Is it ever too late to begin wrestling?

  • Saiel

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    Oct 01, 2010 5:25 AM GMT
    I just turned 21. I always admired the endurance of wrestlers and have been interested in it since Junior High. But back then, I wasn't exactly the most social person ever. There was no team back in high school either. This sounds soo geeky of me but wrestling seems like Algebraic equations...only in motion.

    I'd really love to break out of my shell and keep my body in shape. I was talking with a 40+ year old man who had an apple belly and he said "all men get like this at 40 and it begins at about 30. Even you will become like this". I was so mad that he was actually comparing himself to me (vice-versa). From then on, I vowed not to get like that. A lot of you guys in this forum prove him wrong.

    I found a wrestling club that is gay-friendly (though from what I heard, all of the members are gay). They specialize in freestyle wrestling. They also have beginner classes at the beginning of each month. I emailed them and I was more than welcomed to come in and observe a beginner class. Im impressed they welcome someone with no experience whatsoever. I read online that they have 33+ year olds who are beginners.

    I know wrestling is a tough sport mentally and physically (my friends who did wrestling also tell me likewise). What are its benefits? What can I do to prepare for it? Even if it is just baby steps? I know this isnt enough but a friend and I do cardio together. Luckily, there is a track nearby. I REALLY want to challenge myself with something new. Right now, Im at average weight. Is there anything I could do to get into better shape?

    So, is it too late to start? My friends have done nothing but tell me to go for it.

    Thanks!
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    Oct 01, 2010 10:24 AM GMT
    Its NEVER too late to start any sport. I started MMA and Jiu Jitsu in my 50's

    The pics in my profile are recent and real. I'm 60 years old and have a 30 inch waist and I think you can still see the outline of my abs (Back on the french fries for now)

    My advice is to go to a few practices at the wrestling club. The guys love new challenges and will show you the ropes. Don't be discouraged if you feel out of shape...wrestling is THE toughest challenge to conditioning.

    The first step is the hardest
    Good luck
  • Saiel

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    Oct 01, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
    @bigsmiles

    Thanks bigsmiles! I feel so encouraged now! If I ever feel like this, I will just think of you and say "Well, if he learned MMA and Jiu Jitsu in his 50's, I can still learn wrestling".

    I'll most definitely go to their practices!

    There is something I forgot to ask. If you were ever to meet me, you would see that I am like the gayest guy ever icon_lol.gif so, should I work on getting aggression out? I dont want to be all timid yet I dont want to seem phony. This reminds me. I had a female friend who was on a wrestling team (a club). Seeing her, she seems like she is a sweet, dainty girl. But she was tough! I highly admired her for that.

    Thanks!!
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    Oct 01, 2010 2:22 PM GMT
    NEVER. Check my profile info. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 01, 2010 2:28 PM GMT
    It ticks me off when guys tell me/you/anyone that starting at a particular age you start to get fat and out of shape. I'm 40 and I am fairly confident in saying that compared to the majority of men my age, I am way ahead of them in terms of fitness.
    The guy that told you that is just fat and lazy but doesn't want to own up to it...so he uses the lame excuse of "all men get like this at 40 and it begins at about 30. Even you will become like this". Total crap.

    You're 21. Still very young. You can wrestle, learn MMA (I started karate at 30), or any other sport.

    Best of luck to you.
  • Saiel

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    Oct 01, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
    huckleberry saidIt ticks me off when guys tell me/you/anyone that starting at a particular age you start to get fat and out of shape. I'm 40 and I am fairly confident in saying that compared to the majority of men my age, I am way ahead of them in terms of fitness.
    The guy that told you that is just fat and lazy but doesn't want to own up to it...so he uses the lame excuse of "all men get like this at 40 and it begins at about 30. Even you will become like this". Total crap.

    You're 21. Still very young. You can wrestle, learn MMA (I started karate at 30), or any other sport.

    Best of luck to you.


    Thanks! I am happy to see that you guys are very supportive. Im also inspired to see that many of you guys who are 40+ are in such a good shape. If you guys can do it, why cant it?

    I know it's not going to be easy, but Im prepared for a challenge.
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    Oct 01, 2010 4:59 PM GMT
    Sounds like you have a fetish for wrestling.

    Most adult wrestling stuff is a joke, and is fetish crap by folks who aren't in any kind of shape, nor serious athletes, and are typically just queer guys wanting touchy grabby but who are not athletes. There, are, of course, some exceptions, but, starting so late in life, you almost certainly will get your ass handed to you by any serious wrestler. Most folks start young (say, 4 years old) and practice a move thousands of times, and understand all the mechanics of wrestling from the ground up. That can't be taught in just a few sessions. Like many other things, it takes years to get very good at it.

