Insomnia....waking up at the wrong times and can't fall asleep!

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    Mar 02, 2008 11:11 PM GMT
    Having a problem and have been for about 3-4 months....I am dead tired and now it is starting to cause me some grief at work for being constantly 15 to 30 minutes late in the AM....
    at the end of my rope and need a better solution...
  • GeorgeNJ

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    Mar 03, 2008 3:08 AM GMT
    Hey Sporty_g, I have been having exactly the same problems for about the same length of time. Can't get to sleep until around midnight, often later. Can't get up in the morning till around 7:30 or 8 -- making me late for work. My doctor shared some things with me about 'sleep hygiene' that I can send you (5 pages), but you can probably get the same info from "Sleep Disorders for Dummies" http://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Disorders-Dummies-Max-Hirshkowitz/dp/0764539019/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204512631&sr=1-1

    Many things can come into it: your schedule, your eating habits, your caffeine intake during the day, stressors, unusual crises, etc.

    I would not recommend any of the OTC products like Sominex or Tylenol PM -- they're junky and will leave you feeling extremely groggy the next day.

    Some natural products that are good are Valerian (an herbal supplement -- get a good name product), and 5HTP. Tryptophan has been re-released, but a bottle can be expensive (around $25).

    Prescription supplements are available: I used Ambien for a while, and it was okay. Lately, I keep Sonata on hand, and have been happy with it. Lunesta is also out now, but I haven't tried it. The only thing with these prescriptions is that long-term use (a month or more of nightly use) can open you up to some strange side-effects -- the only one I've heard about is Ambien inducing sleep-walking problems. I never used any of these prescriptions for more than 3 or 4 nights in a row, so I can't speak from experience about side effects.

    As for me & my current insomnia problem, I'm not sure, but I have some theories.

    I'd be happy to talk to you personally on the phone, or even by email, and share some ideas with you. Email me if you want to.

    Good luck to you.
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    Mar 03, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    I used to suffer horrible insomnia. I would go 2-3 days without sleep at least twice a month and would have more regular, daily sleep problems. Ggeo17 had a lot of good suggestions.

    I have not had insomnia problems with any regularity in the last three years and part of that has to do with getting a more structured routine in my life. Also, I stop drinking anything caffeinated six hours before bed. After then I drink a lot of chamomile, mint, or valerian tea. It has helped me a lot.

    But, you should really take a look at your life. Are you depressed? Worried about things? Anxiety? Insomnia can manifest itself from any number of seemingly unrelated causes.

    Be well.
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    Mar 03, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    I have had your trouble for almost 7 years, I took ambian for a long time, and it did cause me to do some crazy things, that I was not aware of until someone else in the house told me about them. LOL !!! but I did sleep. But what helped me the most was something for another problem. I have damaged nerves to my legs, which vibrate at night when I lay down, so the doctor gave me a muscle relaxer called orphenodren. This medicine helped my sleep as well as slowed down the nervous legs. and I usually sleep well. but even so about once a week I end up with very little sleep. but before this medicine, I would go 3 or 4 nights, with only from 2 to 4 hours of sleep then I'd have a night with no sleep at all. God I was so tired, but sleep wouldn't come. Maybe you could try the muscle relaxer, its made all the difference for me, its once thing I make sure I don't run out of because if I do, I know I won't sleep. I wish you luck !!!
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    Mar 03, 2008 3:54 AM GMT
    Thank you all for the suggestions.
    I am under unreal stress right now and have been for about 9 months. I don't use anything with caffine....but I am very anxious about several things... yeah got the restless legs thing happening too... you have all given me a place to start working from. Thanks.icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 03, 2008 8:56 AM GMT
    Zanax
  • GQjock

