DAMN IT - Damn Bullies

  • metta

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    Sep 28, 2010 6:52 PM GMT



    Bullied for being gay, 13-year-old hangs himself
    http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/Bullied-for-being-gay-13-year-old-hangs-himself/w1Xo2oK_VkqGyNYb5wM9Pg.cspx



    Another boy.....this one, Asher Brown, killed himself:


    Parents say bullies drove their son to take his life
    They claim school district took no action


    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7220896.html



    More blood on the hands of society and every organization that treats gay people as being less human than others...yes...that includes many religious organizations that teach hate.

    DAMN IT!
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    Sep 28, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
    That is such a sad and tragic story.
  • sm1ley1

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    Sep 28, 2010 10:50 PM GMT
    I would take revenge.

    Thats why i built up my body to beat the living daylights out of bullies.
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    Sep 28, 2010 10:52 PM GMT
    First off, this is a terrible, horrible, shame.
    What pisses me off is the fact that another common link in all of these stories is "The school took no action," bullshit! Now, we all know the state of public education in America is mostly in the toilet, but we have schools "taking action" to deny gay students the right to bring a same-sex date to a dance or prom, yet the same fucking schools don't lift a god damned finger to help mediate harassment or protect students from physical &/or mental violence? And we wonder why every once in a while some student comes to school with a shot gun?
    Personally, I'm still waiting for the day I turn on CNN to see a report about a gay kid that beats the hell out of a straight classmate, because I SWEAR, when that day comes I will make a huge donation to that kids defense attorney... I think that will bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "Gay Rage!" icon_evil.gif
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    Sep 28, 2010 10:58 PM GMT
    sm1ley1 saidI would take revenge.

    Thats why i built up my body to beat the living daylights out of bullies.


    Thank You! Damn Fucking Right! I lived in SF for almost five years, and in that time I had 3 friends that had the crap kicked out of them on the street fo being a 'mo. I was coming out of a club once & some crazy dude decked me (broke my nose) and I hit him back like hell: broke the bastards jaw! Thank you very much!
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    Sep 28, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
    It saddens me when i read horrific news like these.
    Makes me even more angry at the world.
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    Sep 28, 2010 11:09 PM GMT
    EccentricStud said
    sm1ley1 saidI would take revenge.

    Thats why i built up my body to beat the living daylights out of bullies.


    Thank You! Damn Fucking Right! I lived in SF for almost five years, and in that time I had 3 friends that had the crap kicked out of them on the street fo being a 'mo. I was coming out of a club once & some crazy dude decked me (broke my nose) and I hit him back like hell: broke the bastards jaw! Thank you very much!


    Being BIGGER and SMARTER than your opponents is the Best Revenge.
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    Sep 28, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    Did Obama sign the law about bullies last year?
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    Sep 28, 2010 11:34 PM GMT
    Wow, it seems like this shit is getting worse and worse.
    Like I said a few months ago, it's time we stop being pussies and kick the living shit of out these bullies. I don't give a good god damn if they are underage. They need their asses beat!
  • GQjock

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    Sep 28, 2010 11:40 PM GMT
    This is getting ridiculous

    What kind of children are we raising here in this country?
    So Sad ... so sad
  • grnranger99

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    Sep 29, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    Here is something to get involved with that could make a difference
    http://chicagoist.com/2010/09/22/dan_savage_tells_lgbt_youth_it_gets.php
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    Sep 29, 2010 12:25 AM GMT
    For the second boy I don't think the parents should have been pointing the finger so much, he was in 8th grade, he shouldn't have had access to a pistol.
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    Sep 29, 2010 1:12 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidWow, it seems like this shit is getting worse and worse.
    Like I said a few months ago, it's time we stop being pussies and kick the living shit of out these bullies. I don't give a good god damn if they are underage. They need their asses beat!


    I damn well agree!!
    This may be very un-Politically Correct, but maybe us gays do need to start getting aggressive in order to be taken seriously in this country? I mean, African Americans had The Black Panthers, the Hippies had, well, Radical Hippies: We need us an army of mean, mad as fck, buffed up gay dudes, and some bull dykes to carry supplies!! WAR!!!
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    Sep 29, 2010 1:33 AM GMT
    when will we as a society start holding the PARENTS of the bullies responsible for the actions of their kids' bullying? maybe if the parents had a stake in their kids behaviors they might teach their kids not to bully. i have no sympathy for the parents who cry on camera apologizing the to the family of the victim b/c they couldn't control their children. i'm venting----but those are just my two cents.
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    Sep 29, 2010 1:45 AM GMT
    EccentricStud said
    paulflexes saidWow, it seems like this shit is getting worse and worse.
    Like I said a few months ago, it's time we stop being pussies and kick the living shit of out these bullies. I don't give a good god damn if they are underage. They need their asses beat!


    I damn well agree!!
    This may be very un-Politically Correct, but maybe us gays do need to start getting aggressive in order to be taken seriously in this country? I mean, African Americans had The Black Panthers, the Hippies had, well, Radical Hippies: We need us an army of mean, mad as fck, buffed up gay dudes, and some bull dykes to carry supplies!! WAR!!!


    Back in the 80s we had groups like ACT UP, Radical Fairies and Queer Nation; Groups like these made people take notice and realized we can stand up and fight back, and be physically violent if needed to get the point across clearly.
    Do we need to seriously do it again?
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    Sep 29, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    GigoloAssassin said
    EccentricStud said
    paulflexes saidWow, it seems like this shit is getting worse and worse.
    Like I said a few months ago, it's time we stop being pussies and kick the living shit of out these bullies. I don't give a good god damn if they are underage. They need their asses beat!


