Gay Patriot unable to see the connection between faith and gay teen suicide.

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    Oct 04, 2010 7:36 PM GMT
    Is anyone surprised?

    http://www.gaypatriot.net/?comments_popup=30143

    Didn't think so.
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    Oct 04, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
    Frankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.
  • Vaughn

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    Oct 04, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidFrankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.


    lol I know so many of these.
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    Oct 04, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    I want to remind you guys, this is who these people paid to go see.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ann-coulters-top-ten-most-disgusting-comments-at-gay-republicans-homocon/bigotry-watch/2010/09/27/13202

    “Gays are the molecular opposites of blacks”

    “Gay marriage is not a civil right — you’re not black.”

    “I don’t care how many studies Ted Olson produces” about gay couples making good parents, because the ideal is “one mother, one father.”

    “Not only can gays be conservative, you pretty much have to be,” because you are the “highest income demographic,” because “gays are too stylish to work for the federal government,” because radical Muslims want to execute them.

    “Once [scientists] find the gay gene, guess who’s getting aborted?”

    “The equality clause is about just the blacks.”

    [We should] “redirect stimulus funds toward creating a ‘Cabinet-level Department of Accessorizing.’”

    “Liberals are attempting to teach kindergartners about ‘fisting.’”

    Most parents don’t want their children learning about the “homosexual lifestyle” instead of reading and writing.

    “Blacks must be looking at the gays saying, ‘Why can’t we be oppressed like that?’”

    “The truth is…they’re already against gay marriage, they just wont admit it publicly.”
  • creature

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    Oct 04, 2010 11:43 PM GMT
    Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the connection?
  • Delivis

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    Oct 04, 2010 11:47 PM GMT
    creature saidMaybe I'm missing something, but what is the connection?


    The warrants people cite for opposing gay marriage (and justifying other inequities) are predominantly religious.
  • creature

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    Oct 05, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    I understand that. But with respect to gay teen suicide and the cases that involved parents, other authority figures, and peers invoking their religious beliefs, the act of condemnation and severing the love that was previously there is what did them in.

    I'm aware the condemnation is seemingly sourced from The Bible, but when you put yourself in the victim's place. It's not about what is being said to you (the religious context), but what is being done. The religious aspect is just one layer of it, and not the thickest.
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    Oct 05, 2010 12:11 AM GMT
    Lostboy saidFrankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.


    Disagreed. There's more to politics than gay rights. I think politically/Economically, a conservative government is better. People that work hard should be able to enjoy their money... and yes I know there are those exceptions that are corrupt, but the more handouts we give from the rich people to the poor, the more lazy people we are breeding.
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    Oct 05, 2010 3:16 AM GMT
    FLgymguy87 said
    Lostboy saidFrankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.


    Disagreed. There's more to politics than gay rights. I think politically/Economically, a conservative government is better. People that work hard should be able to enjoy their money... and yes I know there are those exceptions that are corrupt, but the more handouts we give from the rich people to the poor, the more lazy people we are breeding.


    Um...rich people get the most hand outs..

    Have you ever heard of the working poor? Thats a huge population that hovers around the poverty line that works hard yet don't have much to show for it.

    Conservatives govern from the bible and distrust science, that is unacceptable.
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    Oct 05, 2010 3:46 AM GMT
    I hate the way this dude calls himself a “patriot”, just bogs down the meaning icon_neutral.gif
  • safety43_mma1...

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    Oct 05, 2010 5:05 AM GMT
    i am a gay man and the republicans want to hold us back. so any gay person that votes republican needs to think about their actions because it is that party that thinks we r not equal so fuck them all.
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    Oct 05, 2010 5:20 AM GMT
    I would think that faith would prevent suicide. If you have faith in God, then there is hope. I don't think faith, religion, conservative, Republican are terms that can all be used interchangeably.



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    Oct 05, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    FLgymguy87 said
    Lostboy saidFrankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.


    Disagreed. There's more to politics than gay rights. I think politically/Economically, a conservative government is better. People that work hard should be able to enjoy their money... and yes I know there are those exceptions that are corrupt, but the more handouts we give from the rich people to the poor, the more lazy people we are breeding.



    Too bad you're clearly unfamilar with the historical record of what's happened in this country over the past 30 years re: the economy.
    The Republican record for handling the economy is abysmal.
    Every recession for the past 30 years has hit on the Republican's watch.
    Reagan tripled the National Debt.
    Bush Jr. quadrupled the National Debt.
    The Republicans spent every bit as much money as the Democrats did when they controlled Congress and had a Republican president from 2001-2007.
    They passed bloated pork barrel budgets with massive yearly budget deficits year after year.
    They passed a prescription drug bill that is 100% unpaid for, and the cost of it just gets larded on to the National Debt.

    "People that work hard should enjoy their money" you say - well, the Dems have only CUT taxes in the last 4 years that they've been in control, and they want to continue those tax cuts for all except the truly rich - who don't need them - so the additional revenue from the higher taxes on the rich can be used to help balance the budget and pay down the National Debt.
    That's fiscally responsible, and good for the health of the economy.

    Even ignoring the gay rights issue - there is absolutely NO reason to vote Republican.
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    Oct 05, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    While it's true that certain religious interpretations can have something to do with the attitude that parents or friends show to gay youth or adults, it's a mistake to just blame faith for teen suicide, especially when it has to do with a number of factors like personal prejudice toward something that just isn't considered "cool" by other people. The two last suicides were more about being made fun of and embarrassed than religious "pressure".

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    Oct 05, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    I don't believe that his personal religion really had anything to do with his suicide; it was more the religion of the kids who teased and tormented him to death, in a manner of speaking. This was the religion they learned from their parents, church leaders, churches, peers, youth pastors, books, and pamphlets.
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    Oct 05, 2010 8:35 PM GMT
    FLgymguy87 said
    Lostboy saidFrankly any gay person who votes Republican without *serious* reservations has a judgement so profoundly compromised that they can hardly be spoken to as a rational adult.


    Disagreed. There's more to politics than gay rights. I think politically/Economically, a conservative government is better. People that work hard should be able to enjoy their money... and yes I know there are those exceptions that are corrupt, but the more handouts we give from the rich people to the poor, the more lazy people we are breeding.


    nice to see a little common sense every now and then.
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    Oct 05, 2010 8:46 PM GMT