2010 5:00 PM GMT
    i think its a positive development though it may have a small effect.
    in theory all libertarians should favor gay rights,on the basis of limited gov't (if the govt should be small, why would it single out gays for specail treatment under the law...) for example, i've always said a true libertarian position on gay marriage is to favor civil unions for all, straight and gay, and leave marriage for churchs.
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