Anti-Gay Protest & Pride Parade In Belgrade

  • metta

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    Oct 15, 2010 9:06 AM GMT
    Anti-Gay Protest In Belgrade

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    A Bloody Sunday
    Riot police detain a man during an anti-gay protest in Belgrade, Serbia. Riot police clashed with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march.

    http://www.time.com/time/picturesoftheweek/0,29409,2025612_2199938,00.html#ixzz12PsYsNxo




    Serb police clash with anti-gay rioters

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/serb-police-clash-with-antigay-rioters-20101010-16dab.html


    In Wake Of Riots, Belgrade On Edge Ahead Of Clinton Visit
    http://www.rferl.org/content/In_Wake_Of_Riots_Belgrade_On_Edge_Ahead_Of_Clinton_Visit/2187419.html


  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 10:48 AM GMT
    Belgrade is my home town, but there are lot of assholes , so called str8 guys, football fans or criminals, which is the one thing they really are. Now, they are strong ONLY when in group of other bullies or shitheads, but alone they would never try to do something, cause they are pussies. What they did on Sunday is that they demolished the city, and not a single gay person was hurt or killed. All these photos of blood and violence are truth, but police ( with right this time ) beat those shitheads. They will get sentences for at least 8 years in prison ( says Serbian police minister ), and all of them are going to be ass fucked.
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    Oct 15, 2010 12:54 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Anti-Gay Protest In Belgrade

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    A Bloody Sunday
    Riot police detain a man during an anti-gay protest in Belgrade, Serbia. Riot police clashed with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march.

    Nothing much has happend and that picture you haw there is not real the police would never let a blody guy just lay there in his blood we are not barbarians and whay do you start this topic when there is one alrady

    And police did not have the green light to use all the measures in thear power to put the riots down bicouse all the demostrators are kids and the our police has a ban to use rubber bullets.
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    Oct 15, 2010 12:57 PM GMT
    Vladimir01 said[quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Anti-Gay Protest In Belgrade

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    A Bloody Sunday
    Riot police detain a man during an anti-gay protest in Belgrade, Serbia. Riot police clashed with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march.

    Nothing much has happend and that picture you haw there is not real the police would never let a blody guy just lay there in his blood we are not barbarians and whay do you start this topic when there is one alrady



    Владимире, не сери мајке ти. Сем тога, енглески ти је врло лош
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
    Vladimir01 saidDaj bre bednice kada si zadnji put bio ovde a ta slika nepostoji nemoj da se pravis lud.


    Ne postoji se pise odvojeno, nepismena budalo!

  • Oct 15, 2010 3:11 PM GMT
    Ama mir bre ljudi! svi smo isti ovde!
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 3:14 PM GMT
    rhincodon_typus saidAma mir bre ljudi! svi smo isti ovde!


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    antonomad said
    Vladimir01 said[quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Anti-Gay Protest In Belgrade

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    A Bloody Sunday
    Riot police detain a man during an anti-gay protest in Belgrade, Serbia. Riot police clashed with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march.

    Nothing much has happend and that picture you haw there is not real the police would never let a blody guy just lay there in his blood we are not barbarians and whay do you start this topic when there is one alrady



    Владимире, не сери мајке ти. Сем тога, енглески ти је врло лош

    Be nice to Vladimir. We can understand his english fine. icon_biggrin.gif
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    antonomad said
    Vladimir01 said[quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Anti-Gay Protest In Belgrade

    potw_08.jpg


    A Bloody Sunday
    Riot police detain a man during an anti-gay protest in Belgrade, Serbia. Riot police clashed with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march.

    Nothing much has happend and that picture you haw there is not real the police would never let a blody guy just lay there in his blood we are not barbarians and whay do you start this topic when there is one alrady



    Владимире, не сери мајке ти. Сем тога, енглески ти је врло лош

    Be nice to Vladimir. We can understand his english fine. icon_biggrin.gif


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    Oct 15, 2010 4:15 PM GMT
    What's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.
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    Tazo995 saidWhat's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.




    You will not get in the EU if you make Pride parade and show it off as a success you know theat you are a smart guy.
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
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    Tazo995 saidWhat's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.


    Dude, F@#*K you! What the fuck do u know? Have you ever been bombed by Clinton administration? No? So shut the fuck up! icon_evil.gif
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    Tazo995 saidWhat's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.




    You will not get in the EU if you make Pride parade and show it off as a success you know theat you are a smart guy.


    Huh?? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

    Countries that have legislative discrimination towards gay people (stopping short of gay marriage) are not eligible to join the EU.

