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I really don't know what studies to believe... Is it really that bad for men as opposed to women?

I eat a lot of morningstar/worthington soy meat products (10 times a week probably), since I've been trying to cut down on red meat... I doubt what I'm doing is healthy right (besides the salt overload)?

What can i substitute for Meat/chicken/turkey (the later 2 not being red meat, but I want to cut the amount of cholesterol I take in) that is a healthy substitute?

I already eat eggs, but there aren't many types of fish I'm that interested in eating. I'm not really a fish person. Also besides wraps, what is a good substitute for bread?

WRT your first question - the really short answer is that you have to eat a SHITLOAD of soy before it's going to start messing with your hormone profile.
I have a bunch of male vegan friends who are also lifters - they eat a lot of soy (as part of a balanced diet), lift a lot and they're built. No 'feminising' going on there..

Here's links to the Mayo Clinic about soy that I think you'll find helpful. The issue that people have with soy are estrogen-like effects that it could have on your body. But as it is pointed out r_evoluntionary, don't consume too much and you'll be fine (of course, unless you have either an allergy, or genetic predisposition, or other issue that you shouldn't or can't consumer soy). Always remember to consult a licensed healthcare provider such as a dietician, nurse, or doctor for additional information.

Soy background:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/soy/NS_patient-soy

Soy potential benefits:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/soy/NS_patient-soy/DSECTION=evidence

Soy dosing:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/soy/NS_patient-soy/DSECTION=dosing

Soy precautions/safety:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/soy/NS_patient-soy/DSECTION=safety

Mayo Clinic references for their soy information:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/soy/NS_patient-soy/DSECTION=selected-references

Thanks for the info guys. Any ideas as what I could substitute in place of those proteins?

I'm looking for something that is filling, but not caloric.

It makes me fart.

I eat edamame, tofu and soy every day and last time I checked my dick was still a dick and not a vag so I guess I'm still doing OK.

TheProduct saidI eat edamame, tofu and soy every day and last time I checked my dick was still a dick and not a vag so I guess I'm still doing OK.

Verification needed.

QuadraticEquation saidThanks for the info guys. Any ideas as what I could substitute in place of those proteins?

I'm looking for something that is filling, but not caloric.

I don't know a lot about it, but I hear quinoa is high in protein..?
What about doing creative stuff with nuts, beans and legumes?

r_evolutionary said

QuadraticEquation saidThanks for the info guys. Any ideas as what I could substitute in place of those proteins?

I'm looking for something that is filling, but not caloric.

I don't know a lot about it, but I hear quinoa is high in protein..?
What about doing creative stuff with nuts, beans and legumes?

Quinoa is pretty good.

Beans/legumes are great, I want to stay away from stuff high in fat (even if it's a good kind in moderation) like nuts.

I really enjoy edamame. Some of these completely slipped my mind, thanks for bring them up guys.

QuadraticEquation said

r_evolutionary said

QuadraticEquation saidThanks for the info guys. Any ideas as what I could substitute in place of those proteins?

I'm looking for something that is filling, but not caloric.

I don't know a lot about it, but I hear quinoa is high in protein..?
What about doing creative stuff with nuts, beans and legumes?

Quinoa is pretty good.

Beans/legumes are great, I want to stay away from stuff high in fat (even if it's a good kind in moderation) like nuts.

I really enjoy edamame. Some of these completely slipped my mind, thanks for bring them up guys.

Fat's what keeps you full though. Not sure if you're trying to lose weight, but if you are, don't skip the fats (which you need to be healthy), just skip the saturated fats.

...I've said "fat" way to many times in this post...Fat...

I personally don't like it I think it's texture is unbearable

GuerrillaSodomite saidIt makes me fart.

I drink soy milk 'cause dairy milk makes me fart.

Whey is just a better protein than soy. Chicken is a very good protein, but if you worry about cholesterol levels go with egg whites.

There is no substitute for bread, believe me... i've looked. No cracker, wheat thin, or modified starch will substitute bread. Although there is that Helthy Life whole wheat bread that's only 5 carbs per slice!

Pinny said

TheProduct saidI eat edamame, tofu and soy every day and last time I checked my dick was still a dick and not a vag so I guess I'm still doing OK.

Verification needed.

agreeed

Its best to avoid genetically engineered soy as your body has a hard time differentiating that from estrogen, most countries have laws that require gen mod food to be labled so just keep your eye out.

I heard a rumor that eating too much soymilk and watermelon could made you sterile!!!

Not so sure about this hearsay.

Drink Rice or Almond milk instead

You'll only really overeat on fat if you add salt or sugar. Otherwise it'll be filling (and sometimes gross - a natural block on having too much fat in your food).
Saturated fats and cholesterol in food has been pretty much cleared in the cardiovascular health department. Though factory meats have unnaturally high fat contents because of grain finishing and you might want to avoid that. Cruel to the animal too.

Fish are good for you and game meats are low in fat (if you are trying to get less calories in).

Back to the original question:
If you keep away from processed food you won't get too much soy even with soy milk and tofu. Keep in mind though that soy milk has as much fat as full milk and less protein. BUT I heard an estimate that as much as 70% of processed foods are made from soy. In a frozen pizza you can have soy as a major component of both the bread, the meat, and the cheese. Not really the recipe for a varied diet.

Just a general comment, but I really think anything you eat 10 times a week is bad for you.

Everything in moderation is usually the way to go

Quinoa is only 15% protein, but the protein it does contain is complete. 70% of quinoa's calories come from carbohydrate.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5705/2

X2Qsquare saidI heard a rumor that eating too much soymilk and watermelon could made you sterile!!!

Not so sure about this hearsay.

I wonder what percentage of guys on this site would take that into consideration.

I hear it makes you grow tits and your dick falls off.

you get bitch tits

soy is really bad for men and women, if you are on warfarin sodium (coumadin)

WHEY = good
SOY = bad