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    Oct 17, 2010 4:28 AM GMT
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:34 AM GMT
    This makes me smile. Totally ordering Tshirt now
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    While this is fun and clever, and judging by what I'm seeing on Facebook and the like, it certainly has struck a chord with the straight people that are solidly behind same sex marriage rights, I just don't think it will over the hearts and minds of those that are opposed to same sex marriage. icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 17, 2010 5:05 AM GMT
    Bought 3 shirts!

    The guy at 1:38 sold me. icon_twisted.gif
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    Oct 17, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
    FCK YA!
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    Oct 17, 2010 8:50 AM GMT
    I need some volunteers to make a parody of this ad. It will be called...


    FCKME
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    Oct 17, 2010 9:19 AM GMT
    And so.. I shall be walking into a wal-mart normally filled with a lot of anti-gay marriage hill billies and hopefully I shall make it out a live or make it on the news to be the first one killed wearing said shirt. icon_biggrin.gif

    Go Love!
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    Oct 17, 2010 1:58 PM GMT
    IM SO GETTING A SHIRT
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    Oct 17, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
    too bad they dont make an Army ACU Pattern one!
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    Oct 17, 2010 2:01 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidBought 3 shirts!

    The guy at 1:38 sold me. icon_twisted.gif


    Dumbo?
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    Oct 17, 2010 2:10 PM GMT
    Jamezy saidAnd so.. I shall be walking into a wal-mart normally filled with a lot of anti-gay marriage hill billies and hopefully I shall make it out a live or make it on the news to be the first one killed wearing said shirt. icon_biggrin.gif

    Go Love!
    I dare you to wear it to Sunday Services at a Southern Baptist Church. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 17, 2010 2:15 PM GMT
    reppaT said
    GAMRican saidBought 3 shirts!

    The guy at 1:38 sold me. icon_twisted.gif


    Dumbo?


    NOT NICE!

    Looking forward to my shirt!
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    The video made me smile and I agree, get over it BUT....

    Does this 'in your face' approach really work anymore? If someone in a conservative mid west or southern community sees this will it change their attitude or just reinforce their stereotypical view of gays being 'fck'd up'?

    I think this is effective in getting those of us who feel this way on board but not sure it will do much for creating a positive image for acceptance from those who are on the fence. Thoughts?
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
    Clever idea that, unfortunately, will only likely appeal to those who already support gay rights. An approach like this that offends those who don't is not going to change minds. We need to be more savvy in our approach to winning over the closed-minded. The "in your face" approach is neither smart or effective. If anything, it actually may do more harm than good.
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidClever idea that, unfortunately, will only likely appeal to those who already support gay rights. An approach like this that offends those who don't is not going to change minds. We need to be more savvy in our approach to winning over the closed-minded. The "in your face" approach is neither smart or effective. If anything, it actually may do more harm than good.


    But, the in-your-face approach has been working so well for the past 30+ years, why stop now?
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    Like!!!
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:50 PM GMT
    Animus said
    CuriousJockAZ saidClever idea that, unfortunately, will only likely appeal to those who already support gay rights. An approach like this that offends those who don't is not going to change minds. We need to be more savvy in our approach to winning over the closed-minded. The "in your face" approach is neither smart or effective. If anything, it actually may do more harm than good.


    But, the in-your-face approach has been working so well for the past 30+ years, why stop now?



    Has it?
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    Oct 17, 2010 4:50 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidI need some volunteers to make a parody of this ad. It will be called...


    FCKME


    count me inicon_evil.gif
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    Oct 17, 2010 5:00 PM GMT
    Awesome.
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    Oct 17, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
    bah, they're not giving them away, so not interested.
    i want gay swag .
    but i did learn how to take off a tshirt real fast.
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    Oct 17, 2010 5:28 PM GMT
    i think this is great! sometimes, you just gotta let off some steam...it's good to be diplomatic most of the times, but sometimes, you just gotta say, hey guess what, i don't f*ing agree, so up yours! i'd rather be honest...because sometimes, some people won't get it no matter how nice you are.
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    Oct 17, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Animus said
    CuriousJockAZ saidClever idea that, unfortunately, will only likely appeal to those who already support gay rights. An approach like this that offends those who don't is not going to change minds. We need to be more savvy in our approach to winning over the closed-minded. The "in your face" approach is neither smart or effective. If anything, it actually may do more harm than good.


    But, the in-your-face approach has been working so well for the past 30+ years, why stop now?



    Has it?


    Oh, and calm, incontrovertible, conservative forms of protests have "righted" many "wrongs" throughout history?

    **Perhaps gays should take the advice of Mormons and go knocking door to door asking to speak with people about homosexuality? Perhaps gays should seek an audience with anti-gay republican and religious leaders?

    Besides, the religious right is completely rational and logical in their arguments/views--gays should have absolutely no problem altering their positions using the same type of logic, and reasoning skills as the Right. **

    Look, the only harm the "in your face" approach has done is to embolden the opinions of anti-gay folk. I could give a shit about them--the opinion's of those on the radical right will diminish only from a traumatic event (e.g. close family member comes out), or, more common I suppose, their death. You will not see waves of anti-gay folks changing their minds no matter what methods of persuasion are used.

    The "in your face" approach is aimed at persuading those in the middle--this has been true of nearly all social movements (though the "in your face" approach to the Civil Rights Era is significantly different from the "in your face" gay right movement). These days, one’s message will not get noticed if it is calmly whispered on a busy street—one need signs, protests, marches, petitions, rallies, and demonstrations.

    There are times when the “in your face” method does not work well at all though… like at the dinner table trying to convince a friend, family member, neighbor, or stranger why they should support gay rights. After Maine lost the marriage equality battle last election, the gay rights leaders in Maine challenged everyone to sit down with someone who voted against gay marriage and talk to them about the issue in a rational manner.

    One-on one conversations do help a lot, but we should not remove “in your face” tactics from the equation of gay rights
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    Oct 18, 2010 11:17 PM GMT
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    Animus said
    CuriousJockAZ saidClever idea that, unfortunately, will only likely appeal to those who already support gay rights. An approach like this that offends those who don't is not going to change minds. We need to be more savvy in our approach to winning over the closed-minded. The "in your face" approach is neither smart or effective. If anything, it actually may do more harm than good.


    But, the in-your-face approach has been working so well for the past 30+ years, why stop now?



    Has it?


    I was being sarcastic.
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    Oct 18, 2010 11:46 PM GMT
    It's a little more confrontational that would fly on the street here but I agree with the sentiment. I just wish they hit sooner so that people could have them for this wear pink/purple business on Wednesday.
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    Oct 19, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
    Being nice to the GOP doesn't work so I love this "In Your Face" approach.