Introducing the 2012 Honda Mediocrity

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    Oct 11, 2010 3:14 PM GMT
    The 2012 Honda Civic caught mostly uncovered.
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    What happened. Am I the only one who feels the tables have turned. The best new products for average buyers are not Toyota or Honda. Ford, Chevy, Hyundai.... when did Honda and Toyota decide to compete over who could make the most bland lineup.

    The competition:
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    Oct 11, 2010 3:18 PM GMT
    yeah, I feel ya, budd. That pic of the 2012 Honda Camry...um, Toyota Civic, er....whatever.....personally, I'd rather have this:
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    Or this:
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
    When did they decide to build boring? They've been doing it for a good 10 years now at least,, but people like em.
    Mazda 3 is a way more appealing small car inside and out.
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
    I've never been a Civic fan, they are way too low to the ground for me.
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    beneful1 saidWhen did they decide to build boring? They've been doing it for a good 10 years now at least,, but people like em.
    Mazda 3 is a way more appealing small car inside and out.
    except when it's in the shop for warranty repairs and recall notices! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    Mazda3 doesn't have the most competitive fuel economy for it's segment but it does look good. Honda is delaying the Civic release for a full year to make last minute changes. Nobody inside the company is talking but the rumor is the fuel economy wasn't going to be good enough to compete with the 40 mpg Cruze, Elantra, and Focus.

    As for ride height my new CR-Z is even lower lol. I've already scrapped it entering driverways icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
    ATC84 saidThe 2012 Honda Civic caught mostly uncovered.
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    What happened. Am I the only one who feels the tables have turned. The best new products for average buyers are not Toyota or Honda. Ford, Chevy, Hyundai.... when did Honda and Toyota decide to compete over who could make the most bland lineup.

    Rather Resembles a 2008 saturn ion!

    it makes my PT Cruiser looke even better than before. icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    rnch saidit makes my PT Cruiser looke even better than before.



    PT Cruiser? Are you a lesbian?




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    Oct 11, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    heartrobb said
    rnch saidit makes my PT Cruiser looke even better than before.



    PT Cruiser? Are you a lesbian?




    hr, are you a str8 hater?


    in this gay-friendly neighborhood, in one of the gayest cities of America, you see lots of pt cruisers and miatas and vw eos' . wonder why.... icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 6:51 PM GMT
    rnch said
    heartrobb said
    rnch saidit makes my PT Cruiser looke even better than before.



    PT Cruiser? Are you a lesbian?




    hr, are you a str8 hater?


    in this gay-friendly neighborhood, in one of the gayest cities of America, you see lots of pt cruisers and miatas and vw eos' . wonder why.... icon_lol.gif


    It's a little joke. Lighten up a little rnch.
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    Oct 11, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    heartrobb said...
    It's a little joke. Lighten up a little rnch.
    as your voice or facial experssions cannot be seen or heard over the internet, most peeps put a smile behind an otherwise ambiguous remark to make their intended point icon_exclaim.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    Am I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    Oct 11, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
    As long as they continue to make the Civic Si series, I don't mind.

    The 2012 Civic photos look ok. The front end matches their current design scheme, found on the Insight and the new Odyssey. But the rear is quite mehh.

    I wish Honda would bring back the Integra and the Prelude. They also need a flagship luxury sports coupe.
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    Oct 11, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    dustin_K_tx saidAm I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    win
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    Oct 11, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
    dustin_K_tx saidAm I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    no, but thank god it doesn't look like that anymore
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    Oct 11, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
    dustin_K_tx saidAm I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    The real car looks a little more appliance like.
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    Cars that will be eating away at Honda/Toyota sales soon:

    2011 Kia Optima
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    2011 Ford Explorer
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    Meanwhile over at Honda......
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    Selling cars off reputation isn't going to last forever. The folks that buy only Toyota's or buy one Camry after another will be a sustainable segment when younger buyers now prefer brands like Kia over Honda in studies.
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    Oct 11, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
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    dustin_K_tx saidAm I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    no, but thank god it doesn't look like that anymore

    Where are the windows? Does it come with periscopes for the passengers to peek out the roof?
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    Oct 11, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
    ATC84 said
    dustin_K_tx saidAm I the only one considering leasing a Volt?
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    The real car looks a little more appliance like.
    2011_chevy_volt_official.jpg

    Cars that will be eating away at Honda/Toyota sales soon:

    2011 Kia Optima
    brandnew-york-kia-optima-turns-up-a-feve

    2011 Ford Explorer
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    Meanwhile over at Honda......
    2011-Honda-Pilot-LX-2WD-5-Spd-AT-11.jpg

    Selling cars off reputation isn't going to last forever. The folks that buy only Toyota's or buy one Camry after another will be a sustainable segment when younger buyers now prefer brands like Kia over Honda in studies.


