WOW telling you im gay is so hard!

  • makhot

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    Oct 03, 2010 12:30 AM GMT
    so after we accept that we are truly indeed gay and decide to open that closet door we have our fears and doubts about who we should tell

    my question is who is/ who was the hardest person you will/ wanted to come out to ( if you have already done it how did it pan out)


    ill start.............. My sister.... coz she thinks being gay is a sin and a choice and a mental disorder of some sort.. not to mention she is a devoted SDA, extremely "PERFECT"... oh and did i mention she is married to a religious leader

    when i do tell her tho, i know it will take some time but she will come around
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    Oct 03, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
    Why tell her? Leave her in ignorance or to figure it our for herself. If she is gonna be all hateful, let her stay in the dark.

    When she starts giving you a hard time, hit her up with some if this:

    The SDA is a cult by my estimation. If you have any other questions I will be glad to help. Below is a brief list of some of EGW Bible contradictions and false prophecies.

    EGW says: The plan of salvation was made before the Fall (Great Controversy [GC], p.347).
    The BIBLE says: The plan of salvation was made “before the world began” (II Timothy 1:9).

    EGW says: Adam was deceived (GC,  p.352, 1885 ed.).
    The BIBLE says: :It was not Adam who was deceived” (I Timothy 2:14).

    EGW says: The Tower of Babel was built before the Flood (Spiritual Gifts [SG], vol. 3, p.301).
    The BIBLE says: The Tower of Babel was built after the Flood (see Genesis 11:1-9).

    EGW says: Some species of animals were not allowed into the ark (SG, vol. 3, p.15).
    The BIBLE says: “Of all the living creatures you shall bring two into the ark” (Genesis 6:19).

    EGW says: Not everything outside the ark died (SG, vol. 1, p.77).
    The BIBLE says: “…everything on earth shall die” (Genesis 6:17).

    EGW says: Noah ate only the flesh of clean animals (Patriarchs and Prophets [P&P], p.107).
    The BIBLE says: “Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat” (Genesis 9:3).

    EGW says: Pharaoh's magicians did not turn their rods into snakes (SG, vol. 3, p.205-6).
    The BIBLE says: The magicians did turn their rods into snakes (see Exodus 7:8-12).

    EGW says: Slaves cannot be saved (SG, vol. 1, p.193; Early Writings [EW], p.276).
    The BIBLE says: Slaves may be saved (see I Corinthians 12:13; Galatians 3:2icon_cool.gif.

    EGW says: The Ten Commandments were written on only one side of the tablets (EW, p.32).
    The BIBLE says: The Ten Commandments “were written on both sides, front and back” (Exodus 32:15).

    EGW says: Jesus did not choose Judas (Desire of Ages [DA], p.293).
    The BIBLE says: “Jesus replied, ‘Did I not choose the Twelve of you myself?'” (John 6:70).

    EGW says: The Atonement was not finished at Calvary (Testimonies for the Church [TC], vol. 1, p.58; GC, p.422, 623).
    The BIBLE says: The Atonement was finished at Calvary (see John 19:30; Hebrews 10:12).

    EGW says: The blood of Christ doesn't cancel our sins (P&P, p. 357).
    The BIBLE says: “The blood of His Son cleanses us of all sin” (I John 1:7; see also Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 13:12).

    EGW says: Jesus' bones were broken during the Crucifixion  (SG, vol. 1, p5icon_cool.gif.
    The BIBLE says: Jesus' bones were not broken (see John 19:33, 36).

    EGW says: We are reconciled to God through obedience to the Law (TC, vol. 4, p.294).
    The BIBLE says: “…we were reconciled to Him by the death of His Son” (Romans 5:10; see also II Corinthians 5:18; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9).

    EGW says: The seal of God is the keeping of the 7th day Sabbath (TC, vol. 8, p.117; GC, p.640).
    The BIBLE says: The seal of God is the Holy Spirit (see II Corinthians 1:21-22; Ephesians 1:13; 4:30).

    EGW said concerning her writings, “There is one straight chain of truth without one heretical sentence in that which I have written” (Selected Messages [SM], vol. 3, p.52). Nothing could be further from the truth as we have seen from a mere sampling of her contradictions with the Bible (for further information see www.ellenwhite.org). One thing that EGW said that I complete agree with is “If (my) testimonies speak not according to the Word of God, reject them” (TC, vol. 5, p.601). Amen, Ellen, amen!

    PROPHECY: “Old Jerusalem would never be built up” (EW, p.75).
    REALITY: Since 1948, Old Jerusalem has been greatly built up by the Israelis.

    PROPHECY: EGW will be alive at Jesus' Second Coming (EW, pp.15-16).
    REALITY: EGW died on July 16, 1915.

    PROPHECY: Some alive in 1856 will see Christ's Second Coming (TC, vol. 1, pp.131-132).
    REALITY: All from 1856 have died.

    PROPHECY: The Civil War is a sign that Jesus is about to return (TC, vol. 1, p260).
    REALITY: Jesus did not return.

    PROPHECY: England will attack the U.S. during the Civil War (TC, vol. 1, p.259).
    REALITY: England did not attack.

    PROPHECY: The earth will be depopulated soon after 1864 (TC, vol. 8, p.94).
    REALITY: The earth's population has increased greatly.

    The Bible warns against “Prophets” like EGW. “Beloved, do not trust every spirit, but put the spirits to the test to see if they belong to God, because many false prophets have appeared in the world” (I John 4:1).  

