Tea Party-backed candidate in anti-gay tirade

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    Oct 11, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
    The Tea Party-backed Republican candidate for Governor of New York has provoked anger with a speech saying that being gay is a failed and unacceptable life choice.

    "That's not how God created us," Carl Paladino told Orthodox Jewish leaders, "and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."
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    London Times 11 Oct 10


    How ironic. Didn't the Nazis believe being Jewish was 'a failed and unacceptable life choice'?

    And speaking of Nazis:

    US Republican candidate Rich Iott in Nazi uniform row
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11511574


    Tea Party activists fund sign linking Obama to Hitler
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us+canadQ-10636746

    Give these Republicans their due. They do represent the full spectrum of bigotry.
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    Oct 11, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidGive these Republicans their due. They do represent the full spectrum of bigotry.

    In regards to the billboard author:
    North Iowa Tea Party - an anti-government movement that chose to use a state name as part of their organization. There's no irony there folks...

    I can't give them credit for anything; they're just idiots. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 11, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Mil8 said
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    Thanks for posting this again. It's pretty much right on target in illustrating the similarities the three of them have in their desire to control the citizenry.


    I hope this is a joke and you are not being serious. If not, please elaborate on why you think they are similar.
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    Oct 11, 2010 11:23 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said
    southbeach1500 said
    Mil8 said
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    Thanks for posting this again. It's pretty much right on target in illustrating the similarities the three of them have in their desire to control the citizenry.


    I hope this is a joke and you are not being serious. If not, please elaborate on why you think they are similar.


    He just said it to piss you off. Obviously Obama isn't that bad. Even Bush wasn't that bad.
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    Oct 11, 2010 11:38 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    He just said it to piss you off. Obviously Obama isn't that bad. Even Bush wasn't that bad.


    Nope.

    Each had/has a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their respective citizenry.


    This is ridiculous. Putting aside healthcare, which is arguable at best, you cannot point to one other way in which Obama has "a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their citizenry."

    If you do, please elaborate.
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    Oct 12, 2010 12:07 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    He just said it to piss you off. Obviously Obama isn't that bad. Even Bush wasn't that bad.


    Nope.

    Each had/has a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their respective citizenry.


    Hmmmm ....... Each had/has a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their respective citizenry
    Where have I heard that one before ?

    Republicans want you to have ALL the freedom in the world

    .................................................. EXCEPT when you wanna curtail an
    unwanted pregnancy

    ................................................... when your kid wants to learn about Darwinian evolution

    .................................................... when you want to go abroad and but cheaper drugs

    ..................................................... when you want stem cell research

    and .............................. when you're a freakin' MO and you wanna join the army icon_confused.gif
    and who's the one closer to a Fascist regime ?
    Do you even LISTEN to yourself sometimes??????
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    Oct 12, 2010 4:04 AM GMT
    SB, get help.

    It's obvious you suffer from an extreme case of self-loathing. And frankly, I doubt you have a boyfriend/partner. Instead, I think you're certifiably delusional.

    Again, get help.

    It'll be the best gift you could ever give yourself...and the rest of those who must endure your unpleasant self.
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    Oct 12, 2010 10:54 AM GMT
    GQjock said
    southbeach1500 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    He just said it to piss you off. Obviously Obama isn't that bad. Even Bush wasn't that bad.


    Nope.

    Each had/has a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their respective citizenry.


    Hmmmm ....... Each had/has a similar idea of the role of government in controlling their respective citizenry
    Where have I heard that one before ?

    Republicans want you to have ALL the freedom in the world

    .................................................. EXCEPT when you wanna curtail an
    unwanted pregnancy

    ................................................... when your kid wants to learn about Darwinian evolution

    .................................................... when you want to go abroad and but cheaper drugs

    ..................................................... when you want stem cell research

    and .............................. when you're a freakin' MO and you wanna join the army icon_confused.gif
    and who's the one closer to a Fascist regime ?

    Do you even LISTEN to yourself sometimes??????


    This
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    Oct 12, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    While i do not feel he speaks for everyone who is involved in any Tea Party organizaion (because you know there is not just one but many!), the guy is a straight up bigot and hopefully should lose the election.
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    Oct 16, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    Jesus...

    {facepalm}
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    Oct 16, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Mil8 said
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    Thanks for posting this again. It's pretty much right on target in illustrating the similarities the three of them have in their desire to control the citizenry.


    Also just like how the liberals of Germany where to help put Mr Hitler into power with the hollow promise of advancement. The American gay democrat also helped put Obama in power with the hope of advancement, and now they bitch that he has done nothing, or is moving way to slow. yet they helped put him in power.

    Can we know tell them: "we told you so!" For doing so, we where bullied and attack for not supporting Obama, even called names like racists. Just as the brown shirts would threaten, bully, and even attacked anyone if they protested or spoke out publicly against Mr Hitler.

    So does that now make them racists for complaining and bitching about Obama not giving them the advancement, that they voted him in for?
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    Oct 17, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    Mil8 said
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    Thanks for posting this again. It's pretty much right on target in illustrating the similarities the three of them have in their desire to control the citizenry.


    Also just like how the liberals of Germany where to help put Mr Hitler into power with the hollow promise of advancement. The American gay democrat also helped put Obama in power with the hope of advancement, and now they bitch that he has done nothing, or is moving way to slow. yet they helped put him in power.

