I went to Barnes & Noble today...........

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    Oct 06, 2010 1:49 AM GMT
    And while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


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    Leandro ♥
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    Oct 06, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    Yeah, we need more poems around here...

    A fish in a bowl,
    Two nude men in a hot tub,
    Metamorphoses


    Erm, maybe not. icon_wink.gif
  • mcwclewis

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    Oct 06, 2010 2:05 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR said why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?



    I think that is a wonderful idea
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Oct 06, 2010 2:22 AM GMT
    Works by gay authors, such as Armistead Maupin, can be found in other aisles of B&N.

    (btw, Armistead Maupin is GOOD too)
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    Oct 06, 2010 2:32 AM GMT
    The closest bookstore to me is Borders.

    As much as I love Borders, the specific store in my town lacks a good GLBT section (if you can even call it that). Just yesterday, the entire "collection" of three books was moved to the bottom shelf of the case (in the back of the store, might I add).

    I asked a clerk if they had any more books that weren't put on the shelf. She replied with, "where in the store do we have a shelf for those books?"

    ...

    Disappointment at its greatest. icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 06, 2010 2:36 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR saidAnd while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


    Peace ♥ Love ♥ Ya all

    Leandro ♥


    At least you have something related to being Gay, the closest B&N to my house has nothing.. i mean NOTHING related to Gays or Lesbians, it might have some Erotica in the Adult section but it does not have a Gay/Lesbian section. sad if you ask me.
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    Oct 06, 2010 2:36 AM GMT
    Writers like Edmund White, Augusten Burroughs, Christopher Isherwood, Joseph Olshan, James Baldwin, David Sedaris, Josh Kilmer-Purcell, etc are found in the fiction, biography, or humor sections in most book stores today. Books by people like Mapplethorpe or Lachapelle are found in photography. We're not segregated anymore. The gay section today is usually just sexuality.


    A forum section for literature and poetry is a good idea.
  • Chunner

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    Oct 06, 2010 2:42 AM GMT
    Powell's Books in Portland Oregon is a huge bookstore and they have a full aisle dedicated to GLBT literature and yes half is erotica but they have a lot of other gay literature too. The last book I got there a few months ago is called Man in the Middle and its about John Amaechi the NBA player who is gay. Lots of other inspiring gay books too. They have an online site check there.
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    Oct 06, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR saidAnd while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


    Peace ♥ Love ♥ Ya all

    Leandro ♥


    Great choice Leandro..have read it ... very insightful.

    J
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    Oct 06, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR saidAnd while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


    Peace ♥ Love ♥ Ya all

    Leandro ♥

    Did you say anything to B&N mgmt?

    Years ago, Leandro, before RJ went nutzoid. People used to post poems here. But those days are gone. Now we get n00bs who post their intimate personal problems for their first posting.
  • mcwclewis

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:11 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 said
    ALEZANDAR saidAnd while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


    Peace ♥ Love ♥ Ya all

    Leandro ♥

    Did you say anything to B&N mgmt?

    Years ago, Leandro, before RJ went nutzoid. People used to post poems here. But those days are gone. Now we get n00bs who post their intimate personal problems for their first posting.




    I forgot about that! Those were good days.
  • cityguy39

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:14 AM GMT
    We have one of the best independant book stores here in Chicago. Unabridged Books is gay owned and operated, it has one best gay sections for literature that I have ever seen. If they don't have what your looking for, they will find it for you. In the future when you guys visit Chi Town, make Unabridged Books one of your stops when your in boys town.
  • Timbales

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:19 AM GMT
    My sister in law works at a Barnes & Noble. The majority of gay & lesbian fiction is integrated within the regular fiction section. It is the publisher that tells the store what section it wants it's books in.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:20 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidWorks by gay authors, such as Armistead Maupin, can be found in other aisles of B&N.

    (btw, Armistead Maupin is GOOD too)


    Agreed, the Tales of the City series is good stuff, very entertaining!

    I have some other recommendations as well:

    The Kid and The Commitment by Dan Savage
    Naked and Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris
    Insignificant Others by Stephen McCauley
    A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
    God Says No by James Hannaham

    I have a new book, Secret Historian by Justin Spring, but I havent' started it.

    You should check out past Lambda Literary Award winners for a higher quality selection.
  • Tiran

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:44 AM GMT
    Part of the problem is also that there simply aren't as many gay books to put on the shelf anymore. Many of the publishers have closed, and Alyson, one of the oldest and largest has not published anything in almost two years. They are going to an e-book, print on demand format to try and stay alive. I have noticed going to the chapters and amazon sites that there is just not that much new material, and a lot what is out there is going out of print. And, as several people pointed out, many of our authors are no longer ghettoized in a gay section. The gay section is, in my experience, mostly nonfiction now.
  • metta

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    Oct 06, 2010 3:58 AM GMT
    I don't know if there is going to much of a future for large bookstores in the near future, with all of these devices that have been created that people can download them onto, they really don't need that. I have heard that many of the areas of the major bookstore chains have cut down certain areas, such as the photography area.