    For further evidence see Deuteronomy 18:20-22: Ezekiel 13:6-9, 17-23; Jeremiah 23:32; Matthew 24:24; II Peter 2:1-3.
  • makhot

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    Oct 03, 2010 12:50 AM GMT
    haha, yaha i am going to tell her DEFINATLY, every1 in my family will be told sooner of l8r......................... its all about timing, and with me everything works in stages i guess. the closet door is open, im just not out yet........... the aim of the topic is not to gain any sympathy or advice... i rly just want to tap into other peoples experiences ( thanx for the advice tho icon_smile.gif )
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    Oct 03, 2010 1:44 AM GMT
    I don't really remember it being all that difficult telling anyone.
    The person I LEAST wanted to tell (my dad) caught me in the act with another guy.
    So much for waiting till the right time. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 03, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    I don't really hide my sexuality, I just don't talk about it all that much. It's on facebook, so it's pretty much open to the world. But, for those who don't know, sometimes it's awkward bringing it up. My fraternity brothers are notorious for this. They'll put me in a situation assuming that I'm straight and part of me wants to say, "Don't you know already? I'm gay." But, it never feels right to bring it up. icon_neutral.gif
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    Oct 03, 2010 3:46 AM GMT
    When i was in HS, i fell in love with my best friend. I felt he might feel the same way about me, but I could never come around to telling him or asking him..It was the 60s and would have been social suicide, even in SoCal...42 years later I still wonder what I should have done.....Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Oct 03, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    The hardest person to come out to is yourself.

    (And then your family.)
  • OklahomaBreak...

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    Oct 03, 2010 5:24 AM GMT
    The hardest person for me to come out to will be my brother. Complete tea party, fundamentalist christian, and very closed minded. He is my brother and I love hanging out with him when religion and politics aren't discussed. His wife's brother is gay and they don't talk with him because it is a sin and all gays go to hell. He wasn't always like this, but is getting worse over time. So that is the hardest person it will be to come out to.
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    Oct 03, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    OklahomaBreakdown saidThe hardest person for me to come out to will be my brother. Complete tea party, fundamentalist christian, and very closed minded. He is my brother and I love hanging out with him when religion and politics aren't discussed. His wife's brother is gay and they don't talk with him because it is a sin and all gays go to hell. He wasn't always like this, but is getting worse over time. So that is the hardest person it will be to come out to.


    You can always wait til your both in hell and then tell him....keithicon_cool.gif
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    Oct 03, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    You need to get to the point that YOU are so accepting of the fact that you are gay that you don't give a shit what anybody else thinks, including your sister, makhot, or your brother, OklahomaBreakdown.

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    Oct 03, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    Chaaxwvn saidThe hardest person to come out to is yourself.

    (And then your family.)


    This.
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    Oct 03, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    fastfreddie saidYou need to get to the point that YOU are so accepting of the fact that you are gay that you don't give a shit what anybody else thinks, including your sister.


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    Oct 03, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    My experience coming out to my family was apparently very different from most other guys. My parents are super liberal, both politically and socially. They are just old hippies I guess. Anyway, when I told them I was gay they just looked at each other and smiled as if they already knew and as if they had already discussed it with one another. I like to joke that they wouldn't have been happy unless at least one of their kids turned out gay (although I'm the only one out of four). My brother and sisters were totally cool and even my grandparents were totally cool. The more I become familiar with other guy's experiences coming out the more I realize just how lucky I was/am.
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    Oct 03, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
    conscienti1984 said
    Chaaxwvn saidThe hardest person to come out to is yourself.

    (And then your family.)


    This.
    And
    bhp91126 said
    fastfreddie saidYou need to get to the point that YOU are so accepting of the fact that you are gay that you don't give a shit what anybody else thinks, including your sister.


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    both are right on target!
  • OklahomaBreak...

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    Oct 03, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    Haha thanks Vette and Fred. The best joke I saw on here awhile back was think of how great the decorating and mixed drinks in Hell will be.

    I am planing on telling the family after I get out of school. Several of my friends know and they have all been really great, but the family issue is going to be more sensitive. My dad is also of the same mind as my brother, but without the religious overtones. He just sees being gay as disgusting, but we were never particularly close so if he disowns me it would not be extremely difficult. Also my mom is fairly open-minded and will probably give him an ultimatum about it, so I have that going at least. Also I am not very stereotypical and still fish and hangout with the friends who know. Once they see I am the same person I have always been it is not an issue, and I hope that goes the same for the family. The main problem is there are no gay people in the family, well at least none that our out enough I would know about, and we are pretty well known in the area since most of my older relatives have owned small stores for decades. So the fallout from all the gossip will be difficult for them to bear and that is going to be hard for all of us.

    I can say that even though my situation is difficult I know several friends who have had it much, much worse. One of my fraternity brothers was actually outed by the school newspaper on accident. He gave a quote to them about how the baseball team had pelted the Straight-Gay Alliance float with candy during homecoming. He didn't realize the paper was circulated beyond campus. His family live in the opposite side of the state and one of his dad's work friends brought in the paper that week. He and his dad are ok, but his mom rarely speaks to him now. I also have a friend whose family grew up with my mom's and his family completely cut ties with him for being bi. He is married with kids now and I am pretty sure they still have no contact.
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    Oct 24, 2010 7:30 AM GMT
    Chaaxwvn saidThe hardest person to come out to is yourself.

    (And then your family.)


    Agreed. Hands down "/
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    Oct 24, 2010 11:09 AM GMT
    Coming out is still practically impossible in many caribbean islands... it could get you shot in some areas even....

    I was just very lucky to be from the most liberal island...

    I even go to some bars here and kiss my male gay friends on the cheek there.. something I could never do on the street or anywhere on any other island