    Governments of the new and wannabe EU countries (for example Lithuania) push through anti-discrimination laws to be able to submit their bid for EU membership.

    Then after the next elections, the countries show their true face again and propose discriminatory laws (Lithuania).

    It shows how the attitudes differ between Western europe and the former communist space, where the entire 1960s cultural and sexual revolution never took place.
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    Tazo995 saidWhat's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.


    Dude, F@#*K you! What the fuck do u know? Have you ever been bombed by Clinton administration? No? So shut the fuck up! icon_evil.gif


    What the fuck is your problem?

    I wasn't bombed by US forces because my country had a war mongering genocide committing war criminal as a president cause I'm not from that country.

    I was however bombed by Russian forces when they invaded my country and amputated about a fifth of its territory, so yes I am familiar with war and the horror it brings.

    However, I still don't understand what your problem is. Serbia has been wanting to join the EU for years, and it's the last ex-Yugoslavian country to get its shit together and reach eligibility for admission to the EU. If I'm wrong and the current Serbian government does not want to join the EU correct me.

    So get that sand out of your vagina.
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 7:59 PM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    Vladimir01 said
    Tazo995 saidWhat's the big deal? At least it's not Russia, where the police would side with the anti-gay protesters.

    Obviously they don't *really* care, but they're just so desperate to be finally admitted to the EU.




    You will not get in the EU if you make Pride parade and show it off as a success you know theat you are a smart guy.


    Huh?? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

    Countries that have legislative discrimination towards gay people (stopping short of gay marriage) are not eligible to join the EU.

    Governments of the new and wannabe EU countries (for example Lithuania) push through anti-discrimination laws to be able to submit their bid for EU membership.

    Then after the next elections, the countries show their true face again and propose discriminatory laws (Lithuania).

    It shows how the attitudes differ between Western europe and the former communist space, where the entire 1960s cultural and sexual revolution never took place.


    Dude, you are shallow as spoon,and u know nothing...No offense, but u live in US too fucking long....Have u ever been to Serbia? No? That is what I figured....So stop talking bullshit
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    Oct 15, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    No sorry, I live in Canada.

    And I really don't understand what your problem is.... You're just shouting some profanities and insults, what am I supposed to do with that?

    I guess you're just a moron with an inferiority complex.... got denied a Schengen visa? icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 15, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
    Tazo995 saidNo sorry, I live in Canada.

    And I really don't understand what your problem is.... You're just shouting some profanities and insults, what am I supposed to do with that?

    I guess you're just a moron with an inferiority complex.... got denied a Schengen visa? icon_lol.gif


    Dude, i travel around the world,been everywhere,seen everything..Inferiority complex? ROFL ! I can speak 8 languages, including English and Chinese,,,,How about u? Stupid ignorant assholeicon_evil.gif
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    Tazo995 saidNo sorry, I live in Canada.

    And I really don't understand what your problem is.... You're just shouting some profanities and insults, what am I supposed to do with that?

    I guess you're just a moron with an inferiority complex.... got denied a Schengen visa? icon_lol.gif


    Dude, i travel around the world,been everywhere,seen everything..Inferiority complex? ROFL ! I can speak 8 languages, including English and Chinese,,,,How about u? Stupid ignorant assholeicon_evil.gif
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    You've traveled around the world
    You speak 8 languages
    You've seen "everything"

    And still you're just an asshole.

    I'm gonna stop replying after this btw, you're obviously not interested in any actual discussion and just want to troll.

    Shame actually, because this happening in Belgrade right now is really interesting, and it points out the changes that are occurring in Eastern European societies in multiple countries. It shows how much there is yet to gain in conservative countries, especially those that generally follow Eastern Orthodox religion.

    I'm also not gonna sum up what countries I've been to or what languages I speak, cause if I do you'll just say that I'm making shit up or so.

    In one of the languages I speak, there's a saying: "ჩემი ყლე არის შენი ოჯახის კოვზი". It means "my dick is your family's spoon". I found it to be very appropriate for this icon_razz.gif
  • alphatop

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    Oct 15, 2010 8:18 PM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    antonomad said
    Tazo995 saidNo sorry, I live in Canada.

    And I really don't understand what your problem is.... You're just shouting some profanities and insults, what am I supposed to do with that?