    Any real jock won't be thinking about any the sexual aspect of sport. He'll have his head in the game, instead, unless he likes losing.

    You may be able to get rid of the fetish by actually going through the exercise, but, from what you've said, you don't have any level of experience in a sport that take years to get good at. I.e., for any real jock you wouldn't present any level of challenge nor sport nor, likely, even a good workout.

    You can take it up late, but, mostly, you're going to find some creepy folks.
  • Saiel

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    Oct 01, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidSounds like you have a fetish for wrestling.....Any real jock won't be thinking about any the sexual aspect of sport. He'll have his head in the game, instead, unless he likes losing.


    No, I have no fetish for wrestling whatsoever. It would be wrong of me to participate in a sport solely for the purpose of sexual gratification.

    chukystudThere, are, of course, some exceptions, but, starting so late in life, you almost certainly will get your ass handed to you by any serious wrestler. That can't be taught in just a few sessions. Like many other things, it takes years to get very good at it.


    Of course, I expect to lose and have my ass handed down to me since I am inexperienced. I dont expect instant progress nor instant gratification. Thank you for reminding me of that.

    chukystudMost adult wrestling stuff is a joke, and is fetish crap by folks who aren't in any kind of shape, nor serious athletes, and are typically just queer guys wanting touchy grabby but who are not athletes.


    Thus is why I was suspicious at first of the wrestling club I was talking about.


  • MisterT

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    Oct 01, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
    Never too late to start, you may take a while to start winning, but just don't give up. I knew people that didn't start greco-roman style wresting till they were in late 20's and they love it. They also workout besides wrestling, and they are in awesome shape in their 30's now. Wrestling alone won't do the job, you need to eat right and do resistance workouts also.

    As far that guy who said you'll have a belly too, that'll only happen if you let it. I know guys in there 60's that are fit, and you'll see proof of that on this site too.

  • alphatop

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    Oct 01, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
    color=violet]Never 2 late,dude, especially when you are in your early 20-es...I found out that i love boxing and martial arts when I was in my early 30-es...The secret of the practice is TO practiceicon_smile.gif
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    Oct 01, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    God, you had to quote chucky so I'd have to see it.

    Chucky, it's people like you who make gay teens commit suicide. You make them shameful for having sexual attractions with other men in sport's scenarios. And, once again, you have no clue about these wrestling clubs for gay men as well as the gay wrestling fetish. Let me explain to you once again.

    There are only about 12 legitimate amateur wrestling clubs for adult men (meaning not high school clubs nor college clubs) in the U.S. ALL of them are run by or started by gay men. These include the Golden Gate Wrestling Club, Metro Wrestling, Spartan Wrestling, etc. Many of them are sanctioned by the USAW, and the wrestlers compete in the gay games. They are not sex clubs.

    However, just about every guy I know who wrestles competitively, including many at the clubs, are not opposed to private erotic matches. Again, to each his own.

    You seem to have such DEEP DEEP internalized homophobia that I seriously think you need counseling. Go, get help. Seriously.

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    Oct 01, 2010 7:57 PM GMT
    About everything chuckystud said was way off. Most of the guys that wrestled when they were 4 years old, turned into macho dingers who hurt something and now look back at that part of life "as the best years of their lives" You see them all over sports bars with fat asses and necks and tight lipped wives.

    You are better than that

    I take MMA at a gay friendly dojo. NEVER is there any sexual attraction when I'm on the mats or off. For me its that personal achievement in man to man contests. Do I lose? yes, Do I win? yes Am I a better person for doing both
    DOUBLE YES

    That's me below a few years ago.. still 57 years old when I did my last NAGA tourney

  • Saiel

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    Oct 01, 2010 8:22 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidGod, you had to quote chucky so I'd have to see it.


    lol I wasnt aware of who he was (Im new here).

    Bigsmiles,

    Thanks icon_smile.gif

    PS: It's okay though. Guys like chucky provide me with an immense opportunity for self-reflection. Such as in this case, not to expect instant gratification, thanks

    @ Atonomad

    Thanks! A lot of you who are replying have started later in age and it's just amazing because I realize that Im not alone. icon_smile.gif
  • neosyllogy

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    Oct 01, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
    I'd be a little dubious w. regards to a wrestling group advertised as "gay friendly", but I'm sure there are legit ones out there.
    You might also look into submission grappling/brazilian jiu jitsu (or even judo, though it's less similar in practice).

