No More Suicide Letters, Mr President.

  • metta

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    Oct 01, 2010 2:50 AM GMT




    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=122170697838697

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    THE LETTER BELOW WAS WRITTEN by a Radical Faerie (Jonathan W, Brooklyn, NY) and really captures the heart of the matter it seems.

    Please SEND IT as a comment to the White House at:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact



    And LET THEM HEAR US SAY:

    *** Mr. President PLEASE SPEAK OUT LOUDLY about homophobia, school bullying and equal civil rights for LGBTQ people -- no more suicide letters. ***



    To President Obama,
    All of us are horrified by the tragedy of Tyler Clementi, the young man who committed suicide after his sexual encounter with another man was posted on the internet. We share anger and disgust at the 2 students accused of this despicable act.

    But if our outrage stops there, we will be doing a grave disservice to the millions of young gay men and women in this country who live with shame and fear everyday and who have a 4 times greater risk of suicide than their straight counterparts.

    Most people would be embarrassed and angered at having their private sexual acts secretly recorded and posted on the internet, but it seems unlikely that Mr. Clementi would have been driven to suicide if this had been a heterosexual encounter. A young heterosexual man would not likely experience the shame and fear that Mr. Clementi must have felt.

    Yes, the 2 students accused of this crime must be held accountable for their actions, but as a society we must all share responsibility for creating an environment that drives young gay people to suicide.

    This country has come a long way toward acceptance of gay people in the last few decades, but we still have a long way to go. Young gay people still face bullying and abuse at home and at school; many experience ostracism by family and friends; discrimination in school, work, housing and social services; and isolation from supportive communities of peers, as well as anti-gay violence in public and private. It's no wonder that the shame and fear of 'coming out' can be fatal.

    In the cyber world we now live in, there will undoubtedly be more cases of invasions of privacy on the internet. They can be punished, but not prevented. It is up to all of us in this society to make sure that young gay people feel safe, secure and accepted, so that shame and fear never again result in death.

    PLEASE SPEAK OUT.
  • metta

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    Oct 01, 2010 3:01 AM GMT
    There have been 5 recent suicides from anti-gay harassment:
    Asher Brown, aged 13. Seth Walsh, also 13. Billy Lucas and Justin Aaberg, both 15. And now 18-year-old college student Tyler Clementi, who attended Rutgers until his Sept. 22 jump from the George Washington Bridge. All five killed themselves after suffering anti-gay harassment. " http://www.edgeonthenet.com/index.php?ch=news&sc&sc2&sc3&id=110997
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    Oct 01, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    Obama will say and do nothing. He's a homophobe, doing the barest minimum to placate, not us, but Democrats and the party.
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    Oct 01, 2010 3:09 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing.


    Unfortunately... this. icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 01, 2010 3:10 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing.
    Unfortunately you are correct.
  • metta

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    Oct 01, 2010 3:13 AM GMT
    Here is a letter to ask the Secretary of Education to include gender identity and sexual orientation in anti-bullying programs:


    https://secure3.convio.net/hrc/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=943&autologin=true&utm_source=Convio&utm_medium=email&utm_term=callout-link&utm_campaign=Stop-the-suicides-put-an-end-to-bullying-in-schools
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    Oct 01, 2010 3:13 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing. He's a homophobe, doing the barest minimum to placate, not us, but Democrats and the party.


    +1
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    Oct 01, 2010 4:44 AM GMT
    JAKEBENSON said
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing. He's a homophobe, doing the barest minimum to placate, not us, but Democrats and the party.


    +1
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    Obama just needs to come his cute ass out of the fucking closet and stop being a dick. I'm sure Michelle would enjoy the threesomes, and might even bring home a few chicks herself.
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    Oct 01, 2010 4:45 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing. He's a homophobe, doing the barest minimum to placate, not us, but Democrats and the party.


    Gosh this post made me smile so much +3
  • metta

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    Oct 01, 2010 6:47 AM GMT





    So what are you going to do?
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    Oct 01, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    If you voted for him, then it's now to late to complain! You may of seen more advancement under Mccain. But something I have learned from RJ, is many gay democrats of America can see, yet are blind.

    Have hearing, yet only hear what they want.

    Have a voice yet say nothing.

    Homosexuals are also victims of hate and violence from gay men and lesbians. Just look at all the hate, abuse, threats, death wishes, that anything that even look like it's leaning to the right receive from the gay and bisexual left here at RJ.

    You make me proude I'm an Aussie poofter and not an American gay!
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    Oct 01, 2010 7:05 AM GMT
    Young people commit suicide everyday, and not just young gay ones.

    This young man took his own life, and it was not taken away from him.

    Sorry but you can't blame Mr Obama for this young man's death. he may of fallen in love next year, and got dumped for another, then was not strong enough to deal with that, and did him self in anyway..

    I feel trying to put the blame on Obama for this is nothing more than emotional blackmail.
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    Oct 01, 2010 7:12 AM GMT
    metta8 said




    So what are you going to do?


    What was ever done about all the friends I lost in the 80s, who where given a slow death my other infected brothers, all those innocent lives lost; what was ever done about that great tragedy?

    Many blamed President Reagan.
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    Oct 01, 2010 7:39 AM GMT
    aunty_jack saidYoung people commit suicide everyday, and not just young gay ones.

    This young man took his own life, and it was not taken away from him.

    Sorry but you can't blame Mr Obama for this young man's death. he may of fallen in love next year, and got dumped for another, then was not strong enough to deal with that, and did him self in anyway..

