.... Cheney Pentagon (circa 1992)Show Push for US Military Dminance and a Strategy to "PREVENT THE REEMERGENCE OF A NEW RIVAL" This shows the BUSH/CHENEY AND COMPANY who brought about the current war debacle has been planned for many years.

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    Feb 29, 2008 11:31 PM GMT
    Go to http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0229-04.htm to read the story and additional can be found there. This group coupled with THE NEOCON world dominance study group "NEW AMERICAN CENTURY" has led us into this mess. SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE STOPPED? CAN THESE PEOPLE BE STOPPED? WHO CAN STOP THEM?
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    Mar 03, 2008 2:33 AM GMT
    I love to say this to you, Kwitcherbellyakin! This insane world drew us out of our isolation in 1917, then again in 1941, we had to stay for the Cold War and now these rabid dog muslims. It's time to fix this
    planet once and for all so humanity can get on to better pursuits. That's what PNAC is all about and I like it.
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    Mar 03, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    John !!! Its all about control of OIL !!! Nothing more !!! Does all this mess of war for OIL help you? Don't you think we'ed be better off spending that same investment toward technology to get us off OIL? OUR CIA CREATED ALQUIDA TO FIGHT THE RUSSIANS, WE MADE THIS MESS FOR OURSELVES, AND THE WAR HAS JUST EXACERBATED THE PROBLEM, SO WHAT IS IT YOU LIKE ??
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    Mar 15, 2008 4:47 AM GMT
    Without oil we starve and freeze. What responsible government would ignore it?
    Also; history is on my side, no liberal (true meaning, not the media definition) state in the western model ever went to war with another like state. The solution is obvious, make every state on the planet a Liberal state in the western model and we will have world peace. I think it's worth knocking some heads to achieve that.
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    Mar 15, 2008 5:17 AM GMT
    You cannot false your beleif's on other nation's ! Who the arrogant hell do you think you are? lt is your belief's that have got us all in this mess in the first place!

    Oil Control Money and Greed!
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    Mar 15, 2008 6:24 PM GMT
    Kebab, did you mean "force"? Sure we can force American beliefs on other nations, it worked for the Germans and the Japanese and they are immensely better off for it. Iraq wasn't going to get any better under Saddam was it?
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    Mar 15, 2008 11:35 PM GMT
    Damn John !!! What are you thinking? We the US, have no right to force American beliefs on any nation, or group. We're living in the 21st century, not the imperial 1700's. We were supposed to have learned at least a few things from history, don't you think !!! I know Bush has taken us back by his NEOCON AGENDA, I'm beginning to wonder, are you under the employ of the NEOCON study group? or just a deeply convinced follower of their belief system?
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    Mar 16, 2008 12:43 AM GMT
    Reallifedad, why would you bother explaining anything to this nutcase?
    John43620 saidKebab, did you mean "force"? Sure we can force American beliefs on other nations, it worked for the Germans and the Japanese and they are immensely better off for it. Iraq wasn't going to get any better under Saddam was it?

    John, what beliefs are you talking about anyway? It is becase of people like you that world gets wrong picture of America. You are no different then nazis used to be, and people like you should be forced into some mental institution. Don't you see how ridiculous and crazy you are?
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    Mar 16, 2008 1:50 AM GMT
    Where does it hurt, John43620?
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    Mar 16, 2008 2:28 PM GMT
    LOL !!! Rugger that was great !!!! Surely it must be a "PAIN IN THE" "GLUDIMUS MAXIMUS" you know !!!! the part we sit on !!!!! No hard feelings john43620, just the facts, don't know why you try so hard !!!!
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    Mar 16, 2008 9:44 PM GMT
    So, I advocate that we rid the planet of dictatorships and dictatorial theocracies and replace them with Liberal governments, you guys like having dictators and theocracies around. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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    Mar 22, 2008 7:19 PM GMT
    No John !!!! We don't like Dictatorships !!! That's why we are against bush/cheney's actions which are looking more and more dictatorial, and against our constitution. Its also against our laws, Geneva conventions, and treaties to attach another sovereign country for the purpose of removing their dictator. We here in the US, were not set up as the "ALL KNOWING GOD'S" of the world, to police it and decide what kind of governments other country's should have. LETS JUST MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS UNLESS INVITED TO ASSIST FOR HUMANITARIAN PURPOSES AND THE LIKE, NO MORE OF THIS PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKES FOR LIES TO COVER UP ALTERIOR MOTIVES (LIKE CONTROLING OIL INTERESTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST)
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    Mar 24, 2008 6:04 AM GMT
    Like I said before, this insane world drew us out of our isolation in 1917, again in 1942 and we had to stay for the Cold War and now these muslim terrorists.
    It's time to fix this crazy planet once and for all.
    We have the opportunity, it just takes some guts. Besides, we're in it now. You probably have never been in a bar fight but I know, if you're kicking your opponant's butt and then have a change of heart half way through, all it does is give your opponant the space to kick your butt back. "Savvy"?!
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    Apr 01, 2008 5:59 AM GMT
    John your a hopeless NEOCON !!! where else would you get the idea that its our place to "FIX THIS CRAXY PLANET ONCE AND FOR ALL" There's too many thing we should be fixing at home to be trying to mold the world to our form, that's some crazy shit your talking now !!! What we need to do is make you NEOCONS FIGHT YOUR OWN DAMN RESOURCE WARS !!!!!
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    Apr 01, 2008 6:29 AM GMT
    Well realifedad, if we don't fix this world, it'll fix us, especially with Democrats running the show. You guys are easy. Al Qaeda had a free run under Clinton, they'll get a free run under Hillary or Barrack too. You people just can't help but support those who launch aggression at the US. You always blame the US first.