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    Mar 03, 2008 11:27 AM GMT
    I've been a terrible sleeper for years
    sleeping pills just make me more sleepy during the day
    been to many Dr's and I've found that you'll get to sleep eventually
    first I'd suggest get the stress down to a minimum
    then don't stay up late find a time to go to bed every night
    don't leave lights on - no TV
    don't exercise right before bed either
    try to follow a nightly ritual for your body to follow
    read for a while
    listen to radio...or even TV and then turn it off
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    Mar 03, 2008 11:41 AM GMT
    I have a similar problem actually.icon_confused.gif
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Mar 03, 2008 11:57 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidZanax


    I believe the proper name for this is "Xanax"

    I would advise anyone who is thinking about taking this, to do your research first. It can be addictive, and with all those things, there are sideffects.

    Try something natural first. Try massage, meditation, natural supplements.

    Mike
  • GeorgeNJ

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    Mar 03, 2008 2:22 PM GMT
    Sporty_g said... yeah got the restless legs thing happening too...


    In some cases, restless leg syndrome is caused by a deficiency of magnesium. BTW, magnesium is also very helpful for calming a person -- hence it can help them sleep at night more soundly.

    If you try magnesium, just be aware that what it says on the bottle (usually 500 mg) doesn't mean 500 mg of magnesium in each capsule, because mag needs to be combined with something else (eg. citrate). Look on the bottle for how much 'elemental magnesium' is in there.

    Taking 400-500 mg of elemental magnesium is usually regarded as quite safe.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 03, 2008 3:19 PM GMT
    Melatonin works great for me...and you can get it really cheap at COSCO or pretty much any health food store.
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    Mar 03, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    I have a always been a very light sleeper due to my extreme introversion I believe and sensitivity to light, sound and touch. For instance I have never been able to fall asleep in the arms of a sexual partner icon_cry.gif something that I have always regretted.

    Starting about 2005 it started getting much worse, some weeks I would get maybe 7 hours sleep in three days. On my trip to Italy in 2006 I slept only 7 of the first 81 hours of the trip, and even then I was taking gravol to knock myself out.

    My causes were probably mild depression caused by Sustiva which is a HIV medication. Complicating matters though was a mild prostate infection that would invariably wake me up in the middle of the night from which I would have trouble falling asleep. And finally as one gets older the quality of sleep decreases, REM sleep becomes less deep.

    My doctor has put me on Cipralex which is a mild anti-depressant that allows me to fall asleep, but I still only average 5-6 hours a night. I also do what others suggest. I don't consume caffeine (especially coffee which I love) after noon. If I want something hot to drink I consume herbal teas which I grew to love during my lung infection in January (honey lemon, lemon ginger and peppermint are my favourite). Herbal teas might sound quirky to some, but I listen to my employees who are of Chinese background. They seem to be quite healthy and happy.
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    Mar 03, 2008 9:48 PM GMT
    before you go to the heavy duty stuff you may want to take the natural approach of cereal before bed. That and the milk helps promote sleep, if yuo dont like the thought of eating then you may want to try ZMA.

    What time of day are yuo doing your workouts too?

    I know also if I stay on here too late and dont just defuzz my brain then it stays active for a while
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    Mar 04, 2008 5:52 AM GMT
    bfg1 saidbefore you go to the heavy duty stuff you may want to take the natural approach of cereal before bed. That and the milk helps promote sleep, if yuo dont like the thought of eating then you may want to try ZMA.

    What time of day are yuo doing your workouts too?

    I know also if I stay on here too late and dont just defuzz my brain then it stays active for a while



    Please tell me about ZMA....Thanks.
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    Mar 04, 2008 7:07 AM GMT
    i dont sleep much i study i work out and i have sex thats it i eat two meals a day and there both top ramen i dont have insomnia but i am a colledge student
    and isent that the same thing-lol
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    Mar 04, 2008 8:01 AM GMT
    http://www.immunesupport.com/zma.htm

    The body uses alot of magnesium under times of stress so it makes sense to replace it. Leg twitches and restlessness are classic symptoms of a deficiency