    I damn well agree!!
    This may be very un-Politically Correct, but maybe us gays do need to start getting aggressive in order to be taken seriously in this country? I mean, African Americans had The Black Panthers, the Hippies had, well, Radical Hippies: We need us an army of mean, mad as fck, buffed up gay dudes, and some bull dykes to carry supplies!! WAR!!!


    Back in the 80s we had groups like ACT UP, Radical Fairies and Queer Nation; Groups like these made people take notice and realized we can stand up and fight back, and be physically violent if needed to get the point across clearly.
    Do we need to seriously do it again?


    Um, Yes, I think so. Truthfully, I don't mind not being able to legally marry, but it would be great to stop hearing about guys getting beaten or kids killing themselves. A while ago, I read about a modern "Act up" type group called "Bash Back" which I rather like the sound of. For better or worse, aggression gets the point across and I think we (gay guys) have gone just about as far as we can with enlightenment, tolerance, and understanding...
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    Sep 29, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    HTownRunner saidwhen will we as a society start holding the PARENTS of the bullies responsible for the actions of their kids' bullying? maybe if the parents had a stake in their kids behaviors they might teach their kids not to bully. i have no sympathy for the parents who cry on camera apologizing the to the family of the victim b/c they couldn't control their children. i'm venting----but those are just my two cents.


    I totally agree with this. If someones DOG attacks someone else the owner is held responsible, if a bar serves someone and they later drive they can be held responsible, so why not the parents of these juvenile criminals! Their kid drove another human being to kill themselves! There has got to be some responsibility they bear in that!
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    Sep 29, 2010 2:13 AM GMT
    Unless they pass some laws, I think the best they can get parents for is Depraved Indifference, and that is a long shot unless the court can prove the parents encouraged the childs behaviour...
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 29, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    I agree with the other posters' sense of outrage and frustration. I'm not sure what the solution is.

    I will also say that parents in a situation like this, where anti-gay fucktards are targeting your child for months or even years, should considering moving away from whatever rural sh-t hole you're living in. Move to some semi-progressive town or city where people can manage to behave like civilized human beings. Isn't your child's life worth it? When your child is grown, you can move back to redneck-ville if you're that fond of it.
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    Sep 29, 2010 2:30 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidI agree with the other posters' sense of outrage and frustration. I'm not sure what the solution is.
    The solution is to start kicking ass and taking names.
    People who hang around me already know...if I run across a situation where a fellow gay is being harassed, I will fight to the death if that's what it takes, regardless of the ages of the offenders. I'd rather be put in jail for hospitalizing a minor than let a gay bashing commence without penalty.
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    Sep 29, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    You guys realize that groups like NOM and the Family Research Council are successfully lobbying against anti-bullying laws because that would mean teaching tolerance of LGBTQ students and preventing the kind of bullying that led this boy to take his life?


    The same organizations that oppose ENDA, the Matthew Shepard Act, or any federal protections for LGBT Americans, the same exact stances GOProud and their ilk have.
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    Sep 29, 2010 3:02 AM GMT
    tryandbuy saidYou guys realize that groups like NOM and the Family Research Council are successfully lobbying against anti-bullying laws because that would mean teaching tolerance to LGBTQ students and preventing the kind of bullying that led this boy to take his life?


    The same organizations that oppose ENDA, the Matthew Shepard Act, or any federal protections for LGBT Americans, the same exact stances GOProud and their ilk have.


    EXACTLY
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Sep 29, 2010 3:06 AM GMT
    The Hamilton Middle School - where this young man who shot himself and died, had his and his parents concerns ignored by faculty and administrators - can be emailed - more specifically the Principal and the eighth grade vice principal and eighth grade guidance counselor.

    SEND THEM A NOTE AND TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL THEY HAVE FAILED THIS FAMILY AND ALL OTHERS LIKE THEM!!!!!!


    HAMILTION MIDDLE SCHOOL

    Principal: Ify Ogwumike
    Email: ify.ogwumike@cfisd.net

    8th Grade Assistant Principal: Michael Bilsten
    Email: michael.bilsten@cfisd.net

    8th Grade Counselor: Kelli Zeutschel
    Email: kelli.zeutschel@cfisd.net

    The Counselor in particular needs to hear from people. This is her JOB to protect and defend students and shepherd them safely through this difficult time. She claims as follows on her page at the School website:
    I graduated from Sam Houston State University in 1988 with B.A. in Elementary Education. I taught 4th grade in Klein ISD and began my counseling career at Klein High School in 1993. August 2004, I became part of the Tiger Family. The time to prepare for your future is NOW. Think of 8th grade as pre-high school. What you do this year effects your choices for 9th grade. Work hard and take care of your business. Mrs. Zeutschel

    This young man has NO future now, and clearly she and other administrators failed him as he attempted to work hard and mind his OWN business.

    LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL!
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    Sep 29, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    tryandbuy saidYou guys realize that groups like NOM and the Family Research Council are successfully lobbying against anti-bullying laws because that would mean teaching tolerance to LGBTQ students and preventing the kind of bullying that led this boy to take his life?


    The same organizations that oppose ENDA, the Matthew Shepard Act, or any federal protections for LGBT Americans, the same exact stances GOProud and their ilk have.
    I also realize that the day I hear someone admit to being a member of either of those groups (NOM or FRC), I am going to jail for assault and battery.

    When/if that day comes (or better yet, when I get bond out of jail), I'll post a copy of the paperwork in every single one of my online profiles.
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    Sep 29, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    Oh but you should hear the xstains denying it had ANYTHING to do with him being gay or PERCEIVED gay... oh no, their religious bullshit had NOTHING to do with it.

    I say BULLSHIT!