Ohio Republican likes to play dress up...

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    Oct 10, 2010 4:10 AM GMT
    as a NAZI.

    He must be a big Glenn Beck fan.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-and-the-atlantics-joshua-green-investigate-nazi-reenacting-house-candidate-rich-iott/
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    Oct 10, 2010 4:30 AM GMT
    Wow! That is some video! hahahahahaha
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    Oct 10, 2010 9:11 AM GMT
    There are certain things that prevent a person from getting elected to public office in America.
    I'd say that having a hobby of dressing up as a NAZI and doing reenactments, would be one of them.
    But, we'll see.
    Most Republicans will vote for (and defend) anything with an "R" beside it.
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    Oct 10, 2010 4:08 PM GMT
    So what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.


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    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.


    I just threw up in my mouth a little... icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 10, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.







    Will he be herding you into a ghetto, packing you into a cattle car along with a few hundred other people for a ride to a concentration camp, taking you on forced marches, starving you, subjecting you to forced labor, gassing you, then cremating your emaciated body ?

    Nothin' beats fun !
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    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.




    WOW...thanks for this...explains a lot
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    Oct 10, 2010 8:52 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.




    WOW...thanks for this...explains a lot


    Yeah... I'm not sure how much Mock realized this would tell us about him. Of course, if one of us said we were dressing up as Marx or a Black Panther for Halloween, he'd be pillorying us.
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    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween.

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    Too horrible to even contemplate...

    Except perhaps to inquire, in stunned shock, what kind of costume does a Jew wear, to accompany a WWII German officer? A concentration camp prisoner's rags, with a Star of David sewn onto it? I'm left speechless...
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    Oct 10, 2010 10:50 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list.



    There you have it Folks
    There seems to be no difference from Ralph Fiennes who is an actor
    in a role
    and a grown man who also happens to be in politics serving "supposedly" in the public interest
    who BY HIS OWN ADMISSION admires the Viking Squadron of the SS who slaughtered jews in the Netherlands by the thousands

    Chalk up another hatch mark for republican hypocrisy
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    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.


    I just threw up in my mouth a little... icon_redface.gif




    ROFL!
    Ditto that.
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    Oct 11, 2010 3:04 PM GMT
    lol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.
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    mocktwinkie saidlol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.


    Wow. We're pathetic? You think that a Jew cuddling with an SS member who participated in the mass extermination of 6 million of his brethren is an example of "apparent opposites can love"???
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    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.


    I just threw up in my mouth a little... icon_redface.gif


    This.

    Yikes.
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    mocktwinkie saidlol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.


    Wow. We're pathetic? You think that a Jew cuddling with an SS member who participated in the mass extermination of 6 million of his brethren is an example of "apparent opposites can love"???


    Don't be ridiculous. I said German officer, not an outfit featuring all of the signs and symbols of a nazi or SS officer-- although the "opposite" effect would be implied. You're trying to exaggerate this into some kind of an issue when I happen to love Jewish people - I'm part Jewish. My partner happens to be full German, so I think it would be great. That being said, I'm still brainstorming on ideas...last year's Roman and Egyptian didn't seem very original.
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    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie saidlol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.


    Wow. We're pathetic? You think that a Jew cuddling with an SS member who participated in the mass extermination of 6 million of his brethren is an example of "apparent opposites can love"???


    Don't be ridiculous. I said German officer, not an outfit featuring all of the signs and symbols of a nazi or SS officer-- although the "opposite" effect would be implied. You're trying to exaggerate this into some kind of an issue when I happen to love Jewish people - I'm part Jewish. My partner happens to be full German, so I think it would be great. That being said, I'm still brainstorming on ideas...last year's Roman and Egyptian didn't seem very original.


    Yes. You did say German officer, but in this context it seems distasteful. I'm not overly PC, but I can't see how you unpack this Halloween idea from its history and political themes.
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    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie saidlol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.