    Times....theyz a chagin'
  • tmm6497

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    Oct 06, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    I'm so for this. I love reading, and it would be awesome to see if anyone else is currently reading the same book, or ways to discuss a book.
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    Oct 06, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    Thank you so much guys for all of your responses! I did speak to the night store manager, and he was very courteous and interested in my concerns. He gave me the Store manager hours and I will definitely speak to him personally as soon as I can!

    In regards to the new format of e-books devices that are becoming more increasingly popular and widely available; I personally have mixed feelings about reading a book vs having an electronic device at hand? I personally like the feel and flexibility of the traditional paperback book or hardcover book in my hands vs handling and looking at an electronic device to read.


    Leandro ♥
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    Oct 06, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
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    ALEZANDAR saidAnd while browsing through the GBLT section all I saw were books on sex and erotica...mostly anyway!! I was totally turn-off by the lack of inspirational and motivational authors or titles depicting a broader side of gay life.

    I was really disappointed and then thought, what perception others who pass by this LGBT section have of the gay readers? needless to say I walked up to the self help book section and picked up a book titled "The Dark Night of the Soul" by Thomas Moore.

    I am currently attending a college course on Philosophy just for fun, and I am loving it! which brings me to the next question; why doesn't RealJock have a Literature and Poetry Forum?


    Peace ♥ Love ♥ Ya all

    Leandro ♥


    At least you have something related to being Gay, the closest B&N to my house has nothing.. i mean NOTHING related to Gays or Lesbians, it might have some Erotica in the Adult section but it does not have a Gay/Lesbian section. sad if you ask me.


    Just like the politicians near you, there are books there...they're just hidden in the bathroom. ;)
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    Oct 06, 2010 4:41 AM GMT
    Renaud Camus
    Abdellah Taia
    André Gide
    Marcel Proust
    All of the Claudine series
    Jean Genet
    Rachid O.
    Augiéras

    and countless other authors would never be found in the Gay section of a bookstore. What you found is supposed to be there, Gay Erotica is in that section.

    Real literature has already been categorized appropriately in its fiction/non-fiction categories.

    Best
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    Oct 06, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    tjmeany saidI'm so for this. I love reading, and it would be awesome to see if anyone else is currently reading the same book, or ways to discuss a book.


    Yes, it would be awesome if the Administrators of RealJock can create a section for Literature and Poetry on the website! I think it would be an awesome way to interact and feed our minds intellect and share our personal insights while discussing the books we like to read or suggest. I do hope the Administrators considers it!


    Leandro ♥
  • tmm6497

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    Oct 06, 2010 4:48 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR said
    tjmeany saidI'm so for this. I love reading, and it would be awesome to see if anyone else is currently reading the same book, or ways to discuss a book.


    Yes, it would be awesome if the Administrators of RealJock can create a section for Literature and Poetry on the website! I think it would be an awesome way to interact and feed our minds intellect and share our personal insights while discussing the books we like to read or suggest. I do hope the Administrators considers it!


    Leandro ♥


    For real. I always loved English class or any kind of literature class. Always great to see others insight on a book, and make you think about something that may have slipped your mind.
  • mcwclewis

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    Oct 06, 2010 4:50 AM GMT
    Definitely. I would love to have people to discuss literature with, and I think if I posted anything on a nonspecific forum it would disappear in other posts pretty quickly.


    Let's do it up
  • KinesiologyMa...

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    Oct 06, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    Its because the good gay author's stories about gay people are accepted by society and sold in regular areas. They only put the crap over there is that section because those people only write stories about gay sex because it is all the author can focus on.... probably because he isn't getting what he truly wants in bed. There are tons of great gay authors... they just don't write stories that need to be put into the GLBT section, because there about life and life is universal.
  • metta

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    Oct 06, 2010 6:17 AM GMT
    ALEZANDAR said

    In regards to the new format of e-books devices that are becoming more increasingly popular and widely available; I personally have mixed feelings about reading a book vs having an electronic device at hand? I personally like the feel and flexibility of the traditional paperback book or hardcover book in my hands vs handling and looking at an electronic device to read.


    Leandro ♥


    That is exactly what I heard people say about newspapers...look what is happening to those...they are pretty much all estimating that they will be moving to only online.