    If there are multiple offerings (of the above), I'd make a point to drop by and try them all before making a decision. I'd also take into account the competitive record of wherever I went. If no one really competes or only a few people compete and have no significant wins... well... personally, I would be unlikely to consider it a worthwhile time investment (though maybe better than nothing).

    I do find submission grappling (related-ish to wrestling) very intellectually fulfilling - kind of like competitive origami - if you imagine sports as networks being traversed (with decisions to move from node to node representing play evolution) the dimensionality of grappling sports is much higher than most non-team sports even approach.

    Good luck.
  • neosyllogy

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    Oct 01, 2010 9:03 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidSounds like you have a fetish for wrestling.

    Most adult wrestling stuff is a joke, and is fetish crap by folks who aren't in any kind of shape, nor serious athletes, and are typically just queer guys wanting touchy grabby but who are not athletes. There, are, of course, some exceptions, but, starting so late in life, you almost certainly will get your ass handed to you by any serious wrestler. Most folks start young (say, 4 years old) and practice a move thousands of times, and understand all the mechanics of wrestling from the ground up. That can't be taught in just a few sessions. Like many other things, it takes years to get very good at it.

    Any real jock won't be thinking about any the sexual aspect of sport. He'll have his head in the game, instead, unless he likes losing.

    You may be able to get rid of the fetish by actually going through the exercise, but, from what you've said, you don't have any level of experience in a sport that take years to get good at. I.e., for any real jock you wouldn't present any level of challenge nor sport nor, likely, even a good workout.

    You can take it up late, but, mostly, you're going to find some creepy folks.


    There's a lot of truth to this and you want to make sure find some legit athletes and not gay fetishists.

    However, at least in MMA, sub grappling, and BJJ (brazilian jiu jitsu) (and again, to a lesser extent, judo) starting later in life is quite common. Mostly because the first three sports are still relatively young (and the later is very community oriented, for lack of better term coming to mind).

    I can't comment on wrestling, but I often see former wrestlers take up one of the aforementioned sports because there aren't many legit places to pursue freestyle, folkstyle, or greco wrestling as an adult. That said there certainly do exist good ones and some definitely do take and train beginners (I know because a lot of mma and bjj guys will go to them to learn wrestling.
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    Oct 02, 2010 3:15 AM GMT
    Note that the original poster altered his original / first post where he spoke about managing his erections / fetish.

    I spoke to his fetish interest as opposed to actually becoming / being an athlete.

    To be in a truly competitive situation, he honestly will want to avoid "gay friendly" as that's a huge sign that it is gay fetishists. True athletes don't worry about who you fuck at night because they have their head in the game, and not on sex.

    I note that at least one other poster was experienced and on the same page with me.

    Whether it's my hockey team, flag football, bodybuilding, sexual preference has never been at the forefront.

    In my personal experience, when I have sought out any "gay friendly" stuff they were creepy folks, to VERY creepy folks, like the wrestle guy here; not the sorts of things a true athlete is looking for.

    Each to his own. That's the reality of it, however.

    As said, there are only just a very few legit clubs that may still have some creepy folks. It depends on where your true interests lie, I suppose.
  • Saiel

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    Oct 02, 2010 4:21 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidNote that the original poster altered his original / first post where he spoke about managing his erections / fetish.



    Youre the one who thought I had a fetish (so weird as to why you would bring it up..again). It's funny how you cooked up such a scenario.

    Next time, please think before making assumptions. Anyway, Im not going to argue with you. Youre just not worth my time icon_biggrin.gif I am not a gay fetishist.

    The amateur wrestling club that I was looking at is USAW sanctioned. I looked up their website and their youtube and they seem pretty legitimate and serious to me. But I really hope it's not some gay sex club in disguise.
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    Oct 03, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    Next time, I'll quote you. Clever edit.
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    Oct 03, 2010 1:03 AM GMT
    Saiel saidI was talking with a 40+ year old man who had an apple belly and he said "all men get like this at 40 and it begins at about 30. Even you will become like this". I was so mad that he was actually comparing himself to me (vice-versa). From then on, I vowed not to get like that. A lot of you guys in this forum prove him wrong.

    Just because that's the norm doesn't mean it's inevitable.

    And do you know why it's the norm? It's true your metabolism starts slowing down into your 30s and 40s, but it has much more to do with the fact that the majority of guys are straight, so they get married (usually in their 20s), get settled into that "I've got mine so I don't have to worry about it anymore" feeling, and let themselves go.

    After about ten years of marriage (around 35), this starts catching up with them. And you can just bet their wives love seeing their formerly athletic husbands now sporting a gut that lops over their belt. icon_rolleyes.gif

    As you said, many guys here prove you don't have to get out of shape as you get older. The difference is giving a shit versus not giving a shit.