    I had a Kia Soul for a week as a rental. I liked it, but some of the interior felt incredibly cheap, especially the center armrest/console.
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    Oct 11, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
    Timberoo said
    I had a Kia Soul for a week as a rental. I liked it, but some of the interior felt incredibly cheap, especially the center armrest/console.


    I had a Soul rental as well. Cheap true, but a still pretty good for the price (well what it would have cost if I had bought one)

    Google the 2011 Kia Optima interior and you won't say the word cheap anymore icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
    xrichx saidAs long as they continue to make the Civic Si series, I don't mind.

    The 2012 Civic photos look ok. The front end matches their current design scheme, found on the Insight and the new Odyssey. But the rear is quite mehh.

    I wish Honda would bring back the Integra and the Prelude. They also need a flagship luxury sports coupe.


    bah, you beat me to it.

    there is a great quality to anonymous looking cars, they age very well.

    i miss several now extinct models : the celica, supra, integra, prelude .
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    Oct 12, 2010 12:53 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidAs long as they continue to make the Civic Si series, I don't mind.

    The 2012 Civic photos look ok. The front end matches their current design scheme, found on the Insight and the new Odyssey. But the rear is quite mehh.

    I wish Honda would bring back the Integra and the Prelude. They also need a flagship luxury sports coupe.

    bah, you beat me to it.
    there is a great quality to anonymous looking cars, they age very well.
    i miss several now extinct models : the celica, supra, integra, prelude .

    I think I posted this somewhere else. But this was such an awesome comparison. Old school beats new school.
    1998 Integra Type-R versus 2010 Civic Si
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    Oct 12, 2010 12:57 AM GMT
    I've always been a big Honda fan since my first car—an '85 Prelude. I agree they've gotten a bit too conservative. I love my Civic though, which looks sportier than this new one. Let's hope Honda gets their groove back.
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    Oct 12, 2010 4:14 AM GMT
    My first car was a Honda Civic (and my second as well). But, that was about 10-15 years ago. They've lost their styling AND performance since then. I wanted to consider them when I just bought a car, but they had no options for me.

    Is it just me or do most cars on the road look the same now?

    Bring sexy back to the car industry!!!
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    Oct 12, 2010 4:25 AM GMT
    the ass end of that civic looks like they chopped the back off a nissan sentra.

    I am a loyal Ford buyer and so is the rest of my family. I have no complaints with my Ranger whatsoever and ive had it over a year and a half. My payments keep up with the trucks depreciation so if I sold it, I would owe no money afterwards. The only things I'm sad about revovle around the loss of small body on frame SUV's. The Explorer is no longer a truck, or a 4x4, or even RWD biased. icon_sad.gif I'm sure if they tossed their new engines into their entire lineup, fuel economy wud rise scross the board while maintaining previous capability. But of course, everyone is moving in the same direction, and I'm a die hard purist I guess. But I digress... I won't buy a Honda or Toyota. They offer nothing that appeals to me whatsoever. Styling, fuel economy, 4x4 capability, price and reliability are not tops for either brand. The only Toyota I might consider would be an FJ Cruiser, though the options packages are confusing and rather rigid so even then, the money I could save by purchasing a Jeep and then tailoring it to my wants would be a much better investment.
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    Oct 12, 2010 4:33 AM GMT
    rnch said
    beneful1 saidWhen did they decide to build boring? They've been doing it for a good 10 years now at least,, but people like em.
    Mazda 3 is a way more appealing small car inside and out.
    except when it's in the shop for warranty repairs and recall notices! icon_rolleyes.gif


    Dont be ignorant (which I realize is a challenge for someone from NO); toyota has become a synonym for recall notice and honda has dwindled greatly and has plenty of quality issues. Meanwhile, the Mz3 quietly goes about its business reliably, and anything but boring, unlike the corrivic.