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    Apr 01, 2008 6:58 AM GMT
    we should be very careful what we whish for when we talk about imposing democracy on other countries. we automatically assume that if muslim countries have democratic election then they will elect a secular pro-western government. need i remind you all the palestinians had a DEMOCRATIC election and vote hamas into power! DEMOCRATICLY ELECTED BRUTAL BACKWORDS THEOCRATS! freedom and democracy my ass!
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    Apr 01, 2008 6:59 AM GMT
    PHXARIZ08, We aren't bad just the opposite of them. Bad is so subjective a word too. I find you "Blame America" guys interesting.
    The Chinese, the Egyptians, the Greeks and the Romans brought humanity to the pinacle of success and then, they came down and all humanity went primitive again to start over. Had they been successful, people might have made it to the moon at about the time of the American Revolution.
    We're in the same situation now. We're almost there but, we have barbarians abroad threatening us and people like you within supporting the barbarians. I'm pointing that out. I think it would be bad for us and all humanity if we don't make it. I know it's subjective but that's how I see it.
    Just another observation, the problem may be in the fact that when a civilization is successful, it creates a cushy lifestyle for it's citizens, who in turn lack the guts to defend their civilization.

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    Apr 02, 2008 4:08 AM GMT
    thriller83 - I couldn't agree with you more !!! phxariz08 -- I think you have a good point, we are over there occupying their country, they are defending it, and we call them terrorists. Guess when we were fighting the brittish back in the 1770's according to Bushies thinking we were terrorists. Strange how bushies have turned this arround isn't it !!! In all actuality if there was a world court convened, I think in all logical and fair consideration of the facts, the court would have to side with the Iraqies and and muslim peoples that the bushies are the terrorists. Its obvious we are on their territory sticking our guns in their faces trying to force our wishes on them. not the other way around.
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    Apr 02, 2008 4:21 AM GMT
    Where does it hurt, John43620?
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    Apr 02, 2008 7:51 AM GMT
    XRuggerATX saidWhere does it hurt, John43620?


    You obviously need some serious counceling. I only like this site because most of the Amiricans here don't act like you. You are a shame to your entire country and your primitive ideas resemble nothing that your countrymen fought for. You are a disgrace to your own race. You are the barbarian, and you will be judged accordingly.
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    Apr 02, 2008 7:56 AM GMT
    XRuggerATX saidWhere does it hurt, John43620?


    MrVenturu saidYou obviously need some serious counceling. I only like this site because most of the Amiricans here don't act like you. You are a shame to your entire country and your primitive ideas resemble nothing that your countrymen fought for. You are a disgrace to your own race. You are the barbarian, and you will be judged accordingly.


    Shame, shame on you Rugger for disgracing all of Caucasiandom! You bad bad cracker! Now go stand in the corner and say fifty "Hail Reagans" and slap yourself in the genitals with Karl Rove's playbook and repeat "Liberal devils get out!" until you feel like a red-blooded-gun-toting-war-loving patriot again!icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 02, 2008 8:19 AM GMT
    Oops, sorry I thought I quoted John. I was'nt refering to you Rugger honestly! Sorry!!!!icon_redface.gif I actualy want to know where it hurts too john?
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    Apr 02, 2008 3:25 PM GMT
    realifedad, there is absolutely no comparison to the American Revolution and our occupation of Iraq. The American patriots had the good sense and common decency to fight a stand up war with the Brits. At no time did any patriot hide among the women and children of the colonies to engage the Brits in battle, ever.
    You're clutching at straws to support your position.


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    Apr 02, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
    John43620 saidrealifedad, there is absolutely no comparison to the American Revolution and our occupation of Iraq. The American patriots had the good sense and common decency to fight a stand up war with the Brits. At no time did any patriot hide among the women and children of the colonies to engage the Brits in battle, ever.
    You're clutching at straws to support your position.





    You must be Cheney's lesbian daughter. It's the only thing that makes sense about you and your rhetoric.
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    Apr 02, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    "So, I advocate that we rid the planet of dictatorships and dictatorial theocracies and replace them with Liberal governments, you guys like having dictators and theocracies around. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    "

    Let's start with the whackiest of them all, George Bush.