Gay Saudi prince 'strangled servant in sexual killing'

  • metta

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    Oct 05, 2010 3:53 PM GMT
    Gay Saudi prince 'strangled servant in sexual killing'

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/10/05/gay-saudi-prince-murdered-servant-in-sexual-killing/
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    Oct 05, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    The Saudi government will claim this "Prince" has diplomatic immunity, and he'll return home without any trial or punishment. End of story.

    And the moral is, don't get involved with anyone influential from the Gulf States. They will always win, you will always lose. That's what is known as diplomacy, not to mention the politics of oil.
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    Oct 05, 2010 8:04 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidAnd the moral is, don't get involved with anyone influential from the Gulf States. They will always win, you will always lose. That's what is known as diplomacy, not to mention the politics of oil.


    Ok, so let's blow up those countries instead. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 05, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    Wow .... what a sick Nutcase that one is icon_neutral.gif

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    The servant had suffered “a series of heavy punches or blows to his head and face“, leaving his left eye closed and swollen, his lips split open and his teeth chipped and broken, prosecutor Jonathan Laidlaw said.

    There also were injuries to his ears and internal bruising and bleeding to the brain, as well as severe injuries to the neck consistent with manual compression, the court was told.

    The prosecution said the victim had deep bruising to the back, a rib fracture and trauma to the stomach caused by heavy punches or kicks

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/saudi-prince-killed-servant-london-court-told/article1743930/
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    Oct 05, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    The trial is ongoing and, if convicted, the accused will be going nowhere, except to jail, for a very long time. Diplomatic immunity will get you off numerous parking tickets and perhaps something more serious, but not a murder rap. The Prince has admitted unlawfully killing the victim, so it is a case of what degree of unlawful killing the jury will decide upon.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidThe trial is ongoing and, if convicted, the accused will be going nowhere, except to jail, for a very long time. Diplomatic immunity will get you off numerous parking tickets and perhaps something more serious, but not a murder rap.


    I heard diplomatic immunity makes you totally immune
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:10 PM GMT
    He might be severely punished if he is proved proved he have sexual relations with the victim, if he went back to Saudi Arabia.
    But I hope he gets punished for the right reason.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:11 PM GMT


    CC video of him beating on the dude in the hotel elevator.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
    amar_m said
    Mil8 saidThe trial is ongoing and, if convicted, the accused will be going nowhere, except to jail, for a very long time. Diplomatic immunity will get you off numerous parking tickets and perhaps something more serious, but not a murder rap.


    I heard diplomatic immunity makes you totally immune


    On second thoughts, I believe you are right. A British police woman was shot dead in the 1980s, apparently by a Libyan diplomat, who was allowed to leave the country under DI. Had the Saudi prince enjoyed DI, however, he could not have been prosecuted in the first place, unless the Saudis waived his DI. I do not think DI can be applied retrospectively. You either have it or you don't. The fact he is being tried for murder means he does not.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:17 PM GMT
    I think I changed my mind on wanting a Prince Charming.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:31 PM GMT
    From the London Times:

    Detectives discovered that the prince’s laptop computer had been used to visit websites of gay escorts and saunas. They also found semi-naked pictures of Mr Abdulaziz on the prince’s mobile telephone and discovered a copy of the 2009 Spartacus International Gay Guide in their hotel room.

    There was one double bed in the suite shared by the men and there were occasions when the two men might have shared it, the court was told.


    It tends to show the hypocrisy of Saudi elite. If you are rich or well connected in Saudi Arabia, you can cross the causeway into Bahrain or fly overseas, get pissed, whore it up or bang gay escorts to your heart's content. Yet the same behaviour by ordinary folk in Saudi Arabia will probably result in their flogging or beheading.
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:33 PM GMT
    Him being a "prince" does not make him a "diplomat." A diplomat is someone who is an official representative of their nation, living in another nation. This Prince was in the UK as a private citizen of KSA. He therefore does not have immunity as such. Saudi may argue to have him extradited back to KSA, but the UK does not have to comply if it doesnt want to.

    There are literally hundreds/thousands of "Princes" in the Al Saud / extended Saudi Royal Family. A lot of them are not truly that rich and not truly that influential at all. Someone in here posted that he might get punished in Saudi Arabia for being gay. I have a feeling that the details of this case would make it a lot more likely for Saudi to 'throw him under the bus' so to speak rather than protect him. In any case, since he is not a prince of notable importance, he probably does not have "immunity" at all.

    Art_Deco, again you levy strong words against an entire group of people without knowing the facts.....
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    Oct 05, 2010 11:34 PM GMT
    Sounds like my gay Saudi ex.
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    Oct 06, 2010 1:07 AM GMT
    But- but the leftist media taught me that Islamic countries and their citizens exemplify kindness.
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    Oct 06, 2010 4:16 AM GMT
    I really don't understand Gulf people. Saudi Gay prince? Since when? I am so lucky my parents are Levantines. lol
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    Mar 21, 2012 8:36 PM GMT
    Any updates on this case?
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    Mar 21, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    I never get choked by royalty, just lesser aristocracy...icon_neutral.gif
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    Mar 21, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    This just in.....

    Art_Deco saidThe Saudi government will claim this "Prince" has diplomatic immunity, and he'll return home without any trial or punishment. End of story.


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    Mar 21, 2012 8:51 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI never get choked by royalty, just lesser aristocracy...icon_neutral.gif


    You're better off.

    There are so many rules and antiquated traditions surrounding Royal Strangulation that it practically takes all the fun out of it.

    Besides nowadays any adopted Viscount wants to give it a try. Nothing worse than being choked by a pretender to the throne.

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    Mar 21, 2012 9:01 PM GMT
    OMG gays and bi's have been knowingly killing each other since the 1980s, and how many of them were to pay for giving another a slow death? Why is the Price being single out. Oh a quick death is worse than a slow one so it seems.
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    Mar 21, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI never get choked by royalty, just lesser aristocracy...icon_neutral.gif


    What a clever condolence.

    I can't find any updates...
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    Mar 21, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
    I believe that he wanted to be tried in the UK since I'm sure under Saudi law he'd face death - not for the murder since they don't place much value on the lives of non-Saudis but for homosexuality.
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    Mar 21, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
    Actually it appears he was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum 20 years served before consideration of parole. Of course the supreme irony is that he could be offered asylum if he gets paroled, since, you know, it's illegal to be gay in Saudi.

    Gay Saudi prince who beat his manservant to death is jailed for life... then we'll probably offer him asylum
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    Mar 21, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
    This is very old
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    Mar 21, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said

    It tends to show the hypocrisy of Saudi elite. If you are rich or well connected in Saudi Arabia, you can cross the causeway into Bahrain or fly overseas, get pissed, whore it up or bang gay escorts to your heart's content. Yet the same behaviour by ordinary folk in Saudi Arabia will probably result in their flogging or beheading.


    That is not Saudi. that is universal.. note the US Republican gay and Vatican pedophile scandals!