    I feel trying to put the blame on Obama for this is nothing more than emotional blackmail.



    That is pretty twisted. I have no idea where you got that from. Obama had nothing to do with it. That is not the point.


    (damn it! I took the troll bait) icon_confused.gif

    You don't seem like you are interested in a real discussion...just here to manipulate things to cause trouble.
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    Oct 01, 2010 8:07 AM GMT
    Seriously though, what does the president of a country have to do with something like this? It doesnt make sense to me, this is a social issue, what does legislation have to do with it.. WE have to do something, not any head of state... I think at least, I should do something myself, not leave it to my head of state....
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    Oct 01, 2010 8:18 AM GMT
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    THAT WAS GREAT!!!! :O
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    Oct 01, 2010 9:05 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing. He's a homophobe, doing the barest minimum to placate, not us, but Democrats and the party.


    Very much true. I don't get the sense the president is comfortable nor willing to have himself around gay supporters, let alone, fully pave the way to help end hate crimes, discrimination, DADT, DOMA, and other issues the gay community want to do away with. It's all politicized at the cost of gays without considering the human dignity of it all. And I doubt young gay teens committing suicide will be anywhere near the top of his agenda to address in public or to curb bullying and violence against gay teen youth.

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    Oct 01, 2010 9:14 AM GMT
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing.



    Yeah! Where is our cocktail summit?! Obama is a phony!
  • Hunter9

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    Oct 01, 2010 9:39 AM GMT
    obama is hardly homophobic... if he doesn't come out in full support for gays and gay rights, it's purely for political purposes.
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    Oct 01, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    Caslon15000 saidObama will say and do nothing.
    Unfortunately you are correct.

    Even more unfortunately, Republicans WILL do something, and you can be sure none of it will be pro-gay. Expect to see a reinforcement of DOMA in the new Republican Congress, and another attempt at submitting a US Constitutional Amendment for ratification by the States to prohibit gay marriage & unions, with enough State legislatures in Republican control after November to pass it.
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    Oct 01, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Even more unfortunately, Republicans WILL do something, and you can be sure none of it will be pro-gay. Expect to see a reinforcement of DOMA in the new Republican Congress, and another attempt at submitting a US Constitutional Amendment for ratification by the States to prohibit gay marriage & unions, with enough State legislatures in Republican control after November to pass it.


    A lot of the Republican Party is moving away from legislation like this actually.
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    Oct 01, 2010 12:10 PM GMT
    I agree that there is movement by the Republican party towards tolerance, but I am not sure they are far enough along. Unfortunately, their main support does come from religious fundamentalist who are fighting against civil rights for the LGBT community.

    I know there are many in the Republican party that support civil rights, unfortunately they have not yet been able to force substantive change in the party's platform.

    It is important for voters from both parties to ensure that their votes do not go to politicians who have supported legislation against civil rights.

    These are just some of the events from the past year that should cause concern.


    Virginia Governor Rolls Back Non-discrimination protections
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/virginia-gov-bob-mcdonnell-rolls-back-non-discrimination-protections-for-gay-state-workers.php

    Hawaii Governor vetoes same sex civil union bill
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/07/07/2010-07-07_hawaii_governor_linda_lingle_vetoes_bill_to_allow_samesex_unions_aclu_says_theyl.html

    Montana GOP Platform
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100918/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_montana

    Texas GOP Platform
    http://jaysays.com/2010/06/texas-gop-official-platform-calls-for-imprisonment-of-homosexuals-and-supportive-heterosexuals/

    Alaska GOP Platform
    http://www.bentalaska.com/2010/06/alaska-gop-platform-opposes-gays.html



    Fearthefall said
    Art_Deco said
    Even more unfortunately, Republicans WILL do something, and you can be sure none of it will be pro-gay. Expect to see a reinforcement of DOMA in the new Republican Congress, and another attempt at submitting a US Constitutional Amendment for ratification by the States to prohibit gay marriage & unions, with enough State legislatures in Republican control after November to pass it.


    A lot of the Republican Party is moving away from legislation like this actually.
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    Oct 01, 2010 12:47 PM GMT
    aunty_jack saidIf you voted for him, then it's now to late to complain! You may of seen more advancement under Mccain. But something I have learned from RJ, is many gay democrats of America can see, yet are blind.


    You're fucking kidding, right? Have you missed him trying to block EVERY piece of pro-gay legislation that comes near him?

    Fucking crackpot.
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    Oct 01, 2010 3:09 PM GMT
    You people do realize that Obama is not much more than a figure-head, right?

    There are better places to direct your letters.

    Besides, if he was capable or willing to do anything, I highly doubt he'd get your letters to begin with. The man gets a shit-ton of mail on a daily basis. I doubt he has time to read a good majority of it.
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    amar_m saidSeriously though, what does the president of a country have to do with something like this? It doesnt make sense to me, this is a social issue, what does legislation have to do with it.. WE have to do something, not any head of state... I think at least, I should do something myself, not leave it to my head of state....


    What the president, avowed "fierce advocate" for gay rights, has to do with this is that he has been as fierce as a slightly cold slice of pizza with no pepperoni. He has been an absolute pussy. No he can´t change society with laws, but he can make it easier for people to stand up as gay soldiers, gay people in the work place, gay people at school who are protected from unfair dismissal and have some legal recourse in the case of abuse on the basis of their identity. The more that people are open, the more that general attitudes will change. Obama can´t change attitudes, but he can enable people to be open.

    That´s what the president of a country has to do with this: he could make it easier for people to be open about being gay and he has done exactly FUCK ALL.