    Wow. We're pathetic? You think that a Jew cuddling with an SS member who participated in the mass extermination of 6 million of his brethren is an example of "apparent opposites can love"???


    Don't be ridiculous. I said German officer, not an outfit featuring all of the signs and symbols of a nazi or SS officer-- although the "opposite" effect would be implied. You're trying to exaggerate this into some kind of an issue when I happen to love Jewish people - I'm part Jewish. My partner happens to be full German, so I think it would be great. That being said, I'm still brainstorming on ideas...last year's Roman and Egyptian didn't seem very original.


    Yes. You did say German officer, but in this context it seems distasteful. I'm not overly PC, but I can't see how you unpack this Halloween idea from its history and political themes.


    I did mention that I got the idea from the Israeli/Palestinian representation in Madonna's confessions tour. They are portrayed as being in harmony although they are seeming enemies in real life.
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    Why what Mocktwinkie is proposing is horrifically tasteless:

    While the Holocaust should not be off limits for discussion, debate and even humor---and the latter would be very hard to do---because of its extraordinary nature in history it should not be trivialized.

    Engagement with the Holocaust must empower everyone concerned. It must break stereotypes of Jews, it must educate. It must help all of us understand how genocide as a process exists in humanity, and how it can be prevented. A costume can do none of these. It is immaterial whether you're of Jewish extraction or not; by creating such a trite representation of a Jewish person [and a German] you rob all concerned of their dignity.

    I strongly urge you to think of something better. Sadly you're not alone in contemplating such a dreadful idea: Prince Harry got into tonnes of trouble for doing something similar.
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
    These kinds of re-enactments (just like the civil war ones) are nothing but wankfests for closet racists.
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSo what? Pretty soon you'll be calling Ralph Fiennes a nazi because he was in schindler's list. Do you know how many people like Napoleonic outfits and the whole aura of the time and yet they don't support Napoleon as a historical figure? The German military, separate from nazi ideology, had some incredible advancements as far as weapons and tanks were concerned.

    My partner will probably dress up as a German officer and I'll be a Jew this halloween (I'm like a 4th anyway). It'll be a good way to symbolize that the two can love each other -- sort of like Madonna's Palestinian/Israeli representation in her confessions tour.




    I knew you were a sick and sad excuse of a person...but the way you make excuses for these people is just SAD.

    Also, you're costume idea is interesting in that your nature as an uncle tom truly shows!
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    TigerTim saidWhy what Mocktwinkie is proposing is horrifically tasteless:

    While the Holocaust should not be off limits for discussion, debate and even humor---and the latter would be very hard to do---because of its extraordinary nature in history it should not be trivialized.

    Engagement with the Holocaust must empower everyone concerned. It must break stereotypes of Jews, it must educate. It must help all of us understand how genocide as a process exists in humanity, and how it can be prevented. A costume can do none of these. It is immaterial whether you're of Jewish extraction or not; by creating such a trite representation of a Jewish person [and a German] you rob all concerned of their dignity.

    I strongly urge you to think of something better. Sadly you're not alone in contemplating such a dreadful idea: Prince Harry got into tonnes of trouble for doing something similar.


    He wore a swastika. There's a biiiig difference. It wouldn't be trivializing, it would be imagery portraying something positive, not negative.
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    TigerTim saidWhy what Mocktwinkie is proposing is horrifically tasteless:

    While the Holocaust should not be off limits for discussion, debate and even humor---and the latter would be very hard to do---because of its extraordinary nature in history it should not be trivialized.

    Engagement with the Holocaust must empower everyone concerned. It must break stereotypes of Jews, it must educate. It must help all of us understand how genocide as a process exists in humanity, and how it can be prevented. A costume can do none of these. It is immaterial whether you're of Jewish extraction or not; by creating such a trite representation of a Jewish person [and a German] you rob all concerned of their dignity.

    I strongly urge you to think of something better. Sadly you're not alone in contemplating such a dreadful idea: Prince Harry got into tonnes of trouble for doing something similar.