    I guess you're just a moron with an inferiority complex.... got denied a Schengen visa? icon_lol.gif


    Dude, i travel around the world,been everywhere,seen everything..Inferiority complex? ROFL ! I can speak 8 languages, including English and Chinese,,,,How about u? Stupid ignorant assholeicon_evil.gif
    Traveled across Europe, Asia and Sout Americaicon_smile.gif



    You've traveled around the world
    You speak 8 languages
    You've seen "everything"

    And still you're just an asshole.

    I'm gonna stop replying after this btw, you're obviously not interested in any actual discussion and just want to troll.

    Shame actually, because this happening in Belgrade right now is really interesting, and it points out the changes that are occurring in Eastern European societies in multiple countries. It shows how much there is yet to gain in conservative countries, especially those that generally follow Eastern Orthodox religion.

    I'm also not gonna sum up what countries I've been to or what languages I speak, cause if I do you'll just say that I'm making shit up or so.

    In one of the languages I speak, there's a saying: "ჩემი ყლე არის შენი ოჯახის კოვზი". It means "my dick is your family's spoon". I found it to be very appropriate for this icon_razz.gif



    Mwahahahahahahahahahahaahah.....ahahahahahhaaha....rofl...lol.....ahahahahahahahahahah...stupid as hell...mwahahahahaahaha,,,,,ahahahahahah....u make me sick with ur ignorace, asshole....mwahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahha........aghahahahahaahahahahahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahaahahahahahahhaahhahahaahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahhhahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaah....
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    Oct 15, 2010 8:22 PM GMT
    And this really isn't necessary either:

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    Maybe it's alcohol poisoning? You're just like a Russian I guess. Now fuck off before I report you.

    You're giving a great impression of your country as well btw, shame for cool guys like Vladimir posting above here.
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    Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM GMT
    I probably should not get in the middle of this. I have friends in Eastern Europe and think you both can bring perspective to many discussions that most US residents, Canadians, Aussies, etc. don't have. I think what happened in this thread is you both made some comments, the context not clear, and offense was taken by both of you, and things went downhill very quickly. My guess is if you were discussing the issues face to face and immediately cleared up misunderstandings, you would be in agreement on many things. OK kiss and make up. icon_biggrin.gif
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    socalfitness saidI probably should not get in the middle of this. I have friends in Eastern Europe and think you both can bring perspective to many discussions that most US residents, Canadians, Aussies, etc. don't have. I think what happened in this thread is you both made some comments, the context not clear, and offense was taken by both of you, and things went downhill very quickly. My guess is if you were discussing the issues face to face and immediately cleared up misunderstandings, you would be in agreement on many things. OK kiss and make up. icon_biggrin.gif



    Nothing to get in the middle of, there was no real discussion anyway.

    But now that you replied maybe somebody can just give their... opinion? Something to discuss, you know.

  • Oct 16, 2010 3:09 AM GMT
    Well, I am the third serbian in this thread (half spanish half serbian actually), so I will also post something:

    The Balkans are (in general) quite homophobic. Greece has made some advances on that field because of the "money loaded" tourists that have been coming for decades and whom the greek wouldn't dare to judge (naturism, different way of life, openly gay behaviour, and so on...), same reason why the spanish society became more open (and now it is way ahead in recognizing LGBT issues), but in general the society throughout the balkans is very homophobic.

    On the other hand, Serbia is a country that has been bombed and sanctioned and even had a part of the country taken away (Kosovo), and they could do very little to defend themselves. A bombed country is like a raped woman. You are being destroyed and you can't defend yourself. Some people in Serbia have developed the "wifebeater complex" so to speak, meaning that someone that is being abused by higher powers, takes on the next weak being available -> a man that is being mishandled at job, laughed at by his "friends" and so on will take on the defenceless being available, namely his wife, and beat or abuse her. Given the fact that Serbia has been so heavily damaged, some groups of ultranationalists are having outbursts of violence where they can afford them, like in soccer matches (it has become very violent indeed, maybe some of you have seen what happened in Genova) and of course, against LGBT people.