    Can we know tell them: "we told you so!" For doing so, we where bullied and attack for not supporting Obama, even called names like racists. Just as the brown shirts would threaten, bully, and even attacked anyone if they protested or spoke out publicly against Mr Hitler.

    So does that now make them racists for complaining and bitching about Obama not giving them the advancement, that they voted him in for?


    Hitler used physical violence in advancing his political objectives and recruited party members who were willing to do the same. To make any comparison between Obama and Hitler is repugnant, on any number of levels.
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    Oct 17, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidHitler used physical violence in advancing his political objectives and recruited party members who were willing to do the same. To make any comparison between Obama and Hitler is repugnant, on any number of levels.

    Agree. But on RJ in one thread that I am aware of, to make a point against the tea party groups, a photo of actual concentration camp victims was used. I was the only one who complained in the thread, and everyone else thought it was ok. It seems there is greater tolerance on RJ if liberals do something tasteless.
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    Oct 17, 2010 3:08 PM GMT
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    Mil8 saidHitler used physical violence in advancing his political objectives and recruited party members who were willing to do the same. To make any comparison between Obama and Hitler is repugnant, on any number of levels.

    Agree. But on RJ in one thread that I am aware of, to make a point against the tea party groups, a photo of actual concentration camp victims was used. I was the only one who complained in the thread, and everyone else thought it was ok. It seems there is greater tolerance on RJ if liberals do something tasteless.


    You're committing a logical fallacy in assuming the lack of expression of disapproval constitutes approval.

    I didn't see that thread [or post?] so I didn't comment on it, but let me state that I regard any trivialization of the Holocaust and its victims as bad regard regardless of the source.

    As to systematic bias; I think the political discussions on this Forum are a joke. We have the endless stream of reposts from news organizations on the one hand and the tirades of Southbeach/AuntyJack, etc on the other. People rapidly retreat into their entrenched positions, and citations from the Daily Mail are deemed appropriate sources of truth.

    In this context, I don't think one could say that the forum is biased in one direction or the other. The vast majority of political posts on here are terrible!
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    Oct 17, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
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    Mil8 saidHitler used physical violence in advancing his political objectives and recruited party members who were willing to do the same. To make any comparison between Obama and Hitler is repugnant, on any number of levels.

    Agree. But on RJ in one thread that I am aware of, to make a point against the tea party groups, a photo of actual concentration camp victims was used. I was the only one who complained in the thread, and everyone else thought it was ok. It seems there is greater tolerance on RJ if liberals do something tasteless.


    You're committing a logical fallacy in assuming the lack of expression of disapproval constitutes approval.

    I didn't see that thread [or post?] so I didn't comment on it, but let me state that I regard any trivialization of the Holocaust and its victims as bad regard regardless of the source.

    As to systematic bias; I think the political discussions on this Forum are a joke. We have the endless stream of reposts from news organizations on the one hand and the tirades of Southbeach/AuntyJack, etc on the other. People rapidly retreat into their entrenched positions, and citations from the Daily Mail are deemed appropriate sources of truth.

    In this context, I don't think one could say that the forum is biased in one direction or the other. The vast majority of political posts on here are terrible!

    Agree with your points. There was one criticism of my criticism that I did not mention. I do agree that lack of disapproving does not constitute approval so what I wrote was not accurate. In the case of trivializing anything related to the Holocaust, even if silence does not indicate approval, it also does not discourage the practice. There can be an assumption of a tacit approval or indifference that I found as offensive.
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    Oct 17, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/opinion/17rich.html?ref=opinion
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    TigerTim saidAs to systematic bias; I think the political discussions on this Forum are a joke. We have the endless stream of reposts from news organizations on the one hand and the tirades of Southbeach/AuntyJack, etc on the other. People rapidly retreat into their entrenched positions, and citations from the Daily Mail are deemed appropriate sources of truth.

    In this context, I don't think one could say that the forum is biased in one direction or the other. The vast majority of political posts on here are terrible!


    It ought to go without saying, but this is a fitness and health social networking site, not the Oxford Union. While the standard of debate may be somewhat feral and occasionally tedious, it is generally spirited and often sincere. Most importantly, those debating tend to drawn from their own experiences, rather than from a bookish view of life. (And I have yet to see anyone here quoting from the Daily Mail or any of the other unreliable 'news' sources.)
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    Oct 18, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
    At first when I read the news article about Carl Paladino making these horrible, anti-gay statements, I was very pissed off and ready to switch my vote for NY Governor to another candidate. However the following day, Paladino apologized and admitted the horribly chosen words. At first, I was somewhat skepticle but later on I realized that the guy admitted a major screw up so I will now back Carl Paladino again because I don't believe in holding grudges against anyone because none of us are perfect.
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    roadbikeRob saidAt first when I read the news article about Carl Paladino making these horrible, anti-gay statements, I was very pissed off and ready to switch my vote for NY Governor to another candidate. However the following day, Paladino apologized and admitted the horribly chosen words. At first, I was somewhat skepticle but later on I realized that the guy admitted a major screw up so I will now back Carl Paladino again because I don't believe in holding grudges against anyone because none of us are perfect.


    The guy basically tried to court the Hasidic vote, by stating gay people were an inferior form of humanity. I think he was only sorry that his views were so widely reported beyond the meeting. Each to his own, but I think you are very forgiving.