    He wore a swastika. There's a biiiig difference. It wouldn't be trivializing, it would be imagery portraying something positive, not negative.


    Yea...something positive.."your friends are hunting and killing my people but I am to self centered to care and you are too self centered to fight against them."

    Just like the relationship between gay conservatives and the republican party...
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    TigerTim saidWhy what Mocktwinkie is proposing is horrifically tasteless:

    While the Holocaust should not be off limits for discussion, debate and even humor---and the latter would be very hard to do---because of its extraordinary nature in history it should not be trivialized.

    Engagement with the Holocaust must empower everyone concerned. It must break stereotypes of Jews, it must educate. It must help all of us understand how genocide as a process exists in humanity, and how it can be prevented. A costume can do none of these. It is immaterial whether you're of Jewish extraction or not; by creating such a trite representation of a Jewish person [and a German] you rob all concerned of their dignity.

    I strongly urge you to think of something better. Sadly you're not alone in contemplating such a dreadful idea: Prince Harry got into tonnes of trouble for doing something similar.


    He wore a swastika. There's a biiiig difference. It wouldn't be trivializing, it would be imagery portraying something positive, not negative.


    Yea...something positive.."your friends are hunting and killing my people but I am to self centered to care and you are too self centered to fight against them."

    Just like the relationship between gay conservatives and the republican party...


    I think your "outrage" is ironic considering that republicans are notoriously supportive of Israel -- something that cannot be said of democrats, who almost invariably tend to support the Palestinians. Never figured out why so many Jewish people vote for the party that doesn't like them.
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    mocktwinkie saidlol, you guys are truly too pathetic for words. None of my gay friends, not even the hardcore progressives, would have an issue with any of this. It's not even something we have decided to do, merely an idea to be creative with an "apparent opposites can love" imagery.


    Wow. We're pathetic? You think that a Jew cuddling with an SS member who participated in the mass extermination of 6 million of his brethren is an example of "apparent opposites can love"???


    I´m glad I blocked TwinkleTwat. Not only is it ASTONISHING that anyone would find dressing up as an SS officer and a Jew appropriate for anything other than the most sick SnM fantasy, but thinking that people are pathetic for calling you out... just wow. Really. Your grip on reality has never looked more fragile.
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    Oct 12, 2010 3:38 AM GMT
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    TigerTim saidWhy what Mocktwinkie is proposing is horrifically tasteless:

    While the Holocaust should not be off limits for discussion, debate and even humor---and the latter would be very hard to do---because of its extraordinary nature in history it should not be trivialized.

    Engagement with the Holocaust must empower everyone concerned. It must break stereotypes of Jews, it must educate. It must help all of us understand how genocide as a process exists in humanity, and how it can be prevented. A costume can do none of these. It is immaterial whether you're of Jewish extraction or not; by creating such a trite representation of a Jewish person [and a German] you rob all concerned of their dignity.

    I strongly urge you to think of something better. Sadly you're not alone in contemplating such a dreadful idea: Prince Harry got into tonnes of trouble for doing something similar.


    He wore a swastika. There's a biiiig difference. It wouldn't be trivializing, it would be imagery portraying something positive, not negative.


    Yea...something positive.."your friends are hunting and killing my people but I am to self centered to care and you are too self centered to fight against them."

    Just like the relationship between gay conservatives and the republican party...


    I think your "outrage" is ironic considering that republicans are notoriously supportive of Israel -- something that cannot be said of democrats, who almost invariably tend to support the Palestinians. Never figured out why so many Jewish people vote for the party that doesn't like them.



    The Democratic party "doesn't like" the Jewish people?
    What a stinking pile of total BS.
    Did you hear that BS on Fox?
    Haven't you realized yet that you can't believe most of the crap you hear on that propaganda channel?
    Or did you just make it up yourself?

    You do realize that the only Jewish person to be on a presidential ticket was Joe Lieberman - on the DEMOCRATIC ticket in 2000.