    I am, however, optimistic. For one, the government is making some progress towards LGBT recognition and rights, even if it is just to save the face in front of the European Union. Also, the society is changing very rapidly. The values of the people are changing also, because what yesterday was blue, today is red and tomorrow will be green. I also think that this makes people living in this region very interesting and plastic indeed. Spain had one of the most represive regimes not so long ago, under Franco. My aunt tells us how she wasn't even able to hold her boyfriend's hand in a public place (let alone kiss him), and today gay people can be married. There is a sexual revolution going on right now in China, and the new generations are so open towards sexuality in comparison with the older ones, that now the not-understanding between them is quite common place there. Therefore, I suspect that not too long from now, Serbia may well become a haven in the balkans for LGBT people... but I may be wrong...
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    Oct 16, 2010 3:38 AM GMT
    rhincodon_typus saidWell, I am the third serbian in this thread (half spanish half serbian actually), so I will also post something:

    The Balkans are (in general) quite homophobic. Greece has made some advances on that field because of the "money loaded" tourists that have been coming for decades and whom the greek wouldn't dare to judge (naturism, different way of life, openly gay behaviour, and so on...), same reason why the spanish society became more open (and now it is way ahead in recognizing LGBT issues), but in general the society throughout the balkans is very homophobic.

    On the other hand, Serbia is a country that has been bombed and sanctioned and even had a part of the country taken away (Kosovo), and they could do very little to defend themselves. A bombed country is like a raped woman. You are being destroyed and you can't defend yourself. Some people in Serbia have developed the "wifebeater complex" so to speak, meaning that someone that is being abused by higher powers, takes on the next weak being available -> a man that is being mishandled at job, laughed at by his "friends" and so on will take on the defenceless being available, namely his wife, and beat or abuse her. Given the fact that Serbia has been so heavily damaged, some groups of ultranationalists are having outbursts of violence where they can afford them, like in soccer matches (it has become very violent indeed, maybe some of you have seen what happened in Genova) and of course, against LGBT people.

    I am, however, optimistic. For one, the government is making some progress towards LGBT recognition and rights, even if it is just to save the face in front of the European Union. Also, the society is changing very rapidly. The values of the people are changing also, because what yesterday was blue, today is red and tomorrow will be green. I also think that this makes people living in this region very interesting and plastic indeed. Spain had one of the most represive regimes not so long ago, under Franco. My aunt tells us how she wasn't even able to hold her boyfriend's hand in a public place (let alone kiss him), and today gay people can be married. There is a sexual revolution going on right now in China, and the new generations are so open towards sexuality in comparison with the older ones, that now the not-understanding between them is quite common place there. Therefore, I suspect that not too long from now, Serbia may well become a haven in the balkans for LGBT people... but I may be wrong...


    Thanks for you perspective, I agree. Only I have to add something- I used to live in Serbia and ex-Yu countries for 3 decades ( born in Belgrade , Serbian and ex-Yu capital ), and I lived under Milosevic regime, and I KNOW how it is to be beaten,tortured and humiliated only because I think differently ( in a political way ). If u know what happened only 10-15 years ago, than u know that Resistance ( OTPOR ) was formed by the ordinary people, not politicians, mostly students, but later many people joined so that we can get rid of that asshole Milosevic ( I am not glad that he died before he was sentenced in Hague, I'd rather seen him in prison for very long time ). And yes, on October 5th 2000 WE WON after long and fucked up period of time. I am not saying that only Milosevic is quilty for what happened, but also ex-Croatian president Tudjman, ex-Bosnian president Izetbegovic ( all dead meat now ),as well as EU, USA and NATO.
    After that glorious day for Serbians and other citizen of Serbia ( Croats, Muslims, Hungarians, Gypsies, Romanians, Montenegrians, Macedonians...) first DEMOCRATIC government was elected after WW II. Zoran Djindjic became PM, and he was the leader of all the protests during 90's and leader of DEMOCRATIC PARTY ( not to be confused with Democratic Party of Serbia,lead by Kostunica, who became president instead of Milosevic,who went to Hague ). Only 3 years later, Djindjic was assasinated by criminals and war dogs who were trying to revive Milosevic regime, cause that worked for them. They were affraid of free Serbia, free Europe with no borders. Those bastards are sending bad picture of Serbia in the world by doing such things as in Genova or on that anti-gay whatever in Belgrade.
    So, to make a point- when somebody like Vladimir1, who is 21 years old, btw, tells me that I am ignorant asshole, I can only say grow up dude, u were born when all this shit started ( early 90s ), so wtf do u know? I was in OTPOR, and I shared my part with Serbian citizens who were beaten and imprisoned, and I also shared my part for making Serbia democratic country. But, obviously, things there change very fucking slowly, and I don't have life span like elephant or turtle. That is why I left Serbia in 2006 and went to China, and now I am enjoying my life, politics free. I don't even vote any more nor do I care about news from Serbia. I did my part, now its up to Vladimir1 and younger ganerations to do their part of job. PERIOD.
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    This video needs to be posted in response to those obnoxious threads that some idiot invariably makes every other month along the lines of "why